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Agh, I've also felt your pain. For about a month I had NAT problems with my bawkz, but then it suddenly worked.
And don't even get me started about xbox customer service.
Maybe I should start a help and support group for people afflicted with online gaming woes.
Very lame. Microsoft owes it to their customers for all their fuck ups not to hang up!
On a side note: That's really cool that you live with your mate and both play Gears of War 2. My wife and I have to settle with private games on the same 'Box.
Port forwarding goes to one machine or the other - with most router firmware, port forwarding either should priority over DMZ. This would mean the DMZ 360 wouldn't see shit, but the one with forwarding would.
UPNP is supposed to automatically manage this so it doesn't require manual forwarding, but it's a very buggy protocol.
Agentmoo:Strange thing is, it all depends who powers on the console first. Who does that gets the open NAT. Every time i've used UPNP it's failed on me.
I might just pick up another router now, as i've had enough of this one.
Sounds like you need to get an additional static public IP address from your provider.
Exquistor: That's my next port of call. Calling up Virgin and seeing what they can do. It's a shame their customer service is just about as bad as Microsoft's.
Try disabling the DMZ and port forwarding and rely on UPnP entirely. I've had more than one console on my router using the same service, and I don't remember setting up anything special for it so the router must have been handling things.
If you have a compatible router, you could also try DD-WRT, which is just good (and what I was using when I had two connections to XBL and PSN).
Yes, exactly what Trev said - I always recommend DD-WRT or OpenWRT over standard firmware.
This is my biggest gripe with the new Xbox dashboard, you can't see what your NAT is anymore.
What the heck is a NAT?
NAT=Network Address translation.
Usually helps with data transportation, in the case of XBL the NAT decides what rooms you can join, your online performance or even if people can hear you.
Back when I had a horrible router mine was at strict and I could only join certain people and at times I couldn't even hear others.
@yukai
The way port forwarding works, only one machine can be open nat at a time if you have a single IP. Open NAT basically means that if the internet calls your house and asks for the xbox, it goes to an xbox. It can only go to one at a time because XBL is set to listen on a specific port.
IPV6 is supposed to change this shit, but for now you're SOL
Okay, I get it.
@Kyousuke
Since when? It shows your NAT only when it is moderate or strict, otherwise it just shows nothing when you go to connection test. Yah its a small difference buts its designed to be user friendly, instead of you being confused what NAT may be, it just tells you now if there is a problem with your router settings and what moderate or strict NAT means.