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Super Star Punishment
deadknight | 10:18 AM on 12.03.2007 7 comments


Last week I randomly indulged in a nostalgic whim and picked up copies of Super Star Wars and Super Empire Strikes Back off Ebay. If I remember correctly, I used cheats on these when I was a kid, and I think it was justified.

These games have something that we simply don’t get anymore, and I don’t think it would be allowed. They are punishing and unforgiving. You do not want to die, and you will die. Both games are not amazing, but play fairly well, probably averaging a low 80s in my book. But even on easy these games are hard. You miss a jump, you die. Bosses will kill you if you are not damn careful. Enemies hurt you bad, and only the plentiful health-power ups prevent you from dying. There are occasional cheap deaths, Wampa freezes you, then whacks you, you slide into spiked pit an die. Yet I don’t feel totally cheated, as it was my own stupid ass fault for getting frozen and trying to frontally assault a Wampa. Yes, this game says “be careful, take your time, there will be no coasting through this game please.”

And I like that. It’s been a long time since I have screamed ‘damn it!’ and other stronger words, and cursed the game. But it’s my own damn fault. This was what most of gaming was like in the 2-d era, especially Nintendo. Yet the negative reinforcement of punishing a playing for being stupid doesn’t really exist anymore. Odin Sphere is hard, but death is of no consequence, you just restart the stage, and you die a lot. But I certainly don’t feel there is a penalty for death, except maybe having to play for 10-15 minute to beat a stage.

Least to say there might be a wider cultural thing going on here, with positive reinforcement being the way to train your dog, children, etc. Not that I disagree with the method, but the absolutism against negative reinforcement seems a bit much to me. It’s useful and quite necessary here and there, and yes I want my games to punish me for playing badly. I do not want to automatically reload after running and gunning to the moment just before I went running and gunning (yes Halo I am talking about you).

In the Super Star Wars games, if you die, you lose all power ups, both health bar expansions and blasters. On each new level you start with minimum health, through retaining blasters. And often bosses are way harder to beat without blaster power-ups and health extensions. Even on easy. So basically, DO NOT DIE. And I like this brutality, it keeps me interested, it keeps me challenged, it makes me want to prove myself by going back and beating the game on hard. There is a real sense of accomplishment when there is more at stake. Beating Halo and games with the similar instant respawn mechanic just becomes more of a chore than something worthwhile. Game death is a passive experience, with nothing at stake but some time.

Perhaps look at it this way. Why is gaming so damn addicting and rewarding? Because so much is at risk. Yes, risk is a fundamental gameplay mechanic that seems to be dying, and I think I am sad to see it go. Sure it’s not for casual gamers, who would be turned off by the frustration, but this i why I keep going back to my SNES and NES. There is just something there that I can’t get in games of the past 10 years, something really rewarding and satisfying, feeling like I conquered a game, rather than just played through it.



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king3vbo's Destructoid Blog
Super Star Wars is amazing, and I still play it, but GOD DAMNIT it is hard
BahamutZero's Destructoid Blog
super empire strikes back was one of the few games I actually broke something while playing. my poor turbo fire controller. I still miss that thing.
twincannon's Destructoid Blog
I like risk in video game. Stuff that gets my adrenaline going is awesome. Strangely the last time this really happened to me was Everquest, I know it may get special treatment because it was an MMO but oh my god. It was absolutely brutal. I remember stepping inside of a hollowed out tree in a lower level dungeon to hide from some monsters passing by and it having a fake goddamn floor which I fell through, down to like the lowest basement floor of the dungeon where the monsters are all level a billion. And can you simply resurrect at a spirit guide? Nope, you lose a ton of experience for dying and you resurrect at your bind point (usually a minimum 10 minute run) with no equipment. And if you didn't get your corpse - with all your gear - within a few days? It vanished. Good god.
BahamutZero's Destructoid Blog
twincannon you should play cod4 on veteran. nothing soul-crushing like losing gear you've worked on for months, but talk about adrenaline...
Haxan's Destructoid Blog
I remember tackling all of those games in a weekend. Then again, I used to be able to go through Contra without losing a life. I certainly can't do that anymore. I'm not sure if it's a lack of practise or if my skills have been dumbed down due to the complete lack of difficulty in modern games.
BahamutZero's Destructoid Blog
haxan it's definitely the constant practice. muscle memory my friend. just like anything worth doing
Tiff's Destructoid Blog
wut you blog lol

o hai


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