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doc love | 9:21 PM on 01.13.2008 9 comments


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doc love's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/13/2008 21:33
doc love
Today's advanced comment - I don't tie you up and make you read it, and I could cause I'm a big guy and I'm good with knots...
Puppy Licks's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/13/2008 21:48
Puppy Licks
Here here!
iateyourhorse's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/13/2008 21:52
iateyourhorse
Saved for future reference, however I expected this was something to do with Trent Reznor before I clicked.
Brian Szabelski's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/13/2008 22:32
Brian Szabelski
Interesting read, and I agree that some people are seeing gaming as culturally important. I collect games in part to preserve history, and that's part of the reason I seek out lesser-known games as well as the better-known titles, because I don't want them to fade into nothingness.
archimed's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2008 20:08
archimed
I'm the last person to come to the defense of the Academy, as I often find myself disagreeing with 90% of the garbage produced by academics. Yet, I find your post waxing a bit piously - it's one thing to call for an open dialogue, but it's quite another to simultaneously insult the people you want to communicate with! Now, if we put aside the drama for a moment, there certainly exist possibilities for genuine 'understandings' of video game life I think. Academics aren't all wizards and crystal balls, peering into the suffering of mere mortals.

Some of them, like myself, like Michael over at The Brainy Gamer, like Gnome over at Gnome's Lair, and Chris over at [url="http://onlyagame.typepad.com]Only a Game[/url] make serious attempts to understand gaming as gamers without trying to dominate game life like some sycophantic dominator. To haphazardly declare that academia is persona-non-grata in the world of gaming is simply senseless, because we already know that a large number of academics are themselves gamers. If you want to encourage participatory dialogues, it doesn't happen through agitprop manifestos - it comes through an invitation, a welcoming.

Like I said - I'm usually the last person to defend the ridiculous nature of academia, but I'm also the first person to defend anyone's right to interpret cultural life as they see fit. Academia, like the press, like bloggers, like parents, like the government, like religious groups, is not some single homogenous group - it is filled with people of differing interests and personal goals... some people want to understand, some people never want to understand. As a student and an academic, I can honestly say that you've grossly over-generalized a minority group (of sorts). Mutilating the other into silence isn't a recipe for dialogue.

At least, that's how I see it. I'm welcome to someone persuading me of something different.
archimed's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2008 20:09
archimed
apologies for the typos.. I wish this thing had an 'edit' mode!
doc love's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2008 21:35
doc love
Archimed - Believe it or not I really appreciate this response. I'm not certain I can immediately give it the degree of attention it deserves. I will try to address this fully in a future post. For now I would say that my past and current involvement with the academy has drawn me to conclude that when we pass beyond the door of post-modernism that the institution itself enters into a state of irrelevancy. It is my hope that any invitations I make draw the talented individuals in these spheres toward the risky proposition of pursuing work without the institution. This stems from my sincerest belief and regret that the academy is more inclined to absorb and fit perspectives into itself than transform, and ultimately holds real progress back. I do not intend this to speak ill of anyone working within these institutions. I do intend to suggest that their work will always be constricted by them. And as with so many before me, I often hope to make an impact in any way possible that furthers the dialogue, even when it affects the perception of my intentions.
archimed's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/16/2008 22:13
archimed
I'm not sure if academics can be anything else but academics (I am reminded of the fable of the Scorpion and the Frog: "It is my nature") - but the same could be said of gamers - that they have nothing to contribute to academia or the rest of society 'because they are just gamers in the end'. I reject both of those conclusions (I'm not sure if you are suggesting that) - because they don't provide a lot of insight.

I'm also not sure what 'real progress' would look like without a variety of voices. The writing I do is informed by many of the things I pick up in academia, and vice-versa.

Either way, I'm enjoying your writings. If you have any interest in contributing to a group-based blog that discusses many of these issues (in a slightly casual way), let me know.
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