"Since the Playstation 3 was first launched people have been complaining they can't do the same things as you can on the xbox 360 with regards to online friends list, cross game communication and chat and the ability to play your own music in games. As time has went on the call has changed from we want to be able to chat to friends online, or we want to play our own music in game, to we want in game XMB.
Now why is this a bad thing to ask for? In game XMB isn't want we need you see and asking for it may harm the playstation 3 in the long run. Lets look at the Xbox 360 here and identify exactly what it does. You would be forgiven for thinking that the Xbox 360 has in game dashboard, it doesn't. When you press the centre Xbox button a little half screen menu pops up, on this menu is your gamertag, it shows you your gamerscore, and online status, which when pressed allows you to change personal info, below this the ability to send messages, see your friend list, and players met. Below that the voice chat and messenger section which allows voice and text chat with people on your friends list. Below this personal setting which allows tweaks to online status themes controller settings etc. Finally there is the music controller which allows access to music stored on the hard drive. Now these options are very powerful, and they allow great functionality, like the ability to chat to a friend while they play another game, and then when you are ready to jump into a multiplayer game together all without ever losing the voice chat. It's quite good and you can see that the playstation 3 suffers from the lack of it.
Now to the point, this menu, shall we call it the minidash, isn't the xbox 360 dashboard, i can't browse the marketplace, see the inside xbox news pages, see my demo and xbox live arcade game collection, browse my achievements list, look at pictures. watch video stored on the hard drive, or change some of the more important settings on the system blade. To put it bluntly the xbox360 has a dashboard with everything and a minidash with just the features you are likely to need while playing a game.
If we ask Sony blindly for in game XMB we run the risk of creating a rod for our own back, we might end up getting what we ask for, the ability to get to the XMB in it's entirety from within a game. The system overheads that this might entail for 512mb of ram might not be to our advantage in the long run.
We need to be specific, we need to say we want messaging and friends list access in game, we want to have voice chat in game and the ability to play music in game. Those really are the only options we need. On the Playstation 3 when you press the playstation button on the controller in game a menu much like the xbox's pops up, it has options to shut down controller and the system at present, all that is needed is for this to be expanded slightly.
Please see that asking for full in game XMB access is only going to hurt the playstation 3 in the long run."
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I was actually taking you seriously until the overheating part.
where?
You raise a good point that what we want and what Sony thinks we want could end up being two entirely seperate things. I normally like to think that common sense will be used and the in game XMB will only have what we need to do in it, like the ability to message friends and maybe resync bluetooth headsets. However, this is Sony we're talking about so who knows what we'll get and when.
Oh, I meant the overhead part.
Around that area, anyway.
While I can give you serious kudos on nodding towards Paine's Common Sense with the "rod for our backs" line, the idea is that the in-game XMB would simply allow for more function and less grumbling about things such as having to drop completely out of a game to read messages, and relying on games themselves to allow for in-game invites.
I think that in-game XMB can only lead to more functionality, and along with the free aspect of PSN, can only mean that it becomes more attractive to those looking to choose one system.
I agree, full XMB would be kind of pointless, but give us the things we need.
I really need to be able to reset my headset when it drops out while launching a game, I hate having to leave a game just to reset the headset and launch it all over again. I want full in game XMB, I don't care if I cant shop PS store, or browse the web, or even listen to music for that matter (stereos are amazing) I want to be able to see everything, at least, not use it all.
If the decision makers at Sony are really that stupid then fuck them. Let them dig their own grave.
Also, you can check your achievements for games in the "mini-dash".
=)
Now that is some serious Copy Paste..perhaps you could of inserted something of your own the next time you post. The Link is right here which is useless since every word up on your post is his.
But I digress, this dude is making some wild assumptions on things that he doesn't have a clue about? Is he a programmer??,Does he knows intimitly the inner workings of our console?? Or is he throwing up something out the top of his head??
Let's take a look at his bio:
37 years old, married to a lovely lady, one eight year old son, work in a surgical high dependency unit. Have written two full length novels, however, I am too scared to edit them and get them sent to a publisher for fear of rejection. So i am currently writing my third and shoving the other two in a drawer, instead of getting them out there, where they could make me money.
Ok..that's all I needed to know.
They should at least match the 360's offerings. In-game Messaging that isn't through the game itself? Custom Soundtracks (Super Stardust is the first)?
Also, they need to fucking release Home. I'm not anticipating it, but it's a FEATURE, not a GAME.
@Y0j1mb0
yes, i citied it at the bottom of the post.
No need to worry about this. Burnout Paradise, the Home beta and a few other games have in game XMB already and it's just the friends list. It's more like a function call though since you get to it through the pause menu on the games and not the PS button.
I doubt there's going to be an update that adds full in game XMB since the firmware can already handle it, they'll probably just patch existing games.
Lol, he's worried about assumptions that Sony would never even consider! Running the entire front end in the background so that when you press a button it pops right back up? Having something so processor and memory intensive running while you play games? That's so stupid that no-one in their right minds would program something like that.
Well, actually, I suppose there's Windows.....
Lol, he's worried about assumptions that Sony would never even consider! Running the entire front end in the background so that when you press a button it pops right back up? Having something so processor and memory intensive running while you play games? That's so stupid that no-one in their right minds would program something like that.
Well, actually, I suppose there's Windows.....