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In regards to King of Fighters XII
covah | 12:45 PM on 07.08.2009 29 comments




NO! This is NOT about BlazBlue! This is about that other 2D fighter coming out this month! BlazBlue will NOT be talked about here... although... BlazBlue is pretty awesome... WAIT, NO! NO BLAZBLUE!!!

I'm talking about King of Fighters XII! Last night I was looking through the internet at stuff like KoF '02 UM's chances of coming to XBLA, and started thinking to the more immediate future that is XII.

Now, if you don't know by now, XII is supposed to be the "rebirth" of the series. Its like what 98 was and (I think) 02 was, where it has nothing to do with the story, and its just a bunch of fan favorites duking it out. Now, as a note, I will buy this game, and probably love it (not as much as Bla-NO! NONE OF THAT) but I'm concerned about it.

It really seems SNK just got lost with this game along the way, and the so called "rebirth" might have to wait till KoF XIII. If you've been following this game you know what some of the complaints are, and the big one is the roster. You have a bunch of the main characters like Andy, Terry, Kyo, Iori, Joe, ect. Hell even Ash is in there, and he's just barely the protagonist of the series now But as a rebirth of the franchise they're certainly missing a lot of fan favorites. Here, take a look at the roster (note, it is missing Elizabeth and Mature)



Now, one of my biggest complaints is the fact that they omitted some really popular characters in favor for some of the B squad cast, that no one really cares about it seems. Three that I really feel could be substituted with better, more popular characters are Duo Lon, Daimon, and Raiden. ESPECIALLY Raiden. When you're in the process of a "rebirth" a character that was in the old Fatal Fury games, and made unplayable cameos in previous KoF games isn't necessary. If they wanted to keep the roster relatively low, that's fine, but don't waste space on characters no one has even played as. I can think of a few more characters that would be better suited for this game... like oh I don't know...



I will not stop bitching about this. The fact that these two popped up on the KoF Anniversary site in KoF XII style art and STILL haven't been announced for this game is completely absurd. And unless this recent delay was to put them in the game (which I doubt) then son of a bitch, I don't see them being as DLC because NO fighter has ever put new characters in as DLC, and the only way around that with out fucking up is if they include them in the disc and sell the key online.

But seriously, talk about missing some god damn fan favorites. Mai is the number one favorite female fighter in the SNK universe, and for obvious reasons. I don't buy one second that they didn't include her in the game to save the T rating, because suggestive themes or not, its still going to be rated T. Think if a Street Fighter game besides SFIII didn't have Chun Li, how fucked up would that be? Then moving on to K, correct me if I'm wrong, he was the protagonist of the series from 99 to 01 right? So why Ash Crimson and not K? Stupid stupid stupid.

Moving on, now to some other ways they might of fucked up this game



Iori doesn't have his powers anymore... and neither does Mature. This is because something in the story about Ash Crimson taking them or some shit like that. Okay fine, whatever, its fucking stupid but I accept it... IF THIS GAME HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE STORY! Which it doesn't! Theres no reason to completely redo characters like Iori's move set for a "rebirth" game due to something that happened in the forgettable story of a past fighting game. So yeah, no more cool Kyo like powers for Iori, no more long ranged attacks, just fucking scratches. This sucks because Iori was one of my favorite and most used characters in old games, and now its almost like he's a completely different character. For god's sake if this game is for the fans, give them what they god damn want.

Last complaint, and the most minor. Athena. I hate her "old" design. If you aren't familiar with it, it's her Psycho Soldier design, from the first game she was in. Okay fine, fan service, but in this case, it doesn't fit. She looks so out of place in the art style, it's ridiculous. Look at that roster picture again, everyone has anime influence to it, but god damn Athena looks like she's a straight up SUPER KAWAII HEEHEE MOE >o< V MOE~~~~!!!! anime stereotype. Fuck that.

Whatever... I'm still buying the game, but I'm going to be moody when I play it. SO TAKE THAT SNK!



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Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 13:23
Tubatic
Yeah BlazBlue IS pretty awesome.
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 13:38
Snaileb
What tub said

Sucks about Raiden missing.. But they MIGHT add DLC. They did it for soul caliber, no? Nice read! I guess I can just RENT KOF now... :(
covah's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 13:40
covah
Raiden isn't missing, I'm just pissed he's there in favor of others

And I think if I'm correct, Yoda/Vader were already on the disc for both copies and you bought the key to unlock them. Namcobandai does that alot
EtherealEcho's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 14:10
EtherealEcho
I'm also rather upset about the roster
WHERE'S MY KULA YOU... YOU.... ASSDSDSWHDJBSDBWUSLDBJS
I'm still buying it anyway but these changes aren't making me happy in the slightest. :/
Char Aznable's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 14:13
Char Aznable
This blog made me realize that I know absolutely nothing about the SNK universe.

Well, aside from Mai's boobs, of course.
BulletTrain's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 14:17
BulletTrain
Last time I was in an arcade I Duo lon and Raiden were pretty dang popular among the people good at KoF style games. That could have been a regional thing though.

I never really liked K' and Mai so I'm not sad to see them dropped. I have no clue why mature is in there though. Put in yashiro IMO.

Athena is Moe/fan service. That is the of Japan these days. They've completely lost it.
Y0j1mb0's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 14:20
Y0j1mb0
I share your sentiments.

