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I don't even think the distinction needs to be made. the girl in front of gamer is completely superfluous to me. I mean, if I hear a girl's voice on the mic in a game of BF BC2, obviously I'm a little surprised. It's not a common thing, let's be honest, but that doesn't mean I'm going to talk to them any differently or treat them any differently than the other people playing. If you're a girl and you game, you're not a girl gamer, you're a gamer, same as any guy, and that comes with all the positives and negatives that the title entails.
I thought it was pretty rare back when growing up, but when you get into online gaming, the case is really common. From my point of view, the girl gamer post are nothing but attention threads.
I totally agree. I, myself, grew up around my sisters and girl cousins who liked to play video games with me, so every time I hear a female voice while playing a game online, I treat the situation no differently then if it were a male. So I find it unnecessary when I come across females online who have to distinguish themselves as a "girl gamer" and try to defend being such.
We're living in a time now where we find more and more females playing video games, so I agree with you Y0jimb0, there is no need to make such comments about being a "girl gamer". We get it, and accept it (well most of us anyways).
We're living in a time now where we find more and more females playing video games, so I agree with you Y0jimb0, there is no need to make such comments about being a "girl gamer". We get it, and accept it (well most of us anyways).
SEXISM!!
Honestly though, if a "girl gamer" blog gets you this pissed, you need some time away from the interwebs.
Honestly though, if a "girl gamer" blog gets you this pissed, you need some time away from the interwebs.
Glad you got that off your chest Jimbo! ... and you know what, that's often what blogging is for, to get that niggling "Oh god, I hate that" feeling out, by writing it down and sending it out to the internets. That's exactly what those "girl gamer" blogs are... getting it off our chest (though I can't speak for others, but I know I often use blogging as a way to whine, rant, reminisce, or just write... but mostly for myself because I feel better having written it out).
Guys write whiney blogs about how unfair COD MP online is... how they hate this or that about a game, how unfair Jim's reviews on anything are. When a female participates in online gaming or in the gaming world they do come across incidents that just piss them off... and yeah, it usually comes out in a massive blog. You know why they all sound the same?.... because gaming sites are always populated by assholes who can't resist the "tits or GTFO" comments. The gaming industry treats us like we're either blonde girly girls that like pink ponies and DS games or alternatively they treat us like we don't exist and market entirely to men. We're stereotyped and classified. It's all the same crap and we get tired of it and spill it out there, and yes it does often all sound the same.
Jimbo.. you might "get it"... but the advertising execs who created the "insignificant other" pissed off because her guy is enjoying GoW apparently doesn't get it. The guy who had to ask if I was a cow with a fat ass on platoon chat in MAG apparently didn't get the memo about gals being no different from guys, have a look at our own Dtoid forums and the number of "tits or GTFO" comments any time a female introduces herself there.
When women write those blogs it's not usually because they're attention wh0res... it's usually because they're just tired and pissed off. Asking us to avoid the issues, never refer to it, ignore it, or not blog about it... that's just closing the doors to the boy's club and asking us to pretend we're men. Simply put, we're not.
Great rant! Hell, women get tired of seeing those "girl gamer" blogs. Things are getting better... a lot better... but unfortunately all it takes is that one online asshole or that one horrible ad, or a gamestop experience, or the Spike VGA awards, or devs lying through their teeth about why there are no female avatars and why all the vocals in multiplayer make reference to "men" (assuming that females don't play the game), to make us feel marginalized and tired of the damn boy's club. Gaming isn't a boy's club... most gamers know it, but maybe the rest of them do need constant timely reminders.
