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Nothing against Nomura, but... (plus some random art)
garganroo | 7:17 PM on 10.02.2009 18 comments


Just a random art very (and I mean very) loosely inspired by Mario's underwater adventures. This was done yesterday (all ink!) when I can't power-sleep during my lunch break. It's a slightly different style from the usual stuff I did before.



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I'm kind of worried for the Final Fantasy franchise, and probably for all the wrong reasons, but you've got to hear me out:

I'm getting sick of Tetsuya Nomura's art -- there, I said it.

The FF franchise could do some freshening up where art style is concerned. But this guy's clout over Square Enix is too enormous that his style has become some sort of pseudo-mascot for the company's contemporary games. Hell, even Yoshitaka Amano and Akihiko Yoshida's character designs (for FF9 and 12, respectively) both were forced to emulate Nomura's, not to mention a lot of unknowns inside the company. So much for individuality, I guess.

I think Nomura's character designs are becoming a bit bland, similar to Akira Toriyama's increasingly boring output. Or maybe their works have been overexposed and we're just getting tired of seeing familiar styles over and over again.

Wouldn't it be great if they get a new artist every installment? Since official FF titles are not directly related and are basically standalone titles with common (although faint) themes, they can at least risk changing the character designer, too. That'll give each title a flavor of its own, and it will generate more hype (and much forum trolling) with each official announcement.

Hey, Tetsuya! Give yourself a break! (or at least get your own series)



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Diverse's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/02/2009 22:06
Diverse
You gotta admit though, Amano's character designs for FF9 are beautiful. But I feel the same way about Nomura, I didn't mind much in the beginning, and I like the basic design of his characters, but the costume design is just horrendous.

Also, nice drawing! I wish I had some artistic talent.
garganroo's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/02/2009 22:52
garganroo
yeah, Amano's design is quite good (though a bit compromised because the PS1 can't render finer details). Nomura's earlier works (FFVIII) are interesting enough because they're simple compared to X and XIII.

oh, and thanks :)
Y0j1mb0's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2009 02:16
Y0j1mb0
That's a fantastic piece of art you created there garganroo.

Great job.
Avalon's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2009 10:42
Avalon
Honestly, it's still over my head as to why they'd get rid of a professional artist like Amano and bring in a complete novice like Nomura...

FFX's designs are one of the main reasons I refuse to play any more of it.
NOVENO's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2009 12:02
NOVENO
Range Murata or Yoshitoshi Abe?
perri's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2009 13:28
perri
I agree about Nomura. I would definitely support a 'new artist every time' approach. I'm not a huge fan of the naturalistic characters anyway. Give me some style!
garganroo's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2009 13:54
garganroo
i guess an informal petition wouldn't do. once people got sick of his flamboyant style, SE will replace him (or let him 'graduate' like other SE dev) with the new flavor of the decade.

again, nothing against Nomura. :)
Ballistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2009 14:30
Ballistic
yeah good job garganroo, very awesome artwork! I also think that Final Fantasy should have unique character designers and artists for each game, just to make each one feel more unique. However I do like Nomura's style well enough, especially for Kingdom Hearts.
Jack Maverick's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2009 17:53
Jack Maverick
I can't imagine how costly it would be if they decided to get a new artist every installment. But Square Enix makes so much as it is, I'm sure that it wouldn't heavily affect them. Plus a little variety wouldn't hurt the series, I think.

And you inked that entire thing? That's amazing.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2009 19:18
EternalDeathSlayer
Jack Maverick: There are other artists who work at Square Enix. Personally I'm of the opinion that they should choose a different artist every games, but from within the company. Give the youngsters a chance.

Cause Final Fantasy is pretty fucking stale these days.

Eventually sales will start to drop, people will bitch about it, and Square will take the series in a "new direction".

And by "new direction", I mean hire a new artist and keep everything else the same. Now I remember why I don't really play RPGs anymore.
garganroo's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/03/2009 20:25
garganroo
thanks guys!

i think it wouldn't cost them more than what they pay for Nomura. And probably the next one after him will definitely try to copy his style, too.

the Mana series artist could possible revitalize FF; his design is fantastical, sure, but more organic.
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/04/2009 07:20
Wedge
Nothing against Nomura? Oh I've got plenty against him, like killing anything interesting coming out of Square (Enix). Good lord did you see what that bastard did to the characters in Dissidia? It's fucking vile. He needs to stick to stupid 3rd grader cool kids crap like KH and TWEWY and stay out of everything else.
Novakaine's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/04/2009 10:29
Novakaine
I think Toriyama's stuff is better than Nomura, tbqh.
Steel Squirrel's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/04/2009 13:58
Steel Squirrel
Watch out, Yojimbo is going to ask you to draw him a bearded samurai.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/04/2009 18:56
Bob Muir
I like his art in highly specific settings. It fits in TWEWY, since the entire game is based around an outrageous fashion+confidence system set in fashion-savvy Shibuya. The style also fits in Kingdom Hearts, and say what you will about his character designs, but the style he brings to the non-Disney worlds in that game is fantastic - The World/Castle That Never Was is breathtaking in its aesthetics. However, when he brings that style into more "realistic" games, like Final Fantasy...it looks pretty ridiculous. It worked in FFVII well enough, but he got too much freedom after that game.

As for FFXII, I think the only Nomura-esque character was Vaan - every other person fit into the "Ivalice" style in some way.
garganroo's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/04/2009 21:28
garganroo
@steel squirrel: my pleasure :)

@necros: true that his style fits more contemporary games, as his style (or his fashion sense) fits well with modern/cosplay-friendly games.

unless they're keeping nomura for sheer cosplay power alone. that'll be an interesting conspiracy.

i think the first kingdom hearts started out fresh (and quite balanced as well!), but when I started seeing more of those hooded figures, I began to wonder if nomura's given more control than he deserves. 3 games later, kingdom hearts may be devoid of anything disney (or, gasp, nomurafied disney characters)
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