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Hello Destructoid. I play a decent amount of video games and spend just as much time (if not more) reading and writing about them. Why? Thats a good question. I'll have to get back to you on that one. In the meantime, i'd like to play some games and read and write about them.

I've been doing a small amount of blogging in the recent months and I recently decided that if i'm going to be doing that, I might as well do it here where someone might actually read it. Who am I kidding? Noone will actually read it.

I don't really enjoy writing, I do however get an amazing satisfaction from spell check. I'm old school. I remember the day I got my NES like it was yesterday, 1985. Well, actually I remember the year better than the day. Give me a break I was only 5. Do you remember when you were 5? Ok then.

Moving on. My next console was the Sega Genesis. Some of my best memories of that era revolve around the "beef" between the Genesis owners and the Super Nintedno owners. This wasn't some bullshit make believe beef like the "East Coast/ West Coast" beef was. This was real beef. You know, the type were "ya mom's ain't safe to walk the streets". I still have the "SEGA" tattoo across the belly to prove it.

Next was the Sega Saturn. (i did have the 32x and the Sega CD but those are hardly worth talking about as far as I'm concerned.) The Saturn was cool. I remember being rather impressed by the graphics and falling in love with Tomb Raider. Not because of the girl like some of you perverts but because it was just amazing. Somewhere around this time frame I was feeling a little bit of envy towards the Nintendo 64 guys. I don't know why I got off the Nintendo side of things, it wasn't intentional. I stepped into the Sega universe with nothing but the fondest memories of my Nintendo days. But alas, what can one do when receiving such things as gifts. Either way, I was quite happy with my Sega Saturn. That was until a new friend introduced me to his Playstation. (Although that might have sounded gay, by no means was it meant to.) He showed me how much better Tomb Raider looked, and how much better Tekken was compared to anything I had on the Saturn at the time.

This is where it all changed. I was sold. I needed a PlayStation. Even if it meant doing the unthinkable. Getting rid of the Sega Saturn.

And so it was done.

Moving into the the next generation, my recollections aren't quite as clear. I remember having a PS2 and I remember buying my Dreamcast. I don't know which came first but I know the guy who lived upstairs from me could burn those Dreamcast games onto cd's and they would play like a dream. I know he would give me 5 games for 5 dollars, and I know he seemed to have them all.

Could the PS2 do that? I suppose I could use Google and find an answer to that, but I'm trying to prove a point. What is the point? The point is SEGA KICKED ASS and they were steamrolled by SONY! That actually doesn't prove that point in any way, but you know what I mean.

Many years pass

Despite having my beloved Sega Dreamcast tucked away safely in a bed of pirated discs in my closet I purchased my 2nd PS2. This may have had something to do with the fact the DC had long been discontinued by this point.

Perhaps an XBOX would have been a good choice at this point? I was hardly aware of what was REALLY going on in the video game world by this time. I was on the outside looking in. Clueless. Much like I am today. The only difference is, I now have an XBOX 360.

It's definitely had a huge negative impact on my life. My wife moved out. My kids never answer the phone when I call and I cant seem to keep a job for more than a few weeks.

Just Kidding. I'm actually a pretty cool guy and I'm just working on finding the perfect balance of time between playing COD4 and bangin' super hot models.

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I have not finished NG2 just yet, but so far I have to say the game is better than DMC4 imo. I wasnt sure if it would be but it became very apparent after the first couple of levels.

Devil May Cry 4 was a cool game. Using Nero to destroy enemies was pretty fun and the graphics were great. The thing is there were lots of times when I played that game when it just wasn't very fun. People say the NG2 cam is off but I like it way better than the fixed cam in DMC4. To be honest I don't think I have had any issues with the NG2 cam.

The levels in DMC4 were confusing and always seemed to frustrate me. I don't think there was a single level that I didn't get lost on. Half the time I would think I was moving forward only to end up in the same place I started... "huh?"