Also BlazBlue is AWESOME.
Vigor's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 14:21
Vigor
Dude every game has characters that people miss from the past games. Sure I am pissed off as well at some things. Example Kyo getting his 94 move set sucks, no wicked chew combos. But every revamp of a series has flaws at first look at SFIV. But to me the game looks amazing, minus some things missing, and I cannot wait to play it.
covah's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 14:26
covah
@Char

completely understandable. the only way to understand anything about a fighting game is by using a god damn wiki site dedicated to it. I have no idea what the story of GG is. None at all.
covah's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 14:29
covah
oh and if I might add, I forgot to put a couple of "desu" in my SUPER MOE description of Athena.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 14:43
Chris Carter
No Rock makes this a no buy for me. Does that make sense, because he's a Garou/SNK 2 man? Nope! But I don't care, they could have put him in, and I want Blazblue instead.
Requeim's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 15:17
Requeim
WHERE THE FUCK IS ROCK HOWARD !!!
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 15:19
Shin Oni
1. you talked about blazblue...you broke the code.

2. Iori's still top tier apparently.lol
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 15:25
Shin Oni
oh i'm so breaking down your blog..

Mai actually is nowhere near numba 1 popular SNK chick. Most known? sure go with that. but favorite? far from it.

Raiden I agree. No one was really asking for a Raiden return...

and IMO Iori's new revamp makes sense. Just preparing him for the next game. No need to make 2 different Iori's if the later design will be the norm for the last saga. makes no sense to waste time making 2 redrawn iori sprites. Especially when they were already tight on time. Oh and Mature still has her powers...she's never even met Ash.

Daimon's pretty popular. Plus he's a staple in the KoF game IMO. Kyo Beni and Daimon or the Terry Andy Joe of KoF. Raiden could've been taken out for someone like Tizoc or Yuri.


The "rebirth" you keep spitting out isn't more on the characters as much as it was SNK needing to stop being lazy and make new sprites for their characters.
s0lesurviv0r's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 17:17
s0lesurviv0r
Mai will most likely be there, IMO. She's too much of a fan favorite, that's why she was in the console version of KOFXI. I hate Raiden beyond belief, but after seeing a few matches on youtube, I'm just slightly tempted to play him. Characters I will miss from KOFXII: K'(really hoping he'll be a hidden character, Crow's Bite is just too good), King, Shermie, Yuri.
covah's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 17:33
covah
I forgot about Yuri. She's one of my favorites. If SNK cowboyed up (Kevin Millar reference, for those who are cool and understand that) really wanted to make this THE premier fighter, they would have not cut so many people. I understand that the sprites in HD take a whole lot of fucking time, but no one is going to be satisfied with weak rosters. And no, BlazBlue's roster isn't weak because it is a new IP and has an excuse for only 12 playable characters.
covah's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 17:46
covah
I just noticed something with the stages int he game, the right side of every stage seems to be covered in shade. Its a cool effect to see when the sprites go into the "shade" but is it really necessary on every stage?
Kyousuke Nanbu's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 18:22
Kyousuke Nanbu
What the hell is wrong with Andy's head.
grafkhun's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 18:23
grafkhun
No Mai is dissapointing for sure, but she's not the number one favorite, but she's still very popular and her absence is a let down. Also, I have a feeling KoF XII is going to get the 'DLC on the disc already but you have to buy a key' method.
Jack Maverick's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 19:39
Jack Maverick
Fact: KoFXII will not have many characters that I adore as much as a large chunk of the cast in BlazBlue.

Fact: The above may not be true but I am going to convince myself of that otherwise.

Still, I share the sentiments despite my lack of knowledge on anything SNK other than Terry Bogard.
covah's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 19:49
covah
I've been looking through the internet on stuff like Facebook, Ignition's forums, other game forums, ect, and the demand for Mai is ridiculous. If SNK doesn't listen to this and see nothing but money as DLC, then SNK is plain stupid.
Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 20:43
Naim Master
I'd say one third of my gaming childhood was spent in my neighbours arcade(yay ! free credits !) playing KoF , but for more that I hate to say it , XII looks awfull and I've chosen BlazBlue over it instead , here are the reasons:

Athena's chubby , they have chosen the worst costume for Robert , Ralf now looks like a black Hulk , from what I've seen Robert lost his only mark of stability trough the series : the focus on kicks , NO MAI , they have a idiot like Raiden , no 'K , the second protagonist , Iori's clothes are 70's ( it's just that Iori was suposed to look like a drunk guy , not a freaking gay version of John Travolta) , Iori's moveset and personality was completely raped and I'm talking that with SNK standards of personality rape ,the game looks ugly and blocky compared to BlazBlue , the gameplay doesn't look like a KoF game ... I could go on and on about this , really...
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 23:23
Shin Oni
most of the demand for mai are just kids wanting to see her HD boobs.

serious players could care less for mai. Just sayin.

i'm satisfied. Mature's in. I won't be fully satisfied though until Kula and Angel are in a game together again.
flaming burrito's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 23:42
flaming burrito
Basically, my excitement for this game has dropped to nearly zero after blazblue.
bluki's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/08/2009 23:43
bluki
after experiencing GG Series (this poor man stil haven't got the taste of BB), i can't go back to other 2D Fighting games, those other fighting games are far too restrictive to my linking.
Zoel's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2009 01:52
Zoel
The only KOF i like is 96 and 98. So there's really no point in me in getting this. Unless SNK is making a Garou MOTW 2, then I'll pick it up in a heartbeat.
Toneman's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2009 02:49
Toneman
I've been playing this in a local arcade for the past few months. They didn't fuck up Iori, don't worry. He no longer has projectiles, but he still plays pretty much the same.
Kyo's still slighty more OP than he should be, and Kim is still sexy.
Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2009 05:19
Dan CiTi
Screw all that, this game needs Geese Howard.
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