Blogging is for writing shit out... it's just unfortunate that most women feel the same way about the same shit that constantly happens. When shit stops happening, maybe we'll stop blogging about it... and write about sandwich recipes instead! :)
Guys write whiney blogs about how unfair COD MP online is... how they hate this or that about a game, how unfair Jim's reviews on anything are. When a female participates in online gaming or in the gaming world they do come across incidents that just piss them off... and yeah, it usually comes out in a massive blog. You know why they all sound the same?.... because gaming sites are always populated by assholes who can't resist the "tits or GTFO" comments. The gaming industry treats us like we're either blonde girly girls that like pink ponies and DS games or alternatively they treat us like we don't exist and market entirely to men. We're stereotyped and classified. It's all the same crap and we get tired of it and spill it out there, and yes it does often all sound the same.
Jimbo.. you might "get it"... but the advertising execs who created the "insignificant other" pissed off because her guy is enjoying GoW apparently doesn't get it. The guy who had to ask if I was a cow with a fat ass on platoon chat in MAG apparently didn't get the memo about gals being no different from guys, have a look at our own Dtoid forums and the number of "tits or GTFO" comments any time a female introduces herself there.
When women write those blogs it's not usually because they're attention wh0res... it's usually because they're just tired and pissed off. Asking us to avoid the issues, never refer to it, ignore it, or not blog about it... that's just closing the doors to the boy's club and asking us to pretend we're men. Simply put, we're not.
Great rant! Hell, women get tired of seeing those "girl gamer" blogs. Things are getting better... a lot better... but unfortunately all it takes is that one online asshole or that one horrible ad, or a gamestop experience, or the Spike VGA awards, or devs lying through their teeth about why there are no female avatars and why all the vocals in multiplayer make reference to "men" (assuming that females don't play the game), to make us feel marginalized and tired of the damn boy's club. Gaming isn't a boy's club... most gamers know it, but maybe the rest of them do need constant timely reminders.
Blogging is for writing shit out... it's just unfortunate that most women feel the same way about the same shit that constantly happens. When shit stops happening, maybe we'll stop blogging about it... and write about sandwich recipes instead! :)
Oh... and Jimbo, you know I love you! (cause I'm pretty sure I made you just want to violently throw up) :)
Aren't women used to being discriminated against by now?
That was a bad joke ladies. When I'm not being totally sarcastic and ridiculous, I'm respecting my fellow gamers. Whether they be male or female. Also, I've seen way more pointless annoying blogs on this site than a few girl-gamer blogs.
That was a bad joke ladies. When I'm not being totally sarcastic and ridiculous, I'm respecting my fellow gamers. Whether they be male or female. Also, I've seen way more pointless annoying blogs on this site than a few girl-gamer blogs.
I'm inclined to agree with Jimbo that 90% of blogs that try to address the female representation in gamer culture are pretty...I dunno what the word is. They're always so small in their argument when there is a fair argument to be made. There's this exclusive bubble placed around their gender that ignores a lot of the bigger problem if there is a problem to be addressed.
Otherwise what most often results is a lot of the same tired rhetoric which ironically does nothing but work against their cause because there are these myths about video games and women that I think a lot of people buy into and by perpetuating the myth you keep it alive and by extension keeping the illusion alive.
And none of this is to say that everything is fine on the ranch. There are definite gender clashes within the gaming community. They aren't exclusive to the gamer community but they do exist. The battles chosen however don't always reflect that and it's a bummer. Perhaps at a time they would have but certainly not now at a point in time where literally everybody on earth is playing a video game whether it's Persona or Farmville.
And lord knows I like the points Elsa and Beverlynoelle have brought up around here regardless of whether I agree with them or not. I'm not saying there shouldn't be discussion I'm just calling some more productive discussion. Which is what I think you're getting at Jimbo. What is being talked about really just isn't very productive.
I'll repeat because I just got out of a similar argumen on Beverlynoelle's blog and I'm preeeety sure they called me a sexist. There are definite gender clashes within videogames. But there's also a bit of this illusion or myth of persecution.
I mean I can go on and on. Even in my fanboy/troll days I was an advocate for equality and all that bullshit in the industry regardless of anything. But you can't call foul at every little thing and you can't pick your battles without fighting the war and when the war picks you don't be surprised by what you've taken on. It's dangerous to talk in absolutes and extremes but that's where a lot of people end up in their arguments when they're poorly defined.
