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Just an SD Gamer in an HD World...
broonor | 7:15 PM on 01.30.2008 23 comments


In this world of 720p gaming (finally 1080i/p is hitting a lot of games), I feel left in the cold. Games custom tailor their graphics (most notably text) to HD resolutions, leaving the non HD screens with fuzzy, unreadable words confusing the player--did I just drink a lot of laced booze without knowing it?

The old assumptions still exist. [url=http://blog.wired.com/games/2006/11/capcom_fixes_lo.html]Capcom fixed Lost Planet's text[url], but most games and developers either don't know or just don't care about the SD gamers.

So here I am, trying to play Folklore on my beastly 23" CRT-style tv I bought for my college dormroom. After 15 to 30 minutes of gaming on it; my eyes hurt from squinting to read the various chat boxes and menu items, stopping momentarily to wonder if I forgot to put in my contacts for the day.

So I thought I was being a shrewd consumer and bought a HDMI -> DVI converter. Huzzah! I'll play in at least some form of HD on my monitor for my computer! It handles better resolutions than SD and at the very least can play 720p if not more.

My cord arrives, and I plug it in, giddy to play games in the manner they were meant to be seen and played. Suddenly I crapped my pants as I found there was no display. Worried that I damaged my system, I headed to the Internet to solve my issue. Alas, my fears were confirmed.

Some of you more astute robots would notice my fatal flaw. I didn't bother reading up on the latest and greatest info regarding video from High-Def sources. In this case: High-Def Copy Protection (HDCP). My monitor wasn't compliant (see: have decoder for encrypted HD signal) so I saw a screen full of nothing by design, not due to something breaking.



So I'm out $7 from my experiment, and have lost a lot of enthusiasm for console gaming. I turned to consoles because I couldn't constantly upgrade my PC due to a lack of funds. But now, I can't even enjoy my console because I can't upgrade my TV?

I'm hoping to win a contest with a tv some time soon. Having my first child on the way really limits my spending even with the "stimulus package" and my tax refund on the way soon.

Looks like it's time for more flash gaming. DTD anyone?



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SourGr8pes's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2008 20:00
SourGr8pes
I think I needed a new prescription for my glasses after playing hours of Dead Rising. Can they at least make the fucking font 2 points bigger or something.

Wish some of these guys would realize that I spent most of my money on consoles and games instead of a new TV. Oh yeah, and student loan payments too. Curses!
broonor's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2008 20:04
broonor
What? another SD gamer? One would think that we're the only two in the universe given the lack of concern :(
10BobMarleys's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2008 20:08
10BobMarleys
Bite the bullet and buy a HDTV. You're children will love u for it. Do you want them to grow up thinking their Dad is a noob? I didn't think so...
Gorelord's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2008 20:09
Gorelord
buy a new TV. problem solved.
Skribble's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2008 20:11
Skribble
You can pick up some decent LCD TV's now for around $250-300

Put one on lay-away or something man, when you see the difference in quality you will love yourself for buying one.
Dynamic Sheep's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2008 20:12
Dynamic Sheep
Get it on credit. I got my HDTV from Walmart. It was on sale for $500 and I opened up a credit card account with them so it was interest free for a year. Pay $42 a month, and you basically got the TV on lay away.
Samit Sarkar's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2008 20:17
Samit Sarkar
Those of you who are suggesting that he buy a TV are idiots. He already said that money is tight, so why would you say “just get an HDTV”?

I feel your pain, jpitner...well, kinda. I have my own 26" LCD HDTV at college, but when I brought my PS3 home for the break, I had to hook it up over composite to my family’s eight-and-a-half-year-old 27" CRT. Luckily, I don’t play games with lots of text (I was mostly playing Rock Band, Warhawk, and Call of Duty 4), but it still hurt my eyes to try and read parts of the HUD in the shooters. What are you going to do?
broonor's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2008 20:26
broonor
Then again, I just bought my PS3 via payment plan over Christmas... So adding another monthly payment is something we can't do just yet. Maybe when I get this system paid off (some time around September... literally right after the baby is born heh)
bhive01's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2008 20:28
bhive01
That stinks man. I had an HDTV (CRT) before I went HD for games. At 1080i, things weren't too bad, but the PS3 didn't like 1080i for most things and so the next best resolution my TV could handle was 480i... SDTV pretty much. Text was hard to read in Resistance and stuff, but I soon convinced myself the leap to a real HD set was warranted. Like others have said, make every attempt to get one if you can.

