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" I don't care how long he's been doing the Keith character, nor do I care how many views he has on Youtube - the man deserves to be banned from PAX and I am glad it has happened."
Agreed.
"I have no reason to doubt that Jessica is far more knowledgeable about the product she's promoting than a random model hired off the street to flaunt skin in an entirely irrelevant and sleazy manner. Personally, I see a gray area..."
Agreed! I'm glad that Jessica immediately took to Twitter to confirm that she was in fact going to be there for the rest of PAX -- that put some rumors to rest.
Anyway I hope you had fun despite this circus.
Agreed.
"I have no reason to doubt that Jessica is far more knowledgeable about the product she's promoting than a random model hired off the street to flaunt skin in an entirely irrelevant and sleazy manner. Personally, I see a gray area..."
Agreed! I'm glad that Jessica immediately took to Twitter to confirm that she was in fact going to be there for the rest of PAX -- that put some rumors to rest.
Anyway I hope you had fun despite this circus.
I had an absolute blast, and I only learned that any of this happened during a brief Dtoid check on my phone in my hotel room Saturday evening.
I hope this "controversy", if you can call it that, helps Lollipop Chainsaw sell 1 million copies.
Any publicity is good publicity.
Any publicity is good publicity.
On Keithgate... nicely said and I agree.
On Jessica/Juliet... I disagree. There simply IS a distinction between someone cosplaying with no monetary interest and someone paid to promote a product. The simple fact is that WB broke the "no boothbabes" policy which specifies no partial nudity and they broke the intent of the "no boothbabes" policy which was to create a family friendly atmosphere. If the PAX administration had allowed Juliet Starling, then they would have to allow every other game with a partially clothed female character to have their character represented at the show and future shows. Jessica seems like an adorable girl (lord, I do sound like an old lady when I say that I guess) and she seems well suited to the role, but the fact is that she was being paid to promote a game. She WAS a boothbabe. She was asked to change her outfit and I honestly don't see why such a big deal is being made out of this.
Many gaming conventions market almost exclusively to straight men. The showroom floors are ablaze with color and half naked women, creating an almost strip club type atmosphere - an atmosphere that can be uncomfortable for women, gay men, married men with their wives, or parents with young children and can make them feel excluded because the message is "you don't game and we don't need to sell games to you". PAX is simply trying to enforce a policy where all gamers can feel comfortable in the environment of a convention for and by gamers... rather than strictly being a marketing event. PAX is meant to be "family friendly" and a strip club environment is simply something that is not suited to PAX.
WB should have realized this and not pushed the issue by putting Jessica in the position of wearing the pink jumpsuit.
My opinion anyway. She could have worn the outfit at E3 - an over 18, marketing oriented event... but at PAX it broke a simple rule of the event and the intent of the rule.
On Jessica/Juliet... I disagree. There simply IS a distinction between someone cosplaying with no monetary interest and someone paid to promote a product. The simple fact is that WB broke the "no boothbabes" policy which specifies no partial nudity and they broke the intent of the "no boothbabes" policy which was to create a family friendly atmosphere. If the PAX administration had allowed Juliet Starling, then they would have to allow every other game with a partially clothed female character to have their character represented at the show and future shows. Jessica seems like an adorable girl (lord, I do sound like an old lady when I say that I guess) and she seems well suited to the role, but the fact is that she was being paid to promote a game. She WAS a boothbabe. She was asked to change her outfit and I honestly don't see why such a big deal is being made out of this.
Many gaming conventions market almost exclusively to straight men. The showroom floors are ablaze with color and half naked women, creating an almost strip club type atmosphere - an atmosphere that can be uncomfortable for women, gay men, married men with their wives, or parents with young children and can make them feel excluded because the message is "you don't game and we don't need to sell games to you". PAX is simply trying to enforce a policy where all gamers can feel comfortable in the environment of a convention for and by gamers... rather than strictly being a marketing event. PAX is meant to be "family friendly" and a strip club environment is simply something that is not suited to PAX.
WB should have realized this and not pushed the issue by putting Jessica in the position of wearing the pink jumpsuit.
My opinion anyway. She could have worn the outfit at E3 - an over 18, marketing oriented event... but at PAX it broke a simple rule of the event and the intent of the rule.
Elsa I hope you don't go to sporting events. A lot of those family friendly events have scantily clad cheerleaders and dancers at half time. How uncomfortable!
Zgerhard: I don't know if I agree that Jessica dressing up as Juliet truly counted as a "boothbabe," but that's not quite fair either. Elsa's point was that when all of these companies have half-naked chicks staffing their booths and obviously pandering to straight males, it can make women and people there with children feel like they are being excluded from the fun. I think that's silly, but I also think I understand it. I'm not sure that cheerleaders at football games really raise that same feeling of exclusion. Although, I admit, many women dislike or are uncomfortable with sporting events, as well.
@Elsa
I agree that the pink jumpsuit was an unwise decision as it crossed the line. When typing up my post, I guess my train of thought just focused more on the impression that some have expressed no sexy women should ever be at a game booth, regardless of outfit, simply because booth + babe = boothbabe, and I honestly don't believe it's so black and white. Juliet's basic cheerleading outfit was far more acceptable. The fact that she didn't simply change back into it on the final day has me suspect that WB was told otherwise, which is dumb.
I agree that the pink jumpsuit was an unwise decision as it crossed the line. When typing up my post, I guess my train of thought just focused more on the impression that some have expressed no sexy women should ever be at a game booth, regardless of outfit, simply because booth + babe = boothbabe, and I honestly don't believe it's so black and white. Juliet's basic cheerleading outfit was far more acceptable. The fact that she didn't simply change back into it on the final day has me suspect that WB was told otherwise, which is dumb.
I don't agree. Unfortunately sex sells and that's how the human mind works. The only people who really have an issue are people who are insecure of themselves. Honestly the clothes booth babes wear is nothing different from sporting event cheerleaders, girls at the beach, gymnastics people, Victoria's secret storefronts, etc. Don't even tell me that half naked Olympic gymnastics chicks don't endorse products on tv and run about in their half suit.
Like I said, the only people who care are those whom are insecure. There should never be a big deal about this kind of crap and its so incredibly silly.
Like I said, the only people who care are those whom are insecure. There should never be a big deal about this kind of crap and its so incredibly silly.
It's not about people being insecure. It's about there existing a rule, and about people breaking the rule. Disagreeing with the rule doesn't exempt you from it. I am personally glad the rule exists, which I explained in my post. Juliet's cheerleading outfit walks the fine line between relevant video game cosplay and prohibited attire. Changing into the jumpsuit was the wrong thing to do, and I think PA was justified in asking her to change, since it was breaking a rule.
Pretty well said! I think this is getting a bit overblown though. It's like gamers/publications go chasing after controversy.
@zgerhard
LOL @ "cheerleaders", it's such an American concept. If you need sex to sell a sport or tell you when to get excited, there's something very wrong with your product. They are definitely a distraction when it comes to sporting events, and that's before we even get into the whole "gender roles" argument.
@zgerhard
LOL @ "cheerleaders", it's such an American concept. If you need sex to sell a sport or tell you when to get excited, there's something very wrong with your product. They are definitely a distraction when it comes to sporting events, and that's before we even get into the whole "gender roles" argument.