@Elsa
If you get that sandwich blog going I got quite a few to submit. And maybe if you spin-off and do wraps...oh boy...I could co-write that one with you.
Otherwise what most often results is a lot of the same tired rhetoric which ironically does nothing but work against their cause because there are these myths about video games and women that I think a lot of people buy into and by perpetuating the myth you keep it alive and by extension keeping the illusion alive.
And none of this is to say that everything is fine on the ranch. There are definite gender clashes within the gaming community. They aren't exclusive to the gamer community but they do exist. The battles chosen however don't always reflect that and it's a bummer. Perhaps at a time they would have but certainly not now at a point in time where literally everybody on earth is playing a video game whether it's Persona or Farmville.
And lord knows I like the points Elsa and Beverlynoelle have brought up around here regardless of whether I agree with them or not. I'm not saying there shouldn't be discussion I'm just calling some more productive discussion. Which is what I think you're getting at Jimbo. What is being talked about really just isn't very productive.
I'll repeat because I just got out of a similar argumen on Beverlynoelle's blog and I'm preeeety sure they called me a sexist. There are definite gender clashes within videogames. But there's also a bit of this illusion or myth of persecution.
I mean I can go on and on. Even in my fanboy/troll days I was an advocate for equality and all that bullshit in the industry regardless of anything. But you can't call foul at every little thing and you can't pick your battles without fighting the war and when the war picks you don't be surprised by what you've taken on. It's dangerous to talk in absolutes and extremes but that's where a lot of people end up in their arguments when they're poorly defined.
@Elsa
If you get that sandwich blog going I got quite a few to submit. And maybe if you spin-off and do wraps...oh boy...I could co-write that one with you.
100% agree with this blog. I feel my bike rise whenever I read s "girl ganer" blog.
It's really nothing special that you play games whilst in possesion of a vagina and breasts and I feel it's been pointed out too many times. We are at a stage now where the mass perspective is that females who play games are the norm and it's just not worth shouting about.
Also, awesome intro to the blog. As a father myself I can appreciate your words on extended patience through parenthood. Made me giggle.
It's really nothing special that you play games whilst in possesion of a vagina and breasts and I feel it's been pointed out too many times. We are at a stage now where the mass perspective is that females who play games are the norm and it's just not worth shouting about.
Also, awesome intro to the blog. As a father myself I can appreciate your words on extended patience through parenthood. Made me giggle.
Pfft, women... Am I right? No, seriously, am I right? I have no idea what I'm talking about.
Also, vaginas look weird.
Also, vaginas look weird.
The samurai of D-toid imparts useful and wonderful knowledge once again. I am actually going to write a blog very much like this.
Well, aren't we lucky that this community is full of awesome gamers of both genders, then?! <3 <3 <3
If only people working in the industry (MARKETING...umm, but you already know how I feel about that) were always so enlightened...
If only people working in the industry (MARKETING...umm, but you already know how I feel about that) were always so enlightened...
I agree with you. I pretty much try to avoid "girl gamer" blogs which is why I typically feel very hypocritical whenever I write a topic on the genders because I feel like I'm feeding upon that thought of "I wanna be treated like you but oh wait treat me better because I'm a minority" philosophy that most women seem to have. Hell, even when I wrote that parody on David Wong's article, I felt dirty but in dense of it, it more or less attacks the fact that women themselves make it "difficult" to be a woman than man do but that's beside the point at the moment.
Tis true though. Gender is only a problem if people continue to make it a problem.
Tis true though. Gender is only a problem if people continue to make it a problem.
True story. Your not alone in your dislike for the girl gamer blogs. Nobodys being repressed and besides a few sexist comments most everyone catches shot from someone online at sometime. Let's just all STFUAJPG.
I almost made Jimbo throw up when I almost handed his ass to him on a rusty platter from the 70's in BlazBlue.
