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Snowboarder in Brawl FTW! Just kiddin'.
Interesting lil piece of logic ya have goin' there, too bad it's too close to the release of the game for this to possibly pan out as you propose.
Interesting lil piece of logic ya have goin' there, too bad it's too close to the release of the game for this to possibly pan out as you propose.
Nice speculation. Of course I hope you're right, but I'm not getting my hopes up. Wii Mother 3 come to the VC just because Lucas is in Brawl? Probably not. But I do have hope that a demo for Mother 3 will be in Brawl, and that it will help get the game localized.
@anchorman84
Although I would rather have Phoenix Wright as the last 3rd party rep, Simon next on my list.
@Jonathan Holmes
Agreed. It is a slim chance. If you look at the Japanesse Dojo you'll see Mother 2 on the list so perhaps they'll only have Earthbound represent the whole series.
Now that I think about it, the fact that Mother 2 is only on the Japaneses Dojo is slightly worrying. Will we not get some demos in America? I can understand why they wouldn't have the original Fire Emblem (It to is listed on the Japanesse Dojo) in SSBB as it was never translated, but Mother 2 was released here, why excluded it?
Although I would rather have Phoenix Wright as the last 3rd party rep, Simon next on my list.
@Jonathan Holmes
Agreed. It is a slim chance. If you look at the Japanesse Dojo you'll see Mother 2 on the list so perhaps they'll only have Earthbound represent the whole series.
Now that I think about it, the fact that Mother 2 is only on the Japaneses Dojo is slightly worrying. Will we not get some demos in America? I can understand why they wouldn't have the original Fire Emblem (It to is listed on the Japanesse Dojo) in SSBB as it was never translated, but Mother 2 was released here, why excluded it?
@ Jonathan Holmes and Pig Mask
I doubt that every character will get their own game, but rather the entire series will be represented by one game. For instance Super Mario Bros will be the rep of Mario, Princess, and Bowser (and Luigi too, there's no way he's not in the game). Kirby, Metaknight and Dedede by Kirby's Adventure, and etc. With Earthbound its a little problematic. The Japanese version of the post there was a picture of Earthbound/Mother 2 as one of the game samples. Will that serve as the rep for both Lucas and Ness even in spite of Lucas not being in the game? It's really too hard to tell.
I doubt that every character will get their own game, but rather the entire series will be represented by one game. For instance Super Mario Bros will be the rep of Mario, Princess, and Bowser (and Luigi too, there's no way he's not in the game). Kirby, Metaknight and Dedede by Kirby's Adventure, and etc. With Earthbound its a little problematic. The Japanese version of the post there was a picture of Earthbound/Mother 2 as one of the game samples. Will that serve as the rep for both Lucas and Ness even in spite of Lucas not being in the game? It's really too hard to tell.
@ Pig Mask
That's the beauty of this masterpiece part of the game. If Sakurai is to follow his claims these games have to be released on the VC. Earthbound was already released here so it would be completely illogical to not include it in Brawl. It was probably only included in the Japanese post only due to its overwhelming popularity there. As for Fire Emblem, a translated version seems rather iminent to me. Perhaps thats one of the reasons Brawl was delayed.
That's the beauty of this masterpiece part of the game. If Sakurai is to follow his claims these games have to be released on the VC. Earthbound was already released here so it would be completely illogical to not include it in Brawl. It was probably only included in the Japanese post only due to its overwhelming popularity there. As for Fire Emblem, a translated version seems rather iminent to me. Perhaps thats one of the reasons Brawl was delayed.
@anchorman84
I didn't even think that it might herald a release of Earthbound on the VC. Now we just need the Secret of Mana, Chrono Trigger and Super Mario RPG and we'll have all the great SNES RPGs. It would make sense to include the Mother 2 demo only as it is the only game in the series that has been released outside of Japan and Ness is still playable.
It seems kind of pointless to fully translate the original Fire Emblem for the VC since it is going to be released in the US and Japan as DS remake.
I doubt all franchises will get a Masterpiece though as for some, like Pikmin, it would be impossible.
BTW, Great banner picture! Is it from Seven Samurai?
I didn't even think that it might herald a release of Earthbound on the VC. Now we just need the Secret of Mana, Chrono Trigger and Super Mario RPG and we'll have all the great SNES RPGs. It would make sense to include the Mother 2 demo only as it is the only game in the series that has been released outside of Japan and Ness is still playable.
It seems kind of pointless to fully translate the original Fire Emblem for the VC since it is going to be released in the US and Japan as DS remake.
I doubt all franchises will get a Masterpiece though as for some, like Pikmin, it would be impossible.
BTW, Great banner picture! Is it from Seven Samurai?
