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It's certainly not right to bash religion just because you're an atheist. Good show Coon, good show.
I may have skimmed your blog post, but I can tell from what you wrote, that religion is just that. A bunch of bullshit.
I'm sorry if I offended you, but going into a religious debate, which is all it does,causes issues for others, is unnecessary.
Keep Religion of Destructoid. kthxbai.
But then we wouldn't be the "edgy" video game site. All the kool kids do it, why shouldn't people hop on that bandwagon?
Nah, I hear ya dude, sometimes it does get out of hand, but this IS the internet, and remember, anonymity gives you the freedom to be a jerk-off.
Like I said before,(IRL)
The problem is not religion, the problem is our religious leaders, they are the ones responsible for the portryal of different religions, and they are the ones failing at thier 'jobs'.
Wanna know how I know?
I'm a muslim, and by God, the religous leaders are shit, all fanatical, money hungry, power mongering, hateful bastards.
I like to keep religion and politics far from my viddya games. Well, in terms of the community blogs here. I consider this place a sanctuary of sorts.
i wish more of us could treat the religious question with a little bit of empathy. people don't generally believe what they believe for no reason, or to personally spite you or whatever.
I think people pursue religion because it aims to be an easy answer to a very complex and ultimately indecipherable question: why are we here, where are we going, what place do we have in the big picture, etc. It's comforting and securing to have such a ready-made answer to such difficult questions, and although it might be seen as intellectually lazy, there's absolutely nothing wrong with having a belief system, or professing faith. 'Cos at the end of the day, people harbour these myriad feelings for the same reasons, right?
@PROTOMARK
You said it best. :)
Bravo. I aprove of this message. Also, titties, swearing, and small quantities of alcohol.
I find religious intolerance remarkable similar to video game fanboyism, it really boils down to people being unable to accept that other people are enjoying something that is contrary to what they enjoy, a 360 fan belittling someone who enjoys there Wii is really not that much different then a Athiest doing the same to a religions person (or visa versa, in both cases,) only that the later is on a much grander scale, and is often more hateful. People just need to except that others' enjoyment of opposite things in no way affects there own, and unless they're trying to force there beliefs on to others, they have no right to criticize them for it, no matter how ridiculous you think it is.
Both your blog and Protomark's comment made my head explode with awesomeness. I hear you man, being a Christian myself I sometimes find it silly how "atheists" will outright come out and say "Religion is a lie, stop babbling to invisible men and shit" even if the religious article in question is completely harmless or simply ignorant to certain areas of society. It's madness.
Also, in before assholes.
Im in ur blogs, givin u mai uninvited apinyon.
I see what you're saying, but I'll say the same thing here that I've said about pretty much every complaint people make on the Internet. You don't need to take it seriously. People talk shit online, and we let them get away with it because their inflamed opinions are entertaining, precious and harmless.
If you want to let it get up your nose, I won't try to stop you.
What Gameboi said except large amounts of alcohol... when the old lady is away.
I agree, if I wanted yet more Religious shitstorms I would go somewhere else, not here, Dtoid should be a bit more careful avoiding this sort of thing
also I don't care for alcohol, but I do love me some titties
I'm not fronting. I see the points you've made.
I believe in the flying spaghetti monster as my god and I codemn they who disbelief to eternity in hell where the beer is stale and all the stripeprs have VD.
The old "can't" paradox.
"You can't tell people what they can't do."
Good post coonskin. I feel the exact same way.
I agree with you fully!
But I find it rather amusing that people here are making themselves the victims, because the atheists are criticizing their faith. Yeah, because no religious person has ever told us that we are going to hell for not believing in the great almighty lord.
Just saying, thats all. You're not the only ones...
Agreed coon, and the same goes for politics.
Ere'body luvs titties.
And I agree, I don't diss religion unless it's jokingly dissing, within boundaries, or someone is just shoving religion down my throat.
Even then, I have boundaries. I have respect in others religions.
Also, Oreo's and Apple Drank are the best things ever.
basically, that's exactly what i think. i've learned that most people are sheep (yes, even the people on the internet that act like they know everything) and will agree with something if it's posted and they read it, so there's no hope.
you see this in the comments all the time: people are outright hating on something then someone says it's not so bad and the comments reflect that one.
Dtoid censors words?
@Falinter, yeah two words.
@Falinter
You haven't noticed the lobster milkshakes on the front page?
Bravo Greg, bravo.
Personally, I'm a mixed bag.
I'm christian. I went to sunday school and all that jazz although not of my choice but I digress
I believe in creationism and evolution. I beleive there is still a higher power, god. I beleive that Jesus existed but not everything he did was true to the bible. Those are my beliefs and I don't impose them on others like my opinion of videogames nor should they be peroid. I thought we were passed the crusades.
But enough of that; let's talk aboot videogames
videogames are swell.
What AgentMOO said.
I know of no man who questions his religious beliefs less or embraces them more fervently than the committed atheist.
As a completely un-religious person, I'll have to agree with you Mr. Coonskin. No need for broad stroke hatred on this site (or anywhere really).
Vidya games are my religion. Problem solved.
I'm glad that my main contribution,in all my years here, has been the phrase Lobster Milkshakes.
Also, agree.
