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Why don't you play fighting games anymore gamers?
gregweb | 2:13 PM on 02.17.2008 38 comments


So, I have recently begun to hate my roommates solely for the fact that they refuse to play any games other than Marvel vs. Capcom 2 on Dreamcast. In my efforts to convince them that there are OTHER games out there, I brought up all the games they should play, giving me a total sense of nostalgia. I used to be seriously obsessed about fighting games on the Dreamcast, and Soul Calibur and MvC2 were like my gateway drugs. I tried to convince them to switch to Mark of the Wolves, Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, Plasma Sword, Third Strike (SF3), or Last Blade, but they will have none of it. This got me to thinking, why have fighting games fallen so far out of favor for modern gamers? Is it because they have become too competitive and tournament-obsessed?



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PANZERDRAKO's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 14:22
PANZERDRAKO
i don´t play mvc2 anymore...
i hate when they just use cable y his beam...

i believed "mash-up button" gamer were dead....i guess not
Murder64's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 14:25
Murder64
I enjoy Soul Calibur, and Mortal Kombat, but the majority of fighting games bore me.
Sindicate's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 14:27
Sindicate
Power Stone FTW!
MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 14:27
MrSadistic
I suck balls at fighting games. That's my reason plain and simple. I do however still play the ocassion game of MvC 2 or SF III on mah Dreamcast.
gregweb's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 14:27
gregweb
Yeah, my roommates ALWAYS use Cable and spam his gun and Viper Beam, fucking annoying.

Yeah, reaprar, I'd have to agree with everything you said, but why arent there lots of fighting games coming out? On the other hand, when I think about it, gamers get Guilty Gear, SF, DoA, Tekken, and Soul Caliburs now, so maybe its just the quality of fighting games isn't what I remember it being...
Milofo's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 14:34
Milofo
Its the ease of getting into the game. MvC2 is probably one of the easiest fighting games out there to get into since you have so many familiar characters with the same button command to do their moves. If you want them to get into a different fighting game then you're probably gonna have to go with another easy to pick up fighter like the Smash Bros series.
PANZERDRAKO's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 14:42
PANZERDRAKO
i am no so good in fight game, but always enjoy playing sf alpha3..
EightBitMav's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 14:43
EightBitMav
I love fighting games: Dead or alive, Soul Calibur, Street Fighter, King of Fighters, etc. etc.

People still play them. I'm not exactly a 'pro' at any of the fighters I play (I'm pretty good at DoA 4 though), but I think the whole competitive level of fighters turns a lot of people off.
PANZERDRAKO's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 14:43
PANZERDRAKO
and samurai spirits (showdown)

(sorry el double post)
ZenGaijin's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 14:44
ZenGaijin
I still play Street Fighter 3: 3rd Strike which in my opinion is the perfect 2D fighter.
PANZERDRAKO's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 14:51
PANZERDRAKO
i just don´t like when they abuse of parring in sf3
007's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 14:52
007
because... I LIKE TURTLES!
BahamutZero's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 14:52
BahamutZero
M v C 2 is for button mashing. Capcom vs. snk 2 is better
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 14:58
mix
I used to play Mortal Kombat 2 on the SNES like a disease. I mastered all the moves including Johny Cages 3 head uppercut and I stumbled upon that move. I also liked Virtua Fighter at the arcades.

Then they just stopped being as fun, DOA was my 1st disappointment. I;m just not into them as much anymore as they get boring pretty fast, nothing to keep me going.
tsunamikitsune's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 15:24
tsunamikitsune
I LOVE YOUR ICON. :D
MissHinasaki's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 15:26
MissHinasaki
I love my fighting games but no one else does so I play them by myself. I'm such a loser...
Sadie G's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 15:35
Sadie G
Um brawl?
plus i'm still playing them, i play eternal champions and street fighter on VC.
BS3 Owner's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 15:36
BS3 Owner
The ONLY Fighting games they come out with anymore are ALL in Arcades.
( Exception : DefJam. )

I'm happy to own a PS3 for this sole reason!
( Sony gets more of the Genuine Fight Titles. )

@ least Sony gets them first too.
PANZERDRAKO's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 15:43
PANZERDRAKO
well sadie g
if it is for that , let´s set apart...

2D fighter
3D fighter
*ssbb, power stone kind (i dunno how to call it)
and me against the neighborhood
jdub28's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 15:45
jdub28
I played the new Mortal Kombats and Soul Calibur but i was never really a fan of tekken and doa. and i agree that emulation pretty much killed my fighting game jones, but that will end when ssfthd and IV come out
notdryad's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 15:47
notdryad
Because Arcades are dead.
WDot's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 16:19
WDot
I love fighting games, but I think the problem is that people think they're too complicated. Smash bros is successful because there's no memorization and only a handful of advanced techniques that you don't NEED to memorize. Plus, games that have cheap last bosses that are impossible to kill destroy any hope of unlocking stuff. Also, remember Tekken 3? Each character had like, 15 moves. Remember Tekken 5? Each character had 300. Many were just small variations of others, and some I couldn't even tell the difference.