The action was great, but in DMC4 you maybe faced 3 or 4 enemies at a time where in NG2 it seems like 10 or more at times. Maybe if you could use Nero in NG2 you would be able to have the kind of fun that you can with RYU. That is a bad mother fucker there. Between running on walls, jumping up walls and slicing through enemies like a turkey on thanksgiving with an electric carving knife, NG2 is just more fun!



^

look at that.

Another thing about DMC4 was the lame ass puzzle attempts. If anyone remembers the level where you had to hit those spinning gyros into the, uh, I don't know what the hell they were but man was that retarded. Lets take a game thats best part is its combat and hide it between lame ass puzzles and horribly designed levels.

In NG2 its pretty straight forward. You walk up, you fight lots of enemies, kill them and fight more, which is good because it is awesome! Thats what I want to do! I don't want to move statues around from one colored tile to another.

If you haven't seen NG2 combat in action you really need to. In fact, seeing it wont be enough, you need to do it yourself. It is amazing what you can do to your enemies in that game. Not only is what you can do amazing, but the amount of attacking options is incredible. The variety between weapons is greater than I expected and allows you to mix it up even more than an extendable arm and a gun. (what a pussy ass gun that was by the way)

NG2 is the only single player game I have ever played that I get killed in as often as I do in a Call of Duty 4 Deathmatch, and I love it. If you are like me, you skip that kill cam the instant it pops up so you can respawn as fast as possible. Why? To kill the fucker who just killed you! Thats what its like here as well, but it gives new definition to a "headshot". (and you dont have to do your killing to the sounds of racist rednecks and singing 10 year olds)

Chances are if you like one you will like the other, but if it comes down to one, I would say NG2 is the better package. If you have already played DMC4 and havent played NG2 be prepared to be blown away. If you havent played either, you are clearly gay*. Thank You.



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I'm waiting for the PS3 NG2...
I'm loving NG2 so much right now.

I was never into the DMC and didn't get turned on by the demo for the fourth installment. Ninja Gaiden is just awesome and Ryu would destroy Dante and Nero.
@ SCAPE, good news. its coming to the ps3 on the same day as MGS4 comes to the 360!

@ kryptinite, I agree.
I remember my friend getting lost in ninja gaiden 1 because of unclear objectives and huge environments
Did they make its easier this time to not get lost?
yes. for one, there will be enormous pools of blood and stacks of severed limbs where you have been. you simply go the other way. Then, it is pretty direct, sometimes you can go two ways but one will be a dead end with a special item. really only one way you can. In DMC4 you could walk back to the beginning of the game if you're not careful.
I've played every one of the DMC games(and enjoyed them), but this is my first run throug a Ninja Gaiden game. I'm only on the 7th level, but it's leaps and bounds better than the entire DMC series IMO. Hard as shit, too. I feel much more rewarded by learning moves in this game instead of just button-mashing out stylish combos in DMC. I seriously want to throw my controller across the room some times, but the game is so bad ass it keeps me coming back for more. Also, much more fluid combat than DMC.
@big filth

So your saying that I will be buying TWO games on Thursday!?

I want the 1st one on PS3 but the damn game is $69, FUCKING $69 for a game that has been out for ages. Orange box, RFOM, condemned, UT3..those all got price drops why not NG? WHY
NG didn't get a price drop because it's been out for about a week.
@Joseph -Orcist- Leray

I mean the old xbox one they remade for the PS3 Sigma I think.....shit is expensive
^

I think hes talking about SIGMA?

whats the other game your getting??
Yeah Sigma! Maybe it will be cheaper in the US as I am driving down on Saturday for about 5 days for some vacation action (Spokane/Seattle area)

Metal Gear Solid 4 is what I will be grabbing I do believe!
Hey Filth...Where the fuck have you been??? Your missing the planning for the FL Narp. GO HERE! You gotta be there! Man you can catch a ride with me if you have to...

Oh yay for NG2 Im too broke to try it and i got bored of DMC4 after about 2 hours.
oh I gotcha. You are craving some ninja gaiden action? haha. I never played sigma but imagine its good. I know that NG2 is quite similar to the first NG so it will quench your thirst a bit but you need to try and get your hands on this game. Maybe a friend who has a 360??

