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let's figure it out. what is revolutionary?
galagabug | 1:34 PM on 11.15.2007 16 comments


this is a big fish to fry.
what makes a game revolutionary?
is revolutionary a buzz word thrown around in the industry for games that don't suck? is that enough to be revolutionary on its own?

2 games that are a current hot-button for controversy when the word revolutionary is thrown around are Bioshock, and Super Mario Galaxy. Both awsome games, but what is it that makes them revolutionary?

Fuck if i know. Bioshock was an excellent shooter, Mario Galaxy is an excellent platformer, but where's the innovation. I think the two words are synonomous. Innovation is what makes something revolutionary, right? maybe? i don't know thats why i'm asking you.

Since i have no clue what the word means, or how to properly use it in a sentence, here's a few games that i consider to be revolutionary, and why.

Street Fighter 2: Introduced complex commands to execute special moves. Someone threw a fireball, you can look high and low for the fireball button, but it ain't there. you gotta move down, down fwd, fwd then press punch and boom! fireball. if you were placed in front of this game with no instruction, you could stand there forever and not figure it out.

Wii Sports: introduced the waggle. it came first. it wins.

Zelda: Saved games on a battery, no complex strings needed to be written down or remembered.

Tecmo Super Bowl: First console sports game with real players and rosters that allow you to reposition players (at least the ones on offense).

Gradius: Shmup with selective powerups. Now par for the corse.

Galaga: the first game to nail risk vs. reward by allowing the player to attempt to double up thier ships at the risk of losing one of them.

Super Mario 64: First console 3d platformer to really nail how to control an avatar in 3d.

Goldeneye: First console game to nail FPS controls.

so am i doing it wrong? can you defend bioshock or galaxy as revolutionary? i ony accept arguments in MLA format. site your sources.



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BlindsideDork's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/15/2007 13:50
BlindsideDork
your mom
galagabug 's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/15/2007 13:54
galagabug
just b/c my mom had a trach doesn't make her revolutionary. god didn't put that hole there, science did. she didn't become revolutionary until someone decided to.. yuck. i'm done. this is my mother we're talkin about.
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/15/2007 13:54
king3vbo
your dad
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/15/2007 13:54
Aaron Mxy Yost
Revolutionary is a term that means much less that people ascribe to it. Symphony of the Night is basically a goth version of Super Metroid, which is just a pimped out version of Metroid. So Metroid for the NES came first, the rest are just evolutions of this game... does that mean they aren't as good because the basic concept has been done before? Great games take good ideas and refine them to the point of awesome. God of War wasn't that different from Rygar on the PS2, but it did everything much, much better. That's why people love God of War and barely remember Rygar.

Pretty much every idea has been had before. Smart people build on those ideas to come up with even better ones.
galagabug 's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/15/2007 13:55
galagabug
yes. but again more so due to radiation than innovation. i wish i had 2 penises.
blehman's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/15/2007 13:56
blehman
Revolutionary=hasn't been done before (or done well enough before) and most games copy par afterwards.

source
galagabug 's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/15/2007 13:58
galagabug
@mxyzplk - good point. the revolutionary titles are seldom the great games, the best games borrow well. like galaxy. like bioshock. usually innovation catches people off gaurd and can even be off putting. like popcorn flavored jelly beans. innovative, but not in a good way.
MaxVest's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/15/2007 14:07
MaxVest
Games can't really be considered revolutionary unless other games start copying a particular distinctive feature from them. So if SMG inspires a whole new pantheon of spherical gravity-based platforming, then it started a revolution. Or if Bioshock leads to an influx of Ayn Randian dystopian shooters, then it will be considered revolutionary.

Basically, often you've got to look back to tell what is revolutionary. That's why most of your games listed are old. All those games that were innovative failures weren't revolutionary.
Rockvillian's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/15/2007 14:07
Rockvillian
It could also be a personal opinion. Zack and Wiki is a great example of what I call revolutionary, because it serves as a fresh new take on point-n-click adventure games while satisfying the need for more adventure games on current gen systems.

In other words, it could possibly start an actual revolution of new material in that genre.
Rockvillian's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/15/2007 14:09
Rockvillian
Exactly Max!
FuriousGeorge's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/15/2007 14:13
FuriousGeorge
ummm
blast processing
blu ray
the 32X
3do
CD-i

all revolutionary
galagabug 's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/15/2007 14:21
galagabug
@blehman - that source was very informative. i have to email it to some friends.

this post was good for some lulz.
Rockvillian's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/15/2007 14:28
Rockvillian
ARGH! DAMN YOU BLEHMAN!

That's like the 5th time this month I fell for that.
liam2015's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/15/2007 14:58
liam2015
@FuriousGeorge
WTF?

I agree with MaxVest, it was the old games that inspired so many to make great games.

So does that make the GTA series revolutionary? I'd like to think so
galagabug 's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/15/2007 15:02
galagabug
@liam - max hit it dead on. GTA is definately revolutionary.

GTA - the top down PC game was the first game to introduce car-jacking (copied everywhere now, even halo), may have been the first game to have you playing as and encouraging you to commit felonies.

GTAIII - raised the bar even higher with:
radio stations
'sandbox' gameplay
beating prostitutes
Whackjob's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/15/2007 16:12
Whackjob
Spore will be revolutionary, just because it'll be the first widespread game utilizing precedural generation. Nothing else like it.
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