Seriously, I'd love for a new solid fighting game that was pick up and play like Smash bros but depended on moves more than items and crap. Just to get people interested in it again. But right now, many fighting games are NOT simple to get into, and their popularity reflects that.
youkilledmyguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 16:30
youkilledmyguy
I've never taken the time, nor had the interest in memorizing a series of complex controller movements to do moves. The only fighting games I've gotten into are ones where it was mainly about a few standardized attacks used against an opponents openings... like Karate Champ.
Puppy Licks's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 16:31
Puppy Licks
@ notdryad:
Yeah arcades are dead, hopefully with the new breed of fighters coming out this year (SFIV, SFII HD, Tekken 6, SoulCalubur 4, KoFXII, BlazBlue... my there are actually a few arent there.) playing online may breathe the fighting genre.

God I love fighting games, was raised on them. I even tracked down a copy of Third Strike to play until SFII HD and SFIV comes out :)
PsychoSoldier's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 16:32
PsychoSoldier
I am a huge fighting game fan,I love the King Of Fighters series but it's really hard to find people to play with. The only person I really played with was my friend Sal, he would kill me with Iori.
Kyousuke Nanbu's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 16:39
Kyousuke Nanbu
Because they irritate me, its all about tiers and frames and all this other crap that kills the fun of it.

It doesn't help that most fighting games turn into "find the cheapest attack, exploit it" and final bosses are ALWAYS overpowered nightmares and possess skills not other fighter has, turning everything you've learned across the difficulties into blind stupid luck.

In Tekken 5, Jinpachi would demolish you if you fought normally, if you exploited a certain move that every fighter had, 2 perfects in a row.

In Soul Calibur III the A.I was so bad that only Mitsurigi with one particular move could even stand a chance at winning.

SNK boss syndrome is well documented.

And the other being the fact that online is full of tourney people, I played a grand total of 3 ranked VF5 matches, I had a close match with a Vanessa which I lost, I beat an Akira in a close match and then I got decimated beyond anything I have ever seen by an El Blaze.

It was after I was beaten in which I checked the guys gamertag, his name was JunoSynth, the very same JunoSynth that has his name in the game, I sent him message about and he told about how he's been playing VF since the VF1 days.

Never touched ranked again and don't plan to on any future matches in fighting game I may buy in the future, its way above my league and I have no interest in reaching that point, I like playing other games during the day.
Sam Spectre's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 16:39
Sam Spectre
I just really suck at fighting games so I don't play them very much.
Gen Eric Gui's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 16:43
Gen Eric Gui
Because this country is so HUEG and there aren't enough people in any one place to support arcades, which are where fighting games thrive.

Because online play is a fucking TERRIBLE way to play fighters, yet gamers and developers alike can't seem to realize that.

Because nobody wants to put in the effort to learn games anymore, opting instead for simple BUTTEN PRESSAN and SHOOTAN games that don't require thinking or effort.

Because a large % of the fighting game elite are assholes who refuse to help or explain things to anyone else.

Because fighting game players haet change so companies release the same games with a new name and minor move differences over and over and most gamers complain about it so companies stop releasing them at all. This is also the reason your friends refuse to play anything but MvC2.
BS3 Owner's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 16:57
BS3 Owner
@ RobotFart

You have valid points. Online may change the aspect of the fighter again.

My FAVORITE ARCADE & Gaming memories com from the 2D Killer Instinct & Mortal Kombat 1, 2, & 3 days! God Bless the Arcaders!

BTW Killer Instinct 3 too!
* Fingers TIGHTLY Crossed *
BS3 Owner's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 17:01
BS3 Owner
@ gen eric gui

Fighters are in their infancy in terms of Online.
Especially with the hype behind modern day graphics. Could be the golden years for this Genre. There seems to be a reestablishment, of Quality franchises set to be released soooon.
PANZERDRAKO's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 17:30
PANZERDRAKO
nah...
it is so FUCKING EXPENSE bring arcardes down here, specially the new ones...
Bankson's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 17:33
Bankson
My friends and I try to play fighting games, but inevitably someone is just plain better at the game than everyone else and always dominates, and everyone else loses interest. Fighting games in general are not newbie friendly, and its hard to get excited about getting your ass kicked while you learn how to play. Yay Smash Bros.
gregweb's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 17:42
gregweb
If online could be made lag-free for fighting games, I think it would be awesome to be able to find people at your own skill level. It seems a lot of people here hate either 1) the ridiculous depths one has to go to to become skilled and/or 2) the people that basically get incredibly good and ruin the experience for anyone else.
B-Radicate's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 17:59
B-Radicate
Because if there is anything more annoying than rubber-band AI in racing games, its superhuman-level AI in fighting games.
13thDragon's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/17/2008 23:46
13thDragon
Dang, I missed this conversation.

Anyway, I play a fighting game almost every day. From the old to the new. I'm hopelessly addicted.

And there's an assload of good fighting games coming out this year to look forward too.
nilcam's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/21/2008 10:46
nilcam
I still play fighters very frequently. Luckily, I have some good opponents - my wife and a friend who lives nearby. I bought the Hori Arcade Sticks for Wii to get in some old-school KoF and Street Fighter, as well as Guilty Gear.

Most players cannot handle the learning curve, especially those who started gaming during the PlayStation era. If games don''t hold their hands, they give up. It's sad really.
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