One of these days, Jimbo, one of these days...when I get my PS3 back...or BlazBlue comes to the PC....
Oh right, Blogs, Girls, Games. I'm not really so enraged or anything, but they all boil down to pretty much the same points.
They're good points, all of them, but I've just heard them before.
One of these days, Jimbo, one of these days...when I get my PS3 back...or BlazBlue comes to the PC....
Oh right, Blogs, Girls, Games. I'm not really so enraged or anything, but they all boil down to pretty much the same points.
They're good points, all of them, but I've just heard them before.
As someone with a level of patience only matched by you and Yoda, I echo what everyone else has said in the previous comments because I'm unoriginal and stupid :P
I'm glad that the hypocrisy of you posting this is not lost on EVERYONE here.
Just everybody except Elsa.
Just as you want to "violently throw up when I see yet again another "girl gamer" blog", there are females who probably have a similar reaction every time they come across another asshole out there in digital land. You get to share your opinion but they don't? Yeah, the subject is looking an awful lot like a dead horse right about now, but obviously its still a problem or it wouldn't be discussed so often.
Just sayin'
Just everybody except Elsa.
Just as you want to "violently throw up when I see yet again another "girl gamer" blog", there are females who probably have a similar reaction every time they come across another asshole out there in digital land. You get to share your opinion but they don't? Yeah, the subject is looking an awful lot like a dead horse right about now, but obviously its still a problem or it wouldn't be discussed so often.
Just sayin'
The thing about "girl gamer" blogs is that for every one that's genuine and sincere, there is one that's gimmicky and attention seeking for attention's sake.
I try not to throw the baby out with the bathwater when it comes to "girl gamer" blogs, but it can be hard to sift through the crap and find the gold sometimes.
I try not to throw the baby out with the bathwater when it comes to "girl gamer" blogs, but it can be hard to sift through the crap and find the gold sometimes.
I play singleplayer games whenever the option is available, and online when the game is good enough to let me suffer through other people. Sure, I am probably more than a little antisocial, and I don't want to chat with most folks and leave my headset underneath a sofa cushion most of the time, but honestly when I do play with other people I could care less who they are as long as the game is fun and they are not actively detracting from it. I could care less if I was gaming with someone that molested me as a child as long as they kept quiet about it and were fun to play with.
That's the trouble I guess with blogging and creating gaming communities. These people identify themselves, and I mean 'these people' to denote any person who falls into any shit group ever that has pissed me off. Considering as much, I can't make a running list of people that fall immediately into that group because frankly I do my damnedest avoid them, and I am scared of putting more than two minutes reading anyone's blog, let alone my own in fear of encountering a living turd.
Thankfully this community is a bit better than others, but I'll tell you what. I'd rather read a blog entitiled 'I am a sociopath that loves hentai and bad pork', than 'I am a grrlg4mer.' Not that you'd see either on this website, but it's all a matter of taste and the willingness to be manipulated by people who like extremely trite ploys within an easy to troll subculture. The point of this is that I would say hi to either of these people in game, let alone add them to my friends list. Why should I pretend that any other social situation, including the blogging community here, is any different?
Maybe it is? I don't know.
That's the trouble I guess with blogging and creating gaming communities. These people identify themselves, and I mean 'these people' to denote any person who falls into any shit group ever that has pissed me off. Considering as much, I can't make a running list of people that fall immediately into that group because frankly I do my damnedest avoid them, and I am scared of putting more than two minutes reading anyone's blog, let alone my own in fear of encountering a living turd.
Thankfully this community is a bit better than others, but I'll tell you what. I'd rather read a blog entitiled 'I am a sociopath that loves hentai and bad pork', than 'I am a grrlg4mer.' Not that you'd see either on this website, but it's all a matter of taste and the willingness to be manipulated by people who like extremely trite ploys within an easy to troll subculture. The point of this is that I would say hi to either of these people in game, let alone add them to my friends list. Why should I pretend that any other social situation, including the blogging community here, is any different?
