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Why it actually makes sense to be angry over Bethesda's lawsuit.
king kong five | 11:29 AM on 09.12.2009 9 comments


From the comments regarding Bethesda's lawsuit against Interplay...

Monster w21 Faces at 09/12/2009 02:38
You people are woefully deluded if you think Bethesda is the bad guy in this situation.
They bought the Fallout IP. Fallout is theirs and theirs alone. They paid over 5 millions dollars for it.
If you bought a loaf of bread from a guy for 5 millions dollars and he broke into your house at night, stole half the slices and then tried to sell them off to someone else you'd probably seek legal action aswell.
Interplay isn't some poor defenceless independant developer. They're a long established developer/publisher who destroyed their business through bad choices and sat on the Fallout IP for 10 years.
Grow the fuck up.

Ganjookie at 09/12/2009 03:31
@Monster w21 Faces your analogy is fucked up.
Its as if a man made 3 loaves of bread. HE sold the recipe to somebody and then after the new guy made some good bread and sold it to more people over a larger area, the original man tried to sell his bread again, and the new guy tried to fuck him in the ass, because he bought the recipe.

Actually, you're both wrong. It's as if Man A made some loaves of bread which all sold badly, so he went on to sell different recipes. Then another man, Man B, who was famous for his pies, asked Man A to buy his failed bread recipe. Then, in the weeks leading up to Man B's first batch of Man A's bread, Man B did a bunch of interviews with prominent baking magazines and websites about how much respect he has for Man A's fantastic, severely underrated bread. Then, when it's finally on sale, it turns out Man B made some changes to the bread recipe in order to make it taste more like his famous pie. Still, he's selling it as Man A's recipe, and Man A, who sees that people are becoming interested in his bread for the first time, decides to start selling his bread again, and then Man B comes and sues him.

Lengthy and silly analogies aside, I do think that Bethesda's alleged attitude towards Interplay and the Fallout series up till now is what's pissing a lot of people off. Activision may be an evil publisher, but it has no delusions about that fact, and it doesn't go to great lengths to try and hide it. Tim Schafer fans may have been angry when Activision sued EA over Brutal Legend, but at least no one was saying "this is going against everything that Activision has claimed to be about." Bethesda, on the other hand, kept repeating this mantra in the months and weeks leading up to Fallout's 3 release, about how much respect they have for the series and how much love they have for the series, and how they were trying their best to really bring that Fallout magic into Fallout 3. They failed miserably, of course, but many Fallout fans, including myself, really believed from their interviews and press that they had tried their best, and that's all anyone can really ask for. I personally had quite a lot of fun with Fallout 3, though II never logged as many hours into it as I did into either of the first two games, and I had fun DESPITE the changes Bethesda had made, not BECAUSE of them.

I won't presume to speak for all Fallout fans on this matter, but I will say that for myself, personally, this is about more than the lawsuit. This is about a claim that Bethesda has made time and time again, about how they're huge fans of the original Fallout games, about how passionate they are for the series, about how much they want gamers to experience this lost gem, and a lawsuit like this just proves how much of a lie that was. A true Fallout fan would be excited to see the first games selling again like they have been, and Bethesda trying to shut this down the way they are proves, to me at least, that they're more in this for the money than they are for the passion. They don't want gamers to experience the magic of the Fallout games, they want gamers to experience the magic of THEIR Fallout game.



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king kong five's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/12/2009 12:00
king kong five
Uhh, forgot to add this at the end, but just insert a generic "tell me how you see this whole thing" sentence at the end, and tell me how you see this whole thing!
Kraid's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/12/2009 12:11
Kraid
Well the way I see it is that I see this whole thing as a whole and it needs solving so this whole thing in terms of legal action is as a whole a pretty ridiculous , I mean this whole thing is just a big thing with holes in it.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/12/2009 12:19
Chris Carter
It's simply a matter of who owns the property: if Bethesda just "let it happen", everyone else could just sell their property to another entity, get away with trying to make money off something they no longer own.

It's a dick move, but Bethesda is in the right.

This isn't a case of Square-Enix trying to silence a non-profit ROM hack, where you could very easily get angry over it: this is another reputable company that is trying to make a profit.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/12/2009 12:19
Chris Carter
and get away with*
king kong five's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/12/2009 12:50
king kong five
@Magnalon
Bethesda does have every legal right to sue over this, and I hope my post didn't imply that I don't think it does. And if Bethesda is ONLY in it to make money, then yeah, they should go for it, but they shouldn't feed us this bullshit about how ~*~passionate~*~ they are about the Fallout games. I guess that's the main point I'm trying to get across: that Bethesda wants to pull dick corporate moves like Activision and still be cheered on as one of "the good guys" like Valve.
Timmeh's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/12/2009 13:48
Timmeh
I'd like to see whether if Betherda win they will take over publishing of the Fallout games. More likely they'll just banish them to a black whole in an effort to make people forget anything existed before their attempt.

They probably just saw it in the top sellers list on Steam or GOG or something and thought "Oh boy, free money. Let's take it guys". Bankrupting Interplay rather than go through some long and tedious process to get the MMO rights back doesn't sound far off either.
Arkhon's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/12/2009 13:53
Arkhon
You forgot that Man A agreed not to sell his bread without running it by Man B first, then decided to package his bread in a transparent attempt to get people to buy it, thinking they would get A's bread and B's bread.

Of course, if you're going to get that technical about it, I don't really see the need for an analogy in the first place.
king kong five's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/12/2009 15:43
king kong five
@Arkhon
The kind of people who go out to buy Fallout 3 and the kind of people who mistake one game box for another don't really overlap... at all, really. This isn't a game that little Timmy's mom is going out on her lonesome to buy for his PlayBox 64. The argument that Interplay was hoping to confuse gamers with its recent re-releases of the first three Fallout games is pretty weak.
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