well they can skip the PC this time and get it for the PS3 and play with the keyboard and mouse just as if it were the PC :( best solution I can see if they feel jibbed about the PC version.

HAHA! I was able to fap to myself. Just thought I'd try.

It's like they're deliberately TRYING to get people to not buy the PC version so they can drop PC versions in future to save money.

Yeesh.

This whole situation is just fucking irritating. Just hope and pray that this falls on its face and doesn't leak into the PC community entirely, that this "matchmaking" shit dies before it really sinks its teeth in.

PC gaming is fast becoming irrelevant largely due to the companies doing everything they can to screw over the PC fanbase.

I for one am glad its happening, fuck PC gaming, its a huge money pit, games are released buggy as fuck, they have security software that does nothing but infuriate the person that bought the damn game.

@Kyo
There's a ton of buggy as fuck console games.

Come on Mag, you know nanbu talks out of his ass, just ignore that fool.

@Ckarasu
Basically, yes.

As a general rule, first off, they can hold more players. My big issue with the PC downgrade is that they're going from big 32v32 war fests to 8v8 simplified combat. Now before you say "I like small battles", remember most dedicated servers do have options to have 8v8 if you wish, but the OPTION for more players (more community, more people to chat with) is there.

Secondly, you have modding. Now with dedicated servers, you can mod EVERY facet of the game. Hate the helicopter in Call of Duty 4, and think it's too cheap? You can turn it off. Hate a specific weapon, and think it's overpowered? Nerf it before the devs do (if they ever do). While this is very subjective, all dedicated servers have information accompanying them so you don't join a game you don't like.

Then there's the community aspect. How many people on your friends list, from matchmade games, have you saved? Maybe 5-6? Well, on a dedicated server, you "favorite" that server, and frequent it every time you play. People start to recognize your name; you start chatting with people whom you recognize. Your stats are saved to that particular dedicated server often. Rather than a random match-fest, you're subjected to the same community every time, and can build a relationship with them. Don't like that community? Find one of the thousands of different dedicated servers.

Basically, there's NO downside to them. Of course, you could always argue that a good mix of both is nice, but it's not really hard to "matchmake" dedicated servers yourself. There's a huge misconception that it's a hassle, when really, all you have to do is use the in-game filters to find a particular game you like. It's the exact same thing as matchmaking, you just have to click "join".

@Magnalon: I see. I still don't think it's too big a deal, but I suppose it is for most players.

@Ckar
Basically, it's a big deal because you get less control of your own game, the game will die years before it's time, and you'll make less friends.

Like Chronos said, a lot of these old ass PC games with dedicated servers are still being played today: that's VALUE! If I boot up a last generation console game; matchmaking will be dead.

Yup, I think I'll pass on MW2 since Infinity Ward couldn't give a shit what works better for PC gamers. Hopefully this game will end up like Unreal Tournament 3.

I see we've also got the usual ignorant crap about how expensive or complicated PC gaming is, and what's this? Majority of Destructoid PC gamers? lol.

@Blue;
PC elitists are just like console fanboys. We -all- hate them, but I wouldn't say every console gamer was annoying as fuck just because some exist, right?

What constantly increasing hardware expectations? Are we still that ignorant that this is still the common misconception?

@Blue
This isn't the first time you've said something without knowing all the facts in regards to your PC statements, and the majority of Destructoid is 360 fans, followed by PS3 fans. Hell, I'd say there's more Wii lovers than PC gamers.

I could say the EXACT same thing about a happenstance console experience. It's like going into a well reviewed restaurant, and pigeonholing the entire establishment because your one waiter was bad. It may taint your experience, but if you go again and ask not to get that person, you're going to get a better waiter.

Example bad experience similar to yours:
-I bought a 360
-I bought Castle Crashers, my character was deleted; it took them almost a year to patch that
-My 360 red-rings three months after I bought it

Basically, you need to find a friend who can teach you PC gaming. From what it seems, you bought like 3-4 games, had an awful computer that needed some work, didn't understand how to install the game correctly, and then had a bad experience.

Boohoo, its gonna sell millions

@Covah
No one's disputing that! :D

Here's how I see the dedicated server issue (hopefully this makes sense). Imagine dedicated servers are your local bar and match making services are a party at your friends house.

You hang out at your local bar, enjoy the company of people you get to know over time, and build a little community.

You go to a party at your friends house where it's loud and fun, you enjoy the company of some friends, maybe make some new friends, but when its done its over and gone.

Both are great experiences but they are very different. Now imagine someone closes down your local bar for good and says "too bad, but if you want to drink and hang out you can go to the party up the street." The party may still be fun but it's not the experience you are looking for.

PC gamers want the "local bar" multiplayer. That's how we've been doing it for years and we like it that way. Match making is great (I use it when playing my console games online) but its a totally different experience, one that PC gamers aren't looking for.

I was just playing TF2 earlier that my friend bought for me in that $2.50 sale and I gotta say, I completely understand the need for dedicated servers now.

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