Maybe it is? I don't know.
I just came over here from another site that recently had a huge influx of "girl gamers" come into their blogs. While the "Oh hai! I'm a girl that likes games! Tee Hee <3 <3" posts were easy to ignore, it was all the fawning that the male bloggers would do that drove me absolutely insane. The fact that every other blogger would vehemently defend these 3-digit-gamerscore ladies anytime someone had the balls to disagree with them about a game was enough to make my want to throw up on myself.
I don't know about girl gamer blogs, but I learn a lot from reading vegetarian gamer blogs. Did you know that vegetarians have more than just a vagina? They actually have properly working brains inside of their skulls, which is why it's weird that they haven't figured out how delicious meat is yet.
Every time you refer to yourself as a "girl gamer" you're only hurting whatever cause you're complaining about.
Gamerscores are for pussies.
Real hardcore motherfuckers have Steam ratings higher than 5...wait....
Real hardcore motherfuckers have Steam ratings higher than 5...wait....
I completely agree, there was one a while ago that drew my ire. There isn't and never has been a need for any type of equality study when it come to games. Whether is the 'OMG hai I'm a grrrl!" stuff, or the "Serious blog: Are girl gamers really gamers? Girl girl girl" stuff, its all just as unnessescary.
Every time I read a girl gamer blog I am reminded of my last trip overseas. In Pakistan at the time, women's rights groups were scrambling to get laws into the books to make the latest trend of bride burning illegal, this involves torching them or dousing them with acid while they sleep, and in fact killing them, legally. I'm not saying some asshat online wanting to see your tits is acceptable, but a bit of perspective in terms of the global women's suffrage movement may make you realize that your efforts could be put to better use elsewhere.
Please note that this type of behavior is not limited to Pakistan, nor is it a reflection of the Pakistani people in general, I apologize to any Dtoid members of Pakistani descent whom I may have offended.
Please note that this type of behavior is not limited to Pakistan, nor is it a reflection of the Pakistani people in general, I apologize to any Dtoid members of Pakistani descent whom I may have offended.
oh the terrible fucking irony. the hilarious thing is that you're being taken serious by some for you're bitching, complaining and flippantly writing off "grrl" gamers because you're male, while someone like Elsa would have to tread very carefully if they brought up the subject, lest they be labeled as a feminazi -- or worse -- an attention whore.
holy fucking shit.
holy fucking shit.
@bodybreak
Nice, way to be ignorant. I do believe this is Elsa's particular specialty on her blog and she has a loyal following of which I'm proud to be a part of because she says what matters.
Good try though. I thoroughly enjoy your particular brand of baseless assumptions and gut reaction commentary.
Nice, way to be ignorant. I do believe this is Elsa's particular specialty on her blog and she has a loyal following of which I'm proud to be a part of because she says what matters.
Good try though. I thoroughly enjoy your particular brand of baseless assumptions and gut reaction commentary.
@Xzyliac, i've read her blogs, dolt, and my point was that she does pick her words very carefully (which is why i respect her immensely). jimbo on the other hand did not, and has no idea (literally, he literally has no idea) what it feels like to be a female in a male dominated subculture. yeah, women are allowed to be a part of the online gaming community, but if they "out" themselves then they had better be prepared to be treated as sexual objects and no complaining; "tits or GTFO", oh, and those few that enjoy being treated as sexual objects?! fucking attention whore.
Only thing worse then girl gamers attention seeking is the multitude of sexually repressed teenage males who go wild when they encounter a real (or fake) girl.
@bodybreak
First of all Elsa does not have to tread lightly. In fact she doesn't tread lightly. I don't know where you get that assumption from. Unless you think speaking intelligently somehow means she doesn't have bite. She does. Especially playing the games she plays, and from hearing the stories I have heard, I assume she's just a normal person with an opinion. She holds back at the point of being an asshole as we all should and that's it. There is no different standard. If she wrote the same blog no one would piss a fit.
