Wow... that was a wonderful blog and I do think that you expressed very well the feelings of many gamers.
I'm not really one to make close friends. Aside from my husband, we have some old friends we see occasionally and I have one "best" friend who lives across the country and we don't actually talk all that often any more (though we always see each other when she's out here on the west coast to visit her parents). Over the years in gaming communities I've come to know some people better than I ever knew people in the "real" world.
If friendship is defined as support, sharing, laughter, tears and a genuine affection... then yes, virtual friendships are just as real.
Again, this was a truly lovely blog.
(and I'm sorry for the loss of your friend)
I'm not really one to make close friends. Aside from my husband, we have some old friends we see occasionally and I have one "best" friend who lives across the country and we don't actually talk all that often any more (though we always see each other when she's out here on the west coast to visit her parents). Over the years in gaming communities I've come to know some people better than I ever knew people in the "real" world.
If friendship is defined as support, sharing, laughter, tears and a genuine affection... then yes, virtual friendships are just as real.
Again, this was a truly lovely blog.
(and I'm sorry for the loss of your friend)
Thanks for taking the time to read. You pretty much summed up exactly what I was getting at: virtual friendships are just as "real" as those shared with people you physically know.
Well done. Relationships with real people are important, but to claim that what you described is not a real community with a bond is wrong.
She was an ignorant bitch, plain and simple. Be proud of the connections you've made. No need to feel shame over gaming. People watch a sh*t ton of TV and no one hassles them, because their recreational pleasure is socially acceptable. Some people still view us gamers as social-phobic losers. Well, let them go on thinking that. It's not our job to educate all the ignorant people. We just got to look out for ourselves and our friends, while making sure that our pleasure never actually hurts us or anybody else.
Sorry to hear about the loss of your friend.
I find it funny that there are many people that think you cannot have "online" friends when the majority of these people keep in contact solely through Facebook. It's a bit of a double-standard. But at the same time, all your friends can't be people you know only through online. Balance is necessary, we need that physical interaction.
Anyways welcome to Destructoid. We are much better than GT :P
I find it funny that there are many people that think you cannot have "online" friends when the majority of these people keep in contact solely through Facebook. It's a bit of a double-standard. But at the same time, all your friends can't be people you know only through online. Balance is necessary, we need that physical interaction.
Anyways welcome to Destructoid. We are much better than GT :P
Thanks for the kind words all.
@backside: One of my friends said the same thing to me earlier. I'm in no way ashamed of what my hobbies are, I just would much rather skip the justification process that seems to always follow. Enjoyment is a top priority.
@Celica: You bring up a pretty good point with Facebook. While I have one, I don't find myself on it much at all. If I wish to talk to someone, I'll personally contact them. And yet I always see the same "friends" logged in 24/7.
Thanks for the welcome. I've been lurking for a while now, finally decided to bite the bullet and make a post :D
@backside: One of my friends said the same thing to me earlier. I'm in no way ashamed of what my hobbies are, I just would much rather skip the justification process that seems to always follow. Enjoyment is a top priority.
@Celica: You bring up a pretty good point with Facebook. While I have one, I don't find myself on it much at all. If I wish to talk to someone, I'll personally contact them. And yet I always see the same "friends" logged in 24/7.
Thanks for the welcome. I've been lurking for a while now, finally decided to bite the bullet and make a post :D
Didn't realize this was your first post. As for people reading your posts, we are good about that as long as your posts are good, which if this is any indication you have potential. Welcome to Dtoid!
@Enkido: Haha yeah, I'm pretty selective about what I post. While I do have pretty strong feelings about things, I'm usually particular about how I share/contribute. I'd hate to be that guy who spouts rubbish. With this much positive feed back so soon, I'll definitely be back with more. Thanks!
Great blog mate, I have a couple of friends online as well and I've even gotten and sent things to one of them, bday presents and whatnot. Online relationships are tricky, but they can be just as real as a real relationship.
Great blog. I don't really have anything to add that others already haven't commented. I've always felt that gaming has unfairly gotten a bad rep for being "anti-social" when it can be the exact opposite. A lot the best times I've had with friends, online and offline, has revolved around gaming.
I don't understand why people are so against the thought of video gamers becoming friends. Is it not merely many people gathering doing something they love and forming bonds from it? In that sense, I see it as being no different than people meeting during sporting events, at bars, at the gym... wherever. A friendship isn't defined by how much time is spent together face-to-face; it is possible to form bonds through other forms of interaction.
And what of all these stories we read describing couples that met online and have been married? Are these marriages not acceptable and doomed to fail?
This girl seems very uneducated. Try not to let her words get to you more than they have.
And what of all these stories we read describing couples that met online and have been married? Are these marriages not acceptable and doomed to fail?
This girl seems very uneducated. Try not to let her words get to you more than they have.
