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I'm a craps dealer at a casino in Southern California. My job revolves around table games... My leisure time is consumed mostly with video games. My life is one big meaningless game.

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Giving Credit Where It's Due... NOT To Goldeneye.
diceshow7 | 3:54 AM on 09.01.2009 8 comments


I enjoy perusing past community blogs and seeing what people have had to say about games of yore. I get off on nostalgia, and it's cool to read about the games that have infused people with such memories. I think we all have a deep-seeded desire to identify with people who've played a certain game and just know what it meant to them and the place in time it represented.

At least I hope we do. I don't wanna be alone on this one... although bashing Goldeneye will probably ensure it.

I was sifting through pages of past c-blogs concerning their earliest exposure to multiplayer gaming. If you had to name one game that started it all (if you're within the 25-35 age bracket) you'd probably say Goldeneye. And that's totally fair. The game could easily be considered the fore-father of FPS multiplayer gaming and a vast number of past blogs from this site (and many others) back this idea up nicely.

I played it casually... for about a year. The campaign never got old, but splitting the screen into four and gunning down friends just seemed off. It was choppy. And sloppy.

Then something else came along.



Turok 2: Seeds of Evil came out a year after Goldeneye. And at that point my career as James Bond ended. No tears were shed.

We could debate which game had the better campaign mode and although it'd take a week or so, I think I'd win this one. Weaponry, graphics, sounds, AI, environments, difficulty, boss battles... Kindly place a check-mark next to Turok and we'll move on.

Multiplayer? *grabs megaphone and climbs atop soapbox* Turok was better. *gets booed, but remains*

1) Weapons. They were toned down tremendously in multiplayer and they were still far superior. The Firestorm cannon was nowhere near as fierce, and the Scorpion Launcher fired one missile at a time instead of three consecutively. Didn't matter. Each weapon had its place and it brought a special balance to the multiplayer experience. Even if your enemies reached the more powerful guns before you, there were still ways around being killed. Aim the Charge Dart gun at a foe, zap him, and then switch to your Pistol and aim for his head. The Assault Rifle in Turok was the fore-father of the much-used battle rifle from Halo, FYI. Fires the same exact way. And I wouldn't have the faintest clue as how to snipe in today's games had it not been for the scope afforded by the Plasma Rifle in Turok.

2) Levels. At first glance they seemed overly simple, when in reality they were sheer genius. Whether close-quartered or spread out there was always a place to stalk or just leap into a mess of action from, and the location of weapons ensured that each player had a different approach. Goldeneye's levels were cramped and un-befitting to multiplayer action.

3) Options. The best thing about Turok's multiplayer mode was being able to modify things, most importantly speed. The default setting made for good play, but then once you got things down you could adjust the speed at which your character moves. Tired of running like a scared little girl from a freshly launched Cerebral Bore? Up the speed and you're suddenly rounding a corner to shelter easily. Or in the weapons menu just turn the thing off. Either or. Goldeneye had one speed, and it virtually guaranteed things were all too sloppy.

I don't expect this opinion to be popular, and if it is then rest-assured it's because no one wants to agree with it. Yes, Goldeneye was great. It spawned the multiplayer aspect and gave us a new way to play competitively. Turok 2 improved upon it but no one noticed because Goldeneye's grip wouldn't free you long enough to see it. I'm just tired of it being credited for something when another game did it better. I'd be doing myself a disservice if I didn't share what spawned my undying love for the multiplayer genre and nurtured it for 6 solid years.

If you've still got a 64 I implore you to snag Seeds of Evil, four controllers, and a few buddies and have a go at it. Turn the game's speed up a notch or two once you get familiar with the controls and surroundings. Learn each weapon and perfect them, and bring the pain.

You can thank me later.



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Proper Badman's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 06:33
Proper Badman
I wish I could agree. I got it for my birthday and had to beg my friends to play it over Goldeneye. I was trying to delude myself that it was better. The best part of it was u could play as a frickin raptor tho. That shit was so baller.

Also the single player was an awful mess.
SuitcoatAvenger's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 07:05
SuitcoatAvenger
Points 1-3 should have just been "Cerebral Bore".

Anyway, I'm going to have to disagree. Turok 2 was good for what it was, it just didn't impact me the way Goldeneye did. For one, it had considerably less slapfights. The complete lack of Oddjob was particularly noteworthy as well.
Torzelan's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 07:41
Torzelan
"If you had to name one game that started it all (if you're within the 25-35 age bracket) you'd probably say Goldeneye. And that's totally fair. The game could easily be considered the fore-father of FPS multiplayer gaming and a vast number of past blogs from this site (and many others) back this idea up nicely."

Reading that I could only think two letters; PC.

Anyhow, as far as GoldenEye vs. Turok 2 multiplayer goes, it was the former all the way here too. Dunno, Turok 2 just didn't have anything that made us want to keep going back to it. The coolest parts were probably the Cerebral Bore and z0mg dinosaurs!1, but those two alone couldn't carry the whole game for very long. Just the paintball mode in GoldenEye one-upped those gimmicks (for us).

Hell, while decidedly better on PC, even Duke Nukem and perhaps Quake got more playtime on our N64 than Turok. Just for the easy multiplayer though (internets were difficult back then). Man... Never have friends lied to eachother as much as when asked "how did you know where I was? Did you look at my screen?".

But yeah. GoldenEye is the only FPS game I was fine with playing on a controller instead of keyboard & mouse (as if there was a choice in that case). Together with that, our N64 was a machine for Mario 64, Zelda: OoT, Mario Kart 64 and Killer Instinct Gold. (My Jago needs to return, where's the sequel!?) Unless I'm missing something, very few other games were even a blip on the radar such as Pilotwings 64... Turok 2 is only remembered for the cerebral bore and the hilarious intro :)
Kraid's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 09:24
Kraid
I don't mean to be ruuuudde BUT! Turok 2 was shite. And it still gives me motion sickness while on the other hand Goldeneye has aged much better.

Turok sucked there I said it.
sickNasty's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 09:34
sickNasty
I never played Turok 2, but I have to agree with the sentiment about Goldeneye. I think people are way too nostalgic when they think about Goldeneye. It was a good game for it's time. But it doesn't really hold up today.
fetusmilk's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/01/2009 10:00
fetusmilk
personally i had more fun playing goldeneye's story mode trying to beat times and such.

also i had been playing computer FPS games like doom,heretic,hexen and so forth over the internet long before goldeneye came out so it was nothing new or special.
Samuel Dillinger's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/02/2009 01:22
Samuel Dillinger
I think you have been vexed my friend,

Although I did enjoy playing through both, I can't remember having my friends over, drinking coke, getting hyped on sugar and going crazy over Turok 2, the same way we went crazy for Goldeneye 64.

SuitCoatAvenger is correct, all you needed to say was Cerebral Bore and you may have won me over, but everything else you stated was your opinion, not fact, but I still respect your opinion.
diceshow7's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/02/2009 14:51
diceshow7
I expected very little back-up.

In my defense, I have a small army of friends in Michigan who'll swear on the game.
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