This might blow your mind a bit but I think it's safe to assume Elsa is a fairly normal person. As normal as Canadians can be that is.
What do you want her to say? Enlighten me. What would constitute as crossing this magical line that would suddenly get all of the gaming world in an uproar? Surely there is some basis for this assumption, no?
Pricks, dicks, douches, jocks, and assholes display this vulgar demeanor from time to time but in no way is this any majority. It's a "loud minority." A small group who stand out so radically they're red flags that become the focus of an entire argument. Instead of focusing on this small group of fucktards that will never go away there are definitely more pressing matters we can do to eliminate that stigma within our community. When we magnify the positive majority instead of the radical minority you realize that this cult of personality that's built around this one type of gamer is overblown and baseless. There is no reason to assume these asshats are the norm and there's no reason to believe they'll ever be gone. That's mankind for you.
As Beverly pointed out there are bigger issues within our industry that we should address. Better rounded characters, evolving personalities, things that put not just women but fucking people in general in a better and more human light. When you do that you get the gears in gamers heads moving and then you get them to think about the things that matter. Fuckin' character, personality and all that bullshit. That's how you can change things. You take these issues out of a fucking bubble and see them in their entirety.
First of all Elsa does not have to tread lightly. In fact she doesn't tread lightly. I don't know where you get that assumption from. Unless you think speaking intelligently somehow means she doesn't have bite. She does. Especially playing the games she plays, and from hearing the stories I have heard, I assume she's just a normal person with an opinion. She holds back at the point of being an asshole as we all should and that's it. There is no different standard. If she wrote the same blog no one would piss a fit.
This might blow your mind a bit but I think it's safe to assume Elsa is a fairly normal person. As normal as Canadians can be that is.
What do you want her to say? Enlighten me. What would constitute as crossing this magical line that would suddenly get all of the gaming world in an uproar? Surely there is some basis for this assumption, no?
Pricks, dicks, douches, jocks, and assholes display this vulgar demeanor from time to time but in no way is this any majority. It's a "loud minority." A small group who stand out so radically they're red flags that become the focus of an entire argument. Instead of focusing on this small group of fucktards that will never go away there are definitely more pressing matters we can do to eliminate that stigma within our community. When we magnify the positive majority instead of the radical minority you realize that this cult of personality that's built around this one type of gamer is overblown and baseless. There is no reason to assume these asshats are the norm and there's no reason to believe they'll ever be gone. That's mankind for you.
As Beverly pointed out there are bigger issues within our industry that we should address. Better rounded characters, evolving personalities, things that put not just women but fucking people in general in a better and more human light. When you do that you get the gears in gamers heads moving and then you get them to think about the things that matter. Fuckin' character, personality and all that bullshit. That's how you can change things. You take these issues out of a fucking bubble and see them in their entirety.
I've considered bringing this up in the blogs that spout the same stuff over and over, but they're so full of people saying "I haven't heard this before and this is revolutionary" that if I were to bring it up people would just be white knights and curse me out.
I noticed on person had that little info thing on the side of their blog say "I'm a girl gamer, and no I don't follow this stereotype or this stereotype or this stereotype..." for an entire paragraph. Oh, I get it, just because you're a woman you don't actually fit stupid sexist stereotypes. However, since I'm not a woman I follow the stupid sexist stereotypes and I need to be told off unprovoked. I'm sure that person didn't mean it that way, but every time I see that I can't help but think "Oh right, I'm supposed to either instantly hate you or be instantly attracted to you. Thanks for pointing that out, I'll try better next time[/sarcasm]."
When I read the actual blog post, it was actually really good and well-written. It was talking about shitty sexism in video game advertising, which there clearly is because advertisers believe all the stereotypes since they do so much coke that they think they've literally traveled back in time into the 80's. Her blog addressed the sexism issues without being inadvertently sexist herself, and in general I agreed with what she had to say. Still, though I saw that little side panel and I couldn't help but think a little less of the blog post because it was vaguely associated with that.