I've never really been part on an Internet "family." I've had some people in my friend list for a while, but then I'd just end up moving on, or they would. In either case, I admit to never having formed any lasting bonds online that way.
Some people I know in real life do exist in my friend list, however, in a sort of permanent status. I communicate with them regularly on the phone or face to face. They, however, did introduce me to their gaming clans and friends, who are nice people. I can see myself hanging around with them, but not permanently.
Don't get me wrong: I think making friends online (through gaming) is great, especially since it breaks through all physical barriers of social interaction and distances, as you're meeting in common grounds to do something of interest to all of you. It's a great way for new connections.
I, however, see myself as a wanderer online. I like to be active in many places, share my thoughts, but never really pursue online friendships.
Some people I know in real life do exist in my friend list, however, in a sort of permanent status. I communicate with them regularly on the phone or face to face. They, however, did introduce me to their gaming clans and friends, who are nice people. I can see myself hanging around with them, but not permanently.
Don't get me wrong: I think making friends online (through gaming) is great, especially since it breaks through all physical barriers of social interaction and distances, as you're meeting in common grounds to do something of interest to all of you. It's a great way for new connections.
I, however, see myself as a wanderer online. I like to be active in many places, share my thoughts, but never really pursue online friendships.
That was an excellent read. Personally, I have not made any strong, lasting bonds with anyone I have met through online gaming, but with the right circumstances and time invested, a group of online friends could definitely become a family. Sorry for your loss.
I'm sorry for your loss mate, as I know what it's like to have "online" friends and such. I mean if you talk to them and spend so much time "with" them, it doesn't matter if it's really in person or not, they're still a friend. There's people in real life you can still hang out with and all, but the "virtual" ones can be too. I mean I play(ed) Call of Duty with a bunch of guys for DAYS over the summer and all that, and I've gotten Christmas gifts from them and such, so it's really real an dall dude. Good read!
I'm sorry you had to go through that. Your friend's fiancé is whats wrong with a lot of people: ignorance and opinionated blindness. She probably didn't mean any harm, and thought she was being helpful, but she wasn't. I haven't met too many that are like that, but It would be hard to keep myself from arguing with such a person, getting all annoyed and bothered. Anyways, concerning internet or online game friends, I haven't bonded at the same level as you have, but I've come close in my pc fps clan days. From the looks of it, don't worry too much, you have friends, real ones, whether you've met them face to face or not. Oh, and FANTASTIC first post... Welcome to Destructoid :)
My cousin met his girlfriend through online gaming. Nicest intro blog I've seen in a while. Welcome.
We don't have a formal clan that we tend to stick to, but I have a group of friends I met through FFXI that I follow to almost every major game that they congregate for. I think it's pretty typical for gamers like us (those who would hold a blog about the subject and do little else with our free time) to form gaming-based relationships.
The vast majority of my RL friends and I share the hobby in common as well, but to varying degrees. I'd ignore people like your friend's fiancee -- their words about gaming stem almost entirely from ignorance. Gamers who have gaming friends are indeed establishing deep social relationships. They may not carry as much real-world "networking" weight as a face-to-face relationship, but there's no denying that they carry a lot of personal value.
Great post. Don't feel ashamed or angered about your friends' fiancee's words -- she clearly has not taken the same path in life as yours, and clearly was making an attempt to comfort her own life's insecurities (difficulty finding a job) by trying to make her life seem more important than yours... We're all prone to do that sort of thing at the expense of others.
The vast majority of my RL friends and I share the hobby in common as well, but to varying degrees. I'd ignore people like your friend's fiancee -- their words about gaming stem almost entirely from ignorance. Gamers who have gaming friends are indeed establishing deep social relationships. They may not carry as much real-world "networking" weight as a face-to-face relationship, but there's no denying that they carry a lot of personal value.
Great post. Don't feel ashamed or angered about your friends' fiancee's words -- she clearly has not taken the same path in life as yours, and clearly was making an attempt to comfort her own life's insecurities (difficulty finding a job) by trying to make her life seem more important than yours... We're all prone to do that sort of thing at the expense of others.
Wow, I never expected to get such a huge response; thank you so much guys. It's great to see that others have had the opportunity to enjoy friendships through gaming like I have. It seems like the gaming community is a lot more open-minded towards the definition of what friendship is, which is great to see.
Thanks again for the welcome and expect more in the coming weeks (currently swamped with work).
Thanks again for the welcome and expect more in the coming weeks (currently swamped with work).
Just to reiterate what everyone else said: your friends fiance is horribly ill-informed. I'm 27, and I have only a couple high school friends that I still keep in touch with. We gamed together back then, and since we now live in 3 different states across the country we can still enjoy our favorite pastime together, online. I have friends local in my city (non-gamers) who I hang out with, but I'm glad I can keep those bonds with my high school friends through the power of gaming.
Welcome to dtoid. Great first post, keep it up.
Welcome to dtoid. Great first post, keep it up.

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