@ Pig Mask
I never thought of the problem Pikmin brings. That really changes everything. Unless they put a single world or level from the game (i never played it, i don't know the seperation of the game). It is a double layered DVD, maybe it can hold a small portion of the game. But nevertheless, we will never see GC games on the VC, so i guess its irrelevant in the localised Fire Emblem argument.
As for the banner its actually from Yojimbo. Close enough though.
I never thought of the problem Pikmin brings. That really changes everything. Unless they put a single world or level from the game (i never played it, i don't know the seperation of the game). It is a double layered DVD, maybe it can hold a small portion of the game. But nevertheless, we will never see GC games on the VC, so i guess its irrelevant in the localised Fire Emblem argument.
As for the banner its actually from Yojimbo. Close enough though.
@anchorman84
I could see them having the first day included on the disk as the masterpiece and then a movie montage for the series.
As for Fire Emblem, perhaps they could have a downloadeble demo of FEDS for the DS on the new channel they announced.
I had the director right at least. I love how both Yojimbo and Seven Samurai are like Fistful of Dollars, one of my favorite movies(although I liked The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly more) and Magnificent Seven set in Japan. (Although technically it's the other way around.) Do you know if the other two Man with No Name films were based on Akira films?
I could see them having the first day included on the disk as the masterpiece and then a movie montage for the series.
As for Fire Emblem, perhaps they could have a downloadeble demo of FEDS for the DS on the new channel they announced.
I had the director right at least. I love how both Yojimbo and Seven Samurai are like Fistful of Dollars, one of my favorite movies(although I liked The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly more) and Magnificent Seven set in Japan. (Although technically it's the other way around.) Do you know if the other two Man with No Name films were based on Akira films?
I think that there will be a 5 minute demo of Pikmin 2 in Brawl.
Don't you guys think it's possible?
Don't you guys think it's possible?
There will be a flood of games to the VC after brawl is released Im hoping especially for Earthbound :)
Also your kefka avatar = win
Also your kefka avatar = win
@ Jonathan
I think its extremely likely that will happen. It has to be represented in some shape or form.
@ Pig mask
That a good question. I'm not too sure if they were based exactly, but without a doubt there are some parallels (both stylistic and thematic). I know that after Fistfull of Dollars became an international successful Kurosawa sued Leon for stealing his idea, and demanded some of the profits. That probably prevented anymore direct reimagining of his films.
I think its extremely likely that will happen. It has to be represented in some shape or form.
@ Pig mask
That a good question. I'm not too sure if they were based exactly, but without a doubt there are some parallels (both stylistic and thematic). I know that after Fistfull of Dollars became an international successful Kurosawa sued Leon for stealing his idea, and demanded some of the profits. That probably prevented anymore direct reimagining of his films.
@anchorman
Thanks for the info! I was wondering because although I did see certain aspects in both, I didn't see anything as direct as Yojimbo/Fistful of Dollars and I didn't know if there weren't any or if was just to slow to catch them. Good to see another fan of great cinema on Destructoid!
Seeing your knowledge of Kurosawa, I assume you already know about the Hidden Fortress/Star Wars connection?
Thanks for the info! I was wondering because although I did see certain aspects in both, I didn't see anything as direct as Yojimbo/Fistful of Dollars and I didn't know if there weren't any or if was just to slow to catch them. Good to see another fan of great cinema on Destructoid!
Seeing your knowledge of Kurosawa, I assume you already know about the Hidden Fortress/Star Wars connection?
@ Pig Mask
I've heard of it, but unfortunatley have not seen the Hidden Fortress yet. I try to avoid theories and connections like that if i haven't seen the films myself. I only got into Kurosawa recently actually, so am not familiar with all of his work. I knew about the Leon/Kurosawa lawsuit more from the Leon side of the spectrum.
I have that shot from Yojimbo as my banner because i am completely obsessed with the badassery of Mifune and overall composition of the action sequences. The power and beauty of the final showdown haunted my dreams for weeks.
I've heard of it, but unfortunatley have not seen the Hidden Fortress yet. I try to avoid theories and connections like that if i haven't seen the films myself. I only got into Kurosawa recently actually, so am not familiar with all of his work. I knew about the Leon/Kurosawa lawsuit more from the Leon side of the spectrum.
I have that shot from Yojimbo as my banner because i am completely obsessed with the badassery of Mifune and overall composition of the action sequences. The power and beauty of the final showdown haunted my dreams for weeks.
@anchorman84
Hidden Fortress is great, I highly recommend it. I to got into Kurosawa from The Man With No Name trilogy, from hearing about the connection.
Although I love the end of Yojimbo, nothing can top the showdown in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. The music from that part was incredible.
This is reeeeaaaaly off topic though.
Hidden Fortress is great, I highly recommend it. I to got into Kurosawa from The Man With No Name trilogy, from hearing about the connection.
Although I love the end of Yojimbo, nothing can top the showdown in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. The music from that part was incredible.
This is reeeeaaaaly off topic though.