I have a friend who brings up the fact she has boobs with every subject and then says "What, are you gay?" whenever I genuinely don't give a shit. This is daily, and when I say daily I mean five times a day. When I say "she brings up the fact she has boobs" I don't mean "she brings up the fact that she is a girl". An example sentence: One time she said, "I know it's so surprising that I like to play Assassin's Creed because I have boobs and a vagina." I told her that it wasn't really all that surprising or a big deal and then she said of course it is and that I'd do anything to get in her pants. When I told her that wasn't really the case she just wrote it off like I was pretending. Alright, sure, whatever, I roll with it but it's frustrating because I can't convince her that not everybody fits into the stereotype she is placing everyone in, male and female alike.
In the end, are there people out there who really do immediately fulfill the bad stereotype of a lonely person in a basement with their Xbox that jump on any woman they see? Yeah, of course, but it's not really that prevalent anymore and it certainly doesn't need unprovoked attacking from someone who titles their blog posts "[something] From A Female Perspective Because I'm a Female Read My Blog".
I noticed on person had that little info thing on the side of their blog say "I'm a girl gamer, and no I don't follow this stereotype or this stereotype or this stereotype..." for an entire paragraph. Oh, I get it, just because you're a woman you don't actually fit stupid sexist stereotypes. However, since I'm not a woman I follow the stupid sexist stereotypes and I need to be told off unprovoked. I'm sure that person didn't mean it that way, but every time I see that I can't help but think "Oh right, I'm supposed to either instantly hate you or be instantly attracted to you. Thanks for pointing that out, I'll try better next time[/sarcasm]."
When I read the actual blog post, it was actually really good and well-written. It was talking about shitty sexism in video game advertising, which there clearly is because advertisers believe all the stereotypes since they do so much coke that they think they've literally traveled back in time into the 80's. Her blog addressed the sexism issues without being inadvertently sexist herself, and in general I agreed with what she had to say. Still, though I saw that little side panel and I couldn't help but think a little less of the blog post because it was vaguely associated with that.
I have a friend who brings up the fact she has boobs with every subject and then says "What, are you gay?" whenever I genuinely don't give a shit. This is daily, and when I say daily I mean five times a day. When I say "she brings up the fact she has boobs" I don't mean "she brings up the fact that she is a girl". An example sentence: One time she said, "I know it's so surprising that I like to play Assassin's Creed because I have boobs and a vagina." I told her that it wasn't really all that surprising or a big deal and then she said of course it is and that I'd do anything to get in her pants. When I told her that wasn't really the case she just wrote it off like I was pretending. Alright, sure, whatever, I roll with it but it's frustrating because I can't convince her that not everybody fits into the stereotype she is placing everyone in, male and female alike.
In the end, are there people out there who really do immediately fulfill the bad stereotype of a lonely person in a basement with their Xbox that jump on any woman they see? Yeah, of course, but it's not really that prevalent anymore and it certainly doesn't need unprovoked attacking from someone who titles their blog posts "[something] From A Female Perspective Because I'm a Female Read My Blog".
Thank you for this Jimbo. Gamers seem to be the holy grail of white knighting, no matter how ridiculous the statements made by a "girl gamer" are.
@Xzyliac, dude, you're completely veering from my point. i was noting (angrily) that what jimbo said was assinine and ironic. i'm not sure why you've jumped to Elsa's defense since i wasn't insulting her in the least, i was just pointing out that the feminist edge she takes in her blogs is not inflammatory and usually satirical in nature. it takes a certain kind of finesse to deal with minority issues without enraging/threatening dominant groups. the only reason i can think of as to why you've gotten so pissed is that it's a typical white-knight response to dealing with girls on the internet.
also, yeah man -- totally agree. better storytelling in games and character development is far more important than how society treats women. it's clearly been far too long since i've picked up a controller.
also, yeah man -- totally agree. better storytelling in games and character development is far more important than how society treats women. it's clearly been far too long since i've picked up a controller.
