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Why does playing underwater always suck?
cbebop007 | 3:36 PM on 12.26.2007 20 comments


So I'm playing some Tomb Raider: Anniversary, and have to start doing stuff underwater like I was expecting. And, of course, it sucked. It's not fun at all and the controls are near terrible.

This made me think...are there any games that do underwater well and make them fun? I'm not talking about games that are all underwater, but mainly 3D games that have underwater portions. They always suck. Tomb Raider, God of War, Super Mario 64 (Galaxy was better but not great)...

Can anyone think of a good example?



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king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/26/2007 15:45
king3vbo
No, no I cant. Underwater movement has never been good in 3D platforming
Spykron's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/26/2007 15:46
Spykron
i like the underwater levels in mario 1 & 3. but theres a water dungeon in WoW. i think its black fathoms deep. omfg worst thing i ever did in that game.
AngelicLiver's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/26/2007 15:50
AngelicLiver
BioShock?

No, in all seriousness most underwater levels are horrible. Whilst I can think of many 2D exceptions I'm lost to think of a 3D game with a water section that immediately pops in my head.
007's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/26/2007 15:50
007
Legend of Zelda? THE WATER TEMPLE? Oh c'mon.
kwaselow's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/26/2007 16:04
kwaselow
I have one word for you about how water levels don't always suck: Ristar
bottled dark's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/26/2007 16:05
bottled dark
aquaman!
Big Z's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/26/2007 16:20
Big Z
@Spykron - There are a few dungeons that you have to go underwater to find, but none of them really require you to swim once you're inside. Those dungeons are Blackfathom Deeps, The Steamvault, The Slave Pens, and Serpentshrine Cavern. I know I'm forgetting another Coilfang Resevoir instance but the name escapes me at the moment.
Clockwork's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/26/2007 16:29
Clockwork
I was JUST playing some underwater levels of Super Mario Galaxy and I got to admit it has pretty shitty controls.
Righteous Ice's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/26/2007 16:47
Righteous Ice
I've got to agree with Clockwork and ole 007.
braulio09's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/26/2007 16:52
braulio09
hmm i remember one that i thought was ok. it was a 3rd person game but the view changed to 1st person when you swam. dont really remember the name but i wanna say DMC?
DanielMachine's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/26/2007 16:57
DanielMachine
SMG's water levels sucked when you swam, but shell surfing was a lot of fun.
JRisJunior's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/26/2007 17:09
JRisJunior
its not just any game that has crappy underwater levels. EVERY game has crappy underwater levels. and if you say they don't and you clearly prove that the game doesn't have a crappy underwater level, you're still wrong.
Alanar's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/26/2007 17:22
Alanar
I don't know any good underwater level in a 3D video game. But I'm also afraid of water in 3D video games, so I'm probably not the right person for that kind of questions.
(Which leads me to the question why I'm commenting to this... Another unsolved mystery of life.)
ShadowXOR's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/26/2007 17:31
ShadowXOR
I had no problems underwater in Super Mario Galaxy, and I actually LOVED the underwater levels in Super Mario 64 (there were more of them than in Galaxy).
konchu's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/26/2007 17:50
konchu
I think the FPS control is the best for Swimming in 3D games. Never had issues swimming in TF2 as well as games like WOW do ok with it too as the follow the same formula. SMG like Mario 64 before just takes a little getting used to but it can be frustrating till you do.
F Whipple's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/26/2007 20:42
F Whipple
@bottled dark

I've actually beaten aquaman. Most mind-numbing game I've ever played
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2007 03:10
Bob Muir
Underwater levels have always given me vertigo and, occasionally, outright fear. I remember being terrified in Clanker's Cavern in Banjo-Kazooie, trying to dive all the way down to the bottom for a Jiggy and constantly watching those air bubbles slip from my grasp.

That said, I haven't had too much trouble with the water levels in Super Mario Galaxy, besides the unorthodox camera angles resulting from crazy gravity laws.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2007 03:10
Bob Muir
Underwater levels have always given me vertigo and, occasionally, outright fear. I remember being terrified in Clanker's Cavern in Banjo-Kazooie, trying to dive all the way down to the bottom for a Jiggy and constantly watching those air bubbles slip from my grasp.

That said, I haven't had too much trouble with the water levels in Super Mario Galaxy, besides the unorthodox camera angles resulting from crazy gravity laws.
Oninusar's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/27/2007 03:37
Oninusar
Aquanox2 was by far the KING of water games... but for others i have to say Duke3D or maybe (call me sadistic) Zelda:TP that was some crazy ass fun!

then theres always the Sonics: Labyrinth Zone, Chemical Plant Zone, Hydrocity Zone, Aquatic Ruin... theres a few others but my brains dead, cant remmeber the S&K zones...
cbebop007's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/30/2007 02:33
cbebop007
I guess to wrap this all up:

007: I guess I can agree with you there. Personally I kinda hate the Water Temple, but I know others love it.

Regarding SMG: I think the controls were fine for Super Mario Galaxy and never frustrated me, it just wasn't fun. Except for using those shells...that bordered on fun.

At least from these comments I can rest assured I'm not the only one feeling this way.
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