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Revisited Gems - Langrisser Series
killias2 | 8:10 PM on 07.11.2011 12 comments


I don't know. I'm considering doing a series on great games that are generally overlooked. I decided that, if I'm going to start anywhere, I'll start with the Langrisser series.

Revisited Gem #1 - Langrisser Series
For - Fans of Strategy/Tactical RPGs, Tactical games in general. Especially Fire Emblem, Shining Force, and Advance Wars
Not for - Anyone who hates tactical RPGs or tactical games

So what is this Langrisser series? Langrisser started as a little known strategy RPG for the Genesis. Although the first one was later released in the States as Warsong (which a few of you might know), there have been no further attempts to bring any of the games in this series Westward, which is a real shame.
Basically, Langrisser is something of a hybrid between games like Advance Wars and Military Madness and games like Shining Force and Fire Emblem. You begin a scenario, move and attack with units, use special abilities, and try to defeat the enemy. The game is based on a square grid, and units can be attacked from four directions directly adjacent to their location. In latter games, ranged combat is also possible from further away. Finally, the game is based, to some extent, on a rock/paper/scissors-esque structure. Infantry beats pikemen, which beat cavalry, which beat infantry. In the original, archers fill the role of pikemen, but, in later games, they are a sort of weak ranged element that add a new strategic layer. There are also units that are better/worse on water, units that can fly, long-range units (ballistae in later installments), and plenty of others.



In terms of HP and basic setup, Langrisser is actually more like Advance Wars/Military Madness than its RPG brethren. Each unit has 10 hitpoints, and units' ability to inflict damage is based on attack/defense values and a variety of modifiers, such as terrain, abilities, unit type(s), etc. Most of this should be fairly familiar especially to fans of Military Madness and Advance Wars. The picture above shows the scene that plays when two units engage in a fight. Look familiar, Advance Wars/Military Madness fans? Additionally, some of the more RPG...ish elements from Shining Force/etc. are gone. You can't go to towns. You can't talk to people. The story (especially for the earlier games in the series) is more or less linear.

However, Langrisser also shares elements with its RPG brethren. For example, your generals gain experience by defeating enemies. After gaining 10 levels, they can develop into a new class, which is selected via a branching class system. Although you should generally stick to more traditional routes, this gives you some flexibility to try out new classes and strategies. You can make healers into mages, mages into knights, and knights into flyers, etc. etc. You can always find new weapons on the battlefield or from victories, and you can be new weapons and items at menu-based shops that you can access between levels. Even though you don't have towns to visit, these shops do add some interesting stuff to an otherwise boring game. Overall, the level progression system, with its class elements, and the item system do make the game feel significantly more like an RPG (and add to the sense of progress). Certain classes also have access to spells, which tend to act more like spells a la FF Tactics/Shining Force than abilities in Advance Wars.

The story is also virtually ripped from the.. textblocks of the standard RPGs of its era. Especially with the first few installments, the story is a basic medieval setting where "evil wants MacGuffin, and you save the day." However, the presentation tends to be generally good, and the story has a way of growing on you even with all of its trite nonsense. Especially in latter installments, the story begins to open up a little bit and explore the motivations of the characters. Langrisser II/Der Langrisser, in particular, shows the primary villains in a positive light. In Der Langrisser, you can even join the villains, either to support evil, to further your own goals, or to actually do the right thing (!).

However, none of the above really gets at what makes Langrisser special. Thus far, it would probably seem like the game is pretty typical for its genre. However, what makes the game different is that, well, there are two different kinds of units: generals and mercenaries. Generals are your character units: these are the guys that can gain levels, wear equipment, and change classes. They also are the ones with special abilities and storylines. Mercenaries are hired to work for your generals. Generals can only hire certain mercenaries based on their strengths. For example, a Knight can hire cavalry but not pikemen. Lords can hire pikemen, but not crusaders. Priests can hire crusaders, but neither cavalry nor pikemen. Also, depending on the general, they can only hire a set -number- of mercenaries. This is partially driven by class, but it can also depend on other progression elements as well. In other words, a weaker commander might only be able to hire 3 units, while a stronger might hire 5-6.

Once you're actually in the battle, these units stick to your general. If you use some sort of autocontrol (which, trust me, will save plenty of wasted time), they will automatically move with and protect your general with certain formations. More importantly, if they are in their general's zone of influence, they will gain the specific bonus that general yields to his or her units. Again, both the size of this zone of influence and the size of the bonus are based on the specific general and the specific class. Weaker generals will barely impact their mercs, while stronger generals will have a larger impact over a sizable area. Additionally, this effect is split into an attack and a defensive bonus. This means that certain commanders will do better on the offensive, while others will do better at holding ground. Additionally, if a commander is killed, all of his or her mercs disappear. These elements add a whole new level to the tactics, as you need to maintain formation, keep your units together, and take advantage of splits in the enemy force.



