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Dear Gearbox: Borderlands online is a pile of garbage
copilotlindy | 5:44 PM on 01.06.2010 28 comments




Dearest Gearbox,

I have not yet had the pleasure of making your acquaintance, so please consider me a humble fan. I'm writing you today on behalf of myself (and likely others) in order to rectify a most troubling situation. For reasons I shall expound upon shortly, it has become quite evident to me that the online portion of your remarkable shooter "Borderlands" appears to be a scrotum-hammering flameshit fucktastrophe.

I'm aware of the severity of this accusation, so Allow me to delineate:

I refer specifically to the timeouts my would-be vault hunting partner and I encountered when attempting to establish a public or private game. Regardless of who hosted, the issue was constant. And clearly this was our fault, make no mistake about that. I'm certain a triple-A title producing behemoth such as yourself has an unfathomably rigorous QA department, and every possible connection error was accounted for prior to release. The failing was almost certainly due to our sub-normal intelligence.

Despite our evident down syndrome, my compatriot and I endured. We pored over forums for over 2 hours clinging desperately to thoughts of your glorious apocalyptic playland seemingly within our reach. We forwarded ports, reset routers, disabled firewalls, tried fixes that worked for others but did not work for us. We restarted the game, tested, restarted, and tested again.

And as a brief aside, I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you for making the 18 distinct logo screens both blaringly loud, and entirely unskippable. Watching claptrap become dismayed at the non-functioning Nvidia logo remains a delight, I'd hate to give in to the temptation to cut to the chase and get into my game quickly. A tip of the cap to you.

In the end, we were left with no option but to employ a 3rd party piece of software titled GameRanger. I'm overjoyed to inform you that I have since had no issues establishing a game, and have been gleefully scouring and destroying every square inch of Pandora.

Yet there are those I've spoken to who brashly declare that the use of Gameranger should not be required. These ne'er do wells often say they should not have to be a "goddamn systems administrator to play a game (they) paid $50 to fucking play". I take great pains to explain to these ill informed few that forwarding ports and exhaustively searching forums for glimmers of hope is all part of the experience for those wishing to engage in online frivolities. My tireless adversaries then counter with: "Left 4 Dead works perfectly because Valve doesn't have their heads up their asses and actually spent time creating solid netcode".

I fear I am out of answers. I implore you, Gearbox: extend your benevolent hand and bestow upon me a fragment of your not inconsiderable wisdom that I might allay the antagonism of this naysaying rabble.

Or maybe just...I dunno. Don't develop in a fucking vaccuum.

Sincerely,
copilotlindy



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Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2010 17:54
Chris Carter
The game itself is garbage, in my opinion. It takes a week max to get max level, and once you're done, you're goaded into buying a steady string of DLC (the first of which came out in mere months, meaning it was stricken from the retail release). After ten hours or so, all the guns/abilities/enemies/environments start to feel the same.

I would have scored it a 9/10 after five or so hours of play. After beating it, a 6-ish.
copilotlindy's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2010 18:02
copilotlindy
@Magnalon. That's unfortunate. I'm still enjoying it right now, but I can definitely see how it could get repetitive.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2010 18:13
Chris Carter
It was one of my favorite games for about a week. I hardly ever just go out and buy a game for $60 cash, right on the spot, but that's what I did. Thank God for Goozex!
GiftofGab's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2010 19:41
GiftofGab
What were you playing borderlands on? Just curious. There are a couple of issues with the online for borderlands for me, but then again I am playing it on the PS3. For one, every once in a while, there are ridiculously bright light colors that show up everywhere, making it almost impossible to see while they are up. I had that server issue you were talking about once, but it went away after a couple of retries. And my personal favorite, the freezing/crashing errors that happen at some fun point, like in the middle of a mission or right after my friend picks up this awesome weapon, leaving him ready to murder people in the same room. The crashes have been relatively minimal, which is good, cause i really love the game.
copilotlindy's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2010 19:50
copilotlindy
@giftofgab - I got the pc version. It's disheartening to hear the issues exist on consoles too. Gearbox phoned this shit in.
Joseph Leray's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2010 20:00
Joseph Leray
@ copilot -- I had 0 problems playing over Live and I have a terrible connection and strict NAT settings, but I've heard that playing on the PC requires jumping through several hoops. That totally sucks.

I do have to counter Magnalon, though -- I really enjoyed Borderlands, and continue to do so. It's my favorite game from 2009. I'd say stick with it.

Good luck. :)
Gortexfogg's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2010 20:09
Gortexfogg
The unstoppable loading screens only get worse as I play more. At first, Claptrap was cute with the NVidia logo - now he just haunts my dreams.
nekobun's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2010 20:11
nekobun
I'm in Leray's boat; I've got the 360 version, and I've yet to encounter any of the problems mentioned in the post or any of the comments, despite having plenty of trouble connecting to friends in other games. Sucks that you've had issues, but I'd hardly call it a universal issue.
Sean Carey's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2010 20:12
Sean Carey
I'm inbetween Leray and Magnalon -- I loved the main game, and am looking forward to the inevitable sequel. However, I've found the DLC has been sorely lacking in incentives for playing.