Hell, perhaps try and sell your old monitor and your TV and put that cash towards the purchase of an HDTV/monitor, or simply a monitor with HDCP over DVI/HDMI. Who watches TV anymore anyway? Download your TV on your computer and watch it on your monitor. That or get a monitor that you can hook up to an old VCR for SDTV stuff. Otherwise, digital cable boxes and digital satellite boxes could easily be hooked up to a monitor over HDMI/DVI w/HDCP.

Money is tight. It always is. Expecting any sort of tax return? Could you work the corner for a weekend? Sell old shit on Craigslist/Ebay?

HD gaming and HD TV make it awful hard to watch SD games and SD TV. I think now that I fully understand why those with HD were complaining so hard when the Wii came out and was "just" 480p. Galaxy looks good, but on a big TV it looks like shit when compared to something like... Uncharted.

Good luck meng.
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2008 20:29
vexed alex
I bet you there was someone exactly like you when the first Color TV was released.

Allas, I can't really give you any advice. Technology moves forward. Some people are left behind. What I can say is that HDTVs are becoming more cheaper. Lucky for me I got a hand-me-down HDTV. It's not a flat screen or a DLP. It's a big screen (52 inches) and although it's massive, 1080i is awesome and I have nothing to complain about.

Just sit tight while the TVs continue to decline in price. If I may suggest Costco? They usually have great deals.
broonor's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2008 20:37
broonor
It'll happen. I know it will sooner rather than later; it's all a matter of convincing the wife of the necessity of an HDTV that really only is being purchased for my gaming (her not-so-often rock band sessions included). It's easy to say buck up and buy, but I just did that for a $400 80 gb ps3 (good deal woo), so it'd take quite the valentine's day and a few random gifts before she'd allow this kind of purchase lol. As much as I'd like to go with a 23" or so HDCP monitor for $150-200 ish, I'd rather just go 34" HDTV, and just murmur about the price being gouging since it's ~$700 for 11 more inches.
martinine's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2008 21:03
martinine
I didn't think hdcp was on anything but movies??? Did you get the right hdmi to dvi converter? a lot of tv's use dvi-d, but a lot of monitors use dvi-i (i think)

there are at least a few different kinds of dvi, so check your documentation on your monitor, and then make sure you have the right hdmi to dvi for your screen. hopefully that helps bc my xbox on my monitor DESTROYS my old sdtv, and I wouldnt want you to feel left out.
Vexxed's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2008 21:26
Vexxed
I use a VGA HD/AV cable to play 360 on a PC monitor, this thing here: http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=802129

Works like a charm.
Vexxed's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2008 21:30
Vexxed
Sorry for the double comment, but I forgot to mention it was Dead Rising that made me look into using a PC monitor as an HDTV alternative. I swear somebody paid them to make the font that friggin small just to encourage HDTV sales.
GuitarAtomik's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2008 21:51
GuitarAtomik
@martinine

No. I had that problem too when I first got a PS3 (though my converter was 25$ because that's all Best Buy had :[). It was SUPPOSED to be only on movies but they ended up applying it to the entire system.

It's part of the reason I sold my PS3 actually.
GuitarAtomik's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2008 21:56
GuitarAtomik
I should clarify too that the X360 doesn't have any HDCP protection which is why it works through VGA (or DVI). The HDMI input might have it actually but the other inputs are there (without it) so it doesn't really matter.

The PS3 on the other hand only has the component input (thus no HD signal) or the HDMI which is protected.
broonor's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2008 23:19
broonor
Based on how it seems the HDCP protection only applies to HDMI output, and not the component HD output, maybe I could finagle this purchase to work with my monitor, since it goes in component slot

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-zp-77-5-49-en-15-ps3+hd+vga-70-2jp6.html

Granted I'd need 100% proof before shelling out another $40 on this so-far failing experiment, but it seems pretty solid to me.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/30/2008 23:26
Bob Muir
This is one of the reasons why I didn't buy a 360 until I had secured an HDTV.

What you could try is a component to DVI converter, since there's no way to put copy protection on what media companies call "the analog hole."
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2008 02:20
pedrovay2003
@jpinter

Make that three --- I'm still in the SD world, too. I don't have the funds for anything else right now.
Mr Wilson's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2008 11:13
Mr Wilson
Sams club has a 32 inch Vizio for 600. I bought it, use it for my tv, gaming, and monitor, and use it. Like someone said sell your old tv and monitor and put it towards an hd set
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