Also, religious doctrine helps no one, but believing in something positive (god, buddha, allah, whatever) can't be a bad thing if it helps you.
'If there was a story about someone of any race killing in a videogame related incident, and someone posted a comment saying "Well, that's a (whatever related racial slur) for ya." out of honest malice, that would not be OK.'
Race and sexual orientation are not related to our personalities or sense of morality, and are therefore nothing to be ashamed of and completely off-limits when it comes to mockery or insult. Religious belief, just like political belief or opinion of any sort, is indicative of someone's mind state and opinions and philosophies and should therefore be completely open to attack.
I'm not saying that it's not dickish and/or annoying to outright attack people about it in the comments every two seconds, but it's just as justifiable as talking about how much you hate certain politicians or ideas.
What Rev said
Well spoken, Coon. I'm pretty much right with you. There's a lot of hypocrisy and unfairness on all sides, not just among Christians, as some would paint it.
And I can confirm that God also digs alcohol and titties -- though He may require some appropriate context for said titties. :) I'm not so sure about the swearing, but in lieu of a definitive answer, I opt to have a somewhat controlled potty-mouth... little bit of both worlds.
Random thought: It'd be interesting if Dtoid had a Christian on staff, and that Christian took Sterling-like jabs at an atheism-related story. I wonder what the response would be like.
Religious people are religious by choice. The other two groups you mentioned aren't. Not saying everyone should hate them for it, but by being religious you are embracing a set of ideals set forth by a book written thousands of years ago. So if someone disagrees with religion, it doesn't necessarily mean it's blind hate. Though most times it is, because the Catholic Church as a whole is corrupt, and always has been. :D
Rev said what I said before I did, though in a more articulate fashion. D:
I agree with Ashly's brother.
I love it when churches burn down.
I love Reverend Anthony.
I agree with Rev,. but I also agree with coon. There's context for it on Dtoid sometimes, but please, be sensible when you're discussing it. That's all I ever hoped to see here.
What Samit said.
I believe in the power of Raptor Jesus:
Thank you Rev. And all religious people aren't hypocrites, but all religion is a farce.
Good write up Coon. While I'm not religious at all, I think people should accept other people's beliefs. I may not always agree with their belief, and I will tell them that, but at the same time I'm not going to sit there and call them a dumbass for believing what they believe in because no one knows who is right. I really do enjoy listening to other people's religious views because it is pretty interesting sometimes.
I think that both coon and Rev. Ant are right. For the most part bashing peoples religious and political beliefs is wrong but in some cases(like when the persons religious beliefs are intolerant or harmful) then it is okay to criticize but it's never okay to generalize(i.e saying all Christians are homophobic and irrational or all atheists are arrogant and anti-religious.) I also agree with Pig Mask, religious intolerance is a lot like fanboyism only a lot more extreme since I never heard about a fanboy killing someone over which console is better...yet.
@Sharpless
If a Christian staff member made jabs at atheism, all the Internet Atheists (TM) would get their panties in a bunch, because they're a load of crybabies who are no better than the people who try to force their religion of choice down the rest of the world's throat.
Race and sexuality is not something you can choose, religion is. I think Rev pretty much nailed it why there's a difference there. Scary Womanizing Pig Mask's console fanboy analogy also fits pretty well.
That being said, nothing pisses me off more than the douchebag atheists who have nothing better to do than post "LOL YOUR GOD IS A LIE" every time the topic of religion is mentioned. There are some legitimate concerns about any given religion out there, especially when it starts to become intertwined with politics. However, the vast majority of religious believers are normal people who prefer to keep their faith to themselves. So are the vast majority of atheists. It's the vocal minority on both sides that make everyone look like assholes to the other group.
Not to quote myself, but...
1. Thou shalt not be a dick online, be it via Xbox Live or via Messageboard;
2. Thou shalt not act like a child when the media belittles gaming;
3. Thou shalt not engage in any fanboyish behaviour, and accept all criticism with humility;
4. Thou shalt get out of the house, be around real people, and have interests not related to gaming;
5. Thou shalt act at least slightly appropriately in public;
6. Thou shalt not own a wardrobe only consisting of slobby novelty t-shirts;
7. Thou shalt recognize that all gamers, and, indeed, all people are created equal, and treat them with respect;
8. Thou shalt find ways to express thyself without using words that disparage based on prejudice;
9. Thou shalt learn how to argue correctly, and accept when you have failed to do so with grace;
10. Thou shalt start treating games and, indeed, all topics as something where meaningful discourse is encouraged.
If motherfuckers would just read the ten commandments then they'd know. I mean, really, picking on religions? Who the fuck in their right mind thinks to themselves, "it's the right thing to do to pick out the spiritual legs on this person?"
Rev, you're cherry-picking. His core argument is that it's fucked up to say that kinda shit on this site. Whether or not his metaphor is apt is irrelevant.
Sometimes the internet makes me embarrassed to be atheist because we're pretty much the biggest piece-of-shit religion on the internet (and yeah, atheism IS a faith-- a faith that everything you "know" based on science is correct-- which cannot be grounded in any way).
And yeah I just basically called people religion-fanboys
I keep mah religions off mah internets.
Agreed. Someone pass this man a cold one.