I agree with you though, Sigma should be 29.99 at the most!!

If NG 2 was on the PS3, sigma would have had a definite price drop, but since those weasels know its a ps3 owners only shot at slicing and dicing with RYU they wont waver.
Craving NG action indeed!
I loved the PS3 demo but I was, and still am, waiting for that price drop...lol

My brother wanted to sell me his 360, but I turned it down too many PS3 games coming that I want so I can't go splurging my money around.
Ryu would shank the hell out of Nero. Seriously just the fact that NG2 has no giant fucking dice game and those gyro things. Also as far as I can tell NG2 doesnt make you go through the ENTIRE game all over again at the end just to make the game seem longer.
I agree that Ninja Gaiden 2 is better than Devil May Cry 4.

And I think the combat in Ninja Gaiden 2 is awesome, but I don't think NG's combat style is the best in the genre; DMC3 holds the crown for that.

I particularly enjoy DMC's infusion of the grandiose story of ancient rivalry, as well as maze-like level design and puzzles to break the action, but neither come close to my appreciation of the combat itself.
I've always thought of DMC3 as similar to the description given to golf. The competition isn't against the enemies, but yourself - your ability to improve jump-canceling, attack variety, speed, and timing. Its mechanics are perfectly designed for you to work against yourself for improvement with an almost infinite amount of variety to do it.

Ninja Gaiden games present you with a different but still awesomely rewarding challenge. You are faced with enemies that are much more aggressive and your mistakes usually immediately lead to some form of punishment. The gameplay is much more intense in that you're playing for Ryu's (your) survival and continuation in the game, and succeeding is a very rewarding feeling.



I was very disappointed in DMC4's criminal lack of variety in weapons. Instead of expanding the variety, the on-the-fly style system for Dante became more of a chore with the use of certain weapons (specifically Lucifer).
Its story, which I don't count as pivotal for an action game's success, was also underdeveloped and too far of a tangent to its potential in introducing a new main character. I was disappointed in it, but I don't blame the story for its flaws.
The biggest flaw responsible for its failure would have to be the removal of so many gameplay elements. I missed the large number of weapons, switching between 2 Devil Arms (instead of the 3 as seen in DMC4), acrobatics found in Trickster, etc, etc. For an action game, decreasing the variety in weapons was a terrible decision.
@Genfuyung -

I'm curious, since the game is great because of its action gameplay, would you really mind going through the levels again?

I wouldn't/don't - the story in Ninja Gaiden games isn't my motivation for playing, it's the ass kicking. So the "length of the game" doesn't mean much as I'll keep going until I'm done - which is long after a single run through the story mode.
@ genfuyung

"Also as far as I can tell NG2 doesnt make you go through the ENTIRE game all over again at the end just to make the game seem longer."

very well said sir...

@

Arttemis

yeah man.

lots of interesting points. I never played a DMC before 4 so I am just going off of what I just played through with DMC4 to my initial reaction to NG2. Both are fun, but I just think in NG2 its cranked up so high.
I got NG:Σ at Best Buy for $40.

I kinda miss the butter smooth frame rate of NG:Σ, but I'm having way more fun with NG2. It just flows better.

Didn't care much for DMC4 but don't listen to me. It's the first I've played in the series.
@ Scape

LOL
I only paid 30 for sigma. No way in hell I was paying more than that.
NG2 > DMC4

I'm picking up Sigma for my new PS3 tonight.
@ARTTEMIS

I wouldnt mind going through ninja gaiden 2 again BUT thats because the game can be played lots of different ways with all the different weapons. Not so with DMC4. When DMC4 made you go through all the levels all over again it was just a dragging,obvious attempt to artificially increase the length of the game. And it was unnecessary.

Thats what bothered me the most about it is that youve already put all this time into the game and then they say "Fuck it. We're so proud of our environments we're gonna show them all to you AGAIN before you can finish the story." It destroyed the pace of the game, and thats where NG2 doesnt dissapoint. Everything in it flows very well including animations and the pacing.

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