However, more importantly, this all serves to make the battles feel FAR larger than in other games in the genre, as well as genuinely allow for control over territory. When you have a line of pikemen blocking a pass from a cavalry charge, it's actually a -full- line of men. Behind this line you can have healers, wizards, archers, and artillery all hammering the enemy forces and maintaining your defensive formation. It all feels very satisfying, and I honestly can't go back and play other SRPG's after enjoying the Langrisser games.

Overall, next to FF Tactics, the Langrisser series is probably my favorite series of Tactical RPGs. I hope that, somehow, we see some return to its style of gameplay, as the license is largely dead and buried.

Officially translated games: Langrisser I aka Warsong for Sega Genesis
Unofficially translated games: Langrisser I for PC, Langrisser II for Sega Genesis, Der Langrisser for Super Nintendo, Crest of Gaia (sort of related, but very different game) for PC-Engine

Most highly recommended: Langrisser I for either Genesis or PC, Langrisser II for Genesis, Der Langrisser for SNES. Largely avoid Langrisser III, as it's more of a Dragon Force ripoff. Langrisser IV is currently being translated, so watch for it.

Differences
Langrisser I for Genesis - No ranged units, overall less polished
Langrisser I for PC/Langrisser II - Ranged units introduced
Der Langrisser - Branching storylines, with lots of very different ways to approach the story

More information: http://elsallia.com/ - Mostly dead but some people on the forum. There is just a wealth of info. on that site regardless.



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TrevHead's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/12/2011 04:44
TrevHead
Warsong is one of my favorite games of all timne

IIRC Warsong was the first SRPG to make it to the west. FYI although it was a US publisher they also sold the same version in the UK (Shame modern US publishers dont do the same).

They were rare in the UK, as the only copy I ever saw was the one in my local rental shop which I rented more then 20 times before buying the same copy. I was gutted when it was stolen a year later.

Its a shame the rest of the series never got localised which is the same for many of Masaya's games. The company had a fantastic artist and sound producer working for them. Check out Growlanser and Gynoug / Wings of war to see just how much they excelled at visuals and sound.
TrevHead's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/12/2011 04:47
TrevHead
Just a tip for anybody who is playing these games, the challenge isnt so much to win the battle which any SRPG vet can do easy, its in gaining asmuch exp for your characters so they can level up to new classes.
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/12/2011 08:57
killias2
Yeah, very true man. Although, there are certainly a few very difficult scenarios in the series.
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/12/2011 09:54
killias2
As a sidenote, have you tried Langrisser II, Der Langrisser, or Langrisser for PC? All are available in English.. unofficially. They're all also fantastic.

If you're a big fan of Warsong, you really ought to try out Langrisser for PC. It is the same story and set of scenarios, but they added a bunch of tweaks and stuff they made for Langrisser 2 and rebalanced everything. It honestly feels like a new game; some sort of hybrid between Langrisser and Langrisser II.
TrevHead's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/12/2011 14:46
TrevHead
I havnt played the PC versions which I plan on doing after your recommendation.

BTW did you read that Siliconera article that was posted over the weekend? If not i wont spoil it for you go and take a look :)
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/12/2011 16:19
killias2
Warning: It's sort of a pain in the ass to get it working. You can make it significantly easier by installing VirtualBox and VirtualBoxing XP. Regardless, you can get the english stuff, the game itself, and instructions at http://elsallia.com/.

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/07/09/monkeypaw-looking-into-langrisser-games-as-psone-imports/ - OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/12/2011 16:28
killias2
Man, it was worth this (shitty) attempt at a blog just to find this out....
TrevHead's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/12/2011 19:55
TrevHead
Your article isnt that bad, but yeah thats good news I hope it works out, Although i would of prefered the saturn originals but beggers cantr be choosers.

Im someone who although loves Langrisser hasnt played too many JRPGs / SRPGs which other series of SRPGs is worth checking out thats similar to the 16bit era Langrissers?

I havnt played advance wars yet but i plan on doing so when i buy a 2nd hand DS
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/12/2011 23:44
killias2
Honestly, there's not a lot out there. I mean, there are games like Shining Force, Fire Emblem, Military Madness, and Advance Wars (and its many cousins), but none of those quite captures it. There is Bahamut Lagoon for SNES, but, still, quite different. Tactics Ogre and FF Tactics are both great in their own way, but neither are really anything like Langrisser. The General+Mercs setup, the progression system, and the class system all came together in a great way. I can't think of another game that really recaptured that synergy.
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/12/2011 23:59
killias2
http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/details.php?id=3532 - This is supposed to be a lot like it, but it's only in German.

Master of Monsters and Dark Wizard are good.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_Warriors - Crystal Warriors for Game Gear is supposed to be similar

There's others too. Just nothing quite like Langrisser.

Honestly, part of me really wants to like assemble a team and just do a Langrisser clone.
Dhaos's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/02/2011 15:34
Dhaos
I love warsong, had no idea it was called something else or that there was more of them. I mistakenly click on your name(dam phone) and saw this. U sir have made my week. Ty
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/20/2012 15:18
killias2
I'm glad to have helped. Go forth and play Langrisser sequels.

Langrisser IV, for the PSX, has also been translated, by the by.
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