I played on 360, so did not experience the online issues you have.
gatorsax2010's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2010 20:50
gatorsax2010
So I saw this headline out of the corner of my eye and thought it said "Dear Gatorsax," and I got really confused.

Since I haven't played Borderlands, that's about all I can add. Sorry.
MechaMonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2010 21:21
MechaMonkey
I have to agree with Mr. Leray. I've gotten plenty of enjoyment from the game, and have had zero connectivity issues with the online portion. I'm sorry to hear it's given you so much trouble, because I find the online play to be one of the game's best qualities.
Chris Carter's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2010 22:29
Chris Carter
I wouldn't be so against the game if Gearbox hadn't deleted posts/silenced forum users for asking legitimate questions in regards to connectivity/content. Oh, and with-held content like an "item stash" for DLC.
Scott Kevill's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2010 22:52
Scott Kevill
@copilotlindy, Glad to hear GameRanger solved your problems, and thanks for the mention. :)
topcatyo's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2010 23:34
topcatyo
I too have had problems playing Borderlands online. The problem being I haven't been able to at all. The lack of dedicated servers for the games means neither I nor my friends can make games and, even if I knew how to forward ports, I wouldn't be able to considering I live in a college dorm and, well, they don't let you.

Because of this problem, I tried downloading a thing called Hamachi which did nothing but not allow me to uninstall it and destroy any chance of ever having the computer use a wireless connection again.

I tried Game Ranger, but for some reason I join a lagtastic game, only to be dropped from it two minutes later. What fun!
tazarthayoot's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2010 23:50
tazarthayoot
I hate to say it, but it seems like the 360 version is the superior, because I've never had an issue playing with anyone, ever. Easy drop in/drop out, and I've yet to run into any issues of any kind. Sucks to hear the PC version has so much shit working against it.
TSuereth's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/06/2010 23:52
TSuereth
My two proudest moments in Borderlands, which I have difficulty ranking against one another:

- Finding a high-powered revolver that fires seven bullets at once (seven instant headshots!)

- Disabling the intro movies

Seriously, disabling the movies is necessary, especially if you're trying to debug a connection and/or system problem. Their length is just, unreasonable, Jesus.

In Vista/Win7, the WillowEngine.ini file is in My Documents/My Games/Borderlands/WillowGame/Config/ (I don't know where it would be in XP, does Borderlands run in XP?). You find the lines that say StartupMovies and delete them, or change them to SkippableMovies, either works.

I had some trouble playing online too, not hardly as bad as what you're describing though. One of my buddies who couldn't host a game, flashed his router with OpenWRT, and from then on it worked fine.
frozenbabylon's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 02:39
frozenbabylon
I'll throw my hat in the ring and say that I've had zero problems over Live. Sorry for your troubles.
bloodylip's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 06:38
bloodylip
My favorite part is that it seems every update to the game resets the WillowEngine.ini file, so I have to re-do that to not have to watch movies.
Pyroph's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 07:44
Pyroph
Far and away the worst loot game we've had. 10+ levels without finding an upgrade, and only having a gun slot/shield slot is not enough. It's a loot game with none of the fun that Torchlight/Diablo and even Too Human do miles better.
Insanity-Oo's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 08:29
Insanity-Oo
@ X360 users: Of course you're not going to have problems. If something you pay for doesn't work, anyone would (and should) start a shit storm. Free services on the other hand...

Anyway, more on topic: Borderlands uses gamespy for the PC, which isn't really that great of an online service to begin with (IE: it sucks).
SnatchTease's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 09:43
SnatchTease
Best story since Uwe Bolls last flick.
copilotlindy's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 10:24
copilotlindy
@Scott Kevill - No Problem! And thanks for picking up Gearbox slack and making Borderlands at least playable!

@ topcatyo - Yeah, I use Hamachi as well, it works for some games and is pretty handy for simulating a LAN. It doesn't agree with Gameranger though, so you have to disable it before GR will work.

@Tsuereth - thanks for the intro movies tip, that will be a lifesaver. So sick of that garbage.
PappaDukes's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 11:15
PappaDukes
I just assumed this was a post about playing over PSN. I was curious to see what you had to say about it since I've never had any problem playing over PSN. You can imagine the look of shock on my face when I find out it's about connection issues with the PC version.

That sucks dude.
Takeshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 12:16
Takeshi
I haven't had a single problem other than some minor voice chat issues. I'm fro Europe and I've played the game back to back with someone from the US. In 10 hour marathons. All that on PS3. I've heard complaints about the PC version before but those were about the design options that were clearly made for the console versions.

I've beaten it 7 times now, while playing by my self or online. I fucking love the game to death.
Wintersocks's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 12:26
Wintersocks
i just don't understand why they don't TELL YOU HOW MUCH PING the servers have, or even which country.
akathatoneguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 12:35
akathatoneguy
I have never played Borderlands, and rarely play games on my PC. That said, this blog was awesome. Very entertaining.

@ Magnalon- So a "6-ish" is "garbage" in your book? Hmmm...I guess you're not using the vaunted Dtoid 1-10 scale, then.
copilotlindy's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/07/2010 15:27
copilotlindy
@akathatoneguy - thanks, man.
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