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I'm a 26-year old English writer, formerly known on the CBlogs as Xandaça. I've been an avid gamer since I was a wee lad, gripping a NES controller in my hands and comprehensively failing to get past those infuriating Hammer Bros on Level 8-3 of Super Mario Bros. I've stuck with Nintendo since then (not for any animosity towards the other console makers of course - Nintendo just make games I enjoy and have grown up with), apart from a brief sojourn with a Sony PlayStation, several woeful attempts to play Half-Life 2 using a laptop touchpad and sporadically wrangling a turn on my sister's beloved Sega Saturn.

In addition to burping out the occasional novel, I'm a passionate critic, writing reviews and articles of films, book and games for my school magazine and university newspaper, for which I created and edited its film section. In addition to starting up my own blog, covering television, games and movies, I am also a writer for Destructoid's cine-geek sister Flixist. While primarily a film geek, the evolution of the games industry over the course of its short lifetime has fascinated me and provided vast quantities of content for some incendiary pieces of work - perhaps a few more might spring up on here?

My Favourite Games of All Time (because who doesn't love having a few Of All Time lists?) are GoldenEye 007 (which I still play through at least once a year to remind me of its glories), Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars, Gunstar Heroes, Super Mario Bros 3 (I don't know who told Shigsy Miyamoto-san that raccoons could fly, but I'll love them forever) and No More Heroes.

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PAST & FUTURE #1

This was not the midweek blog entry I had lined up (my review of Muramasa: The Demon Blade will have to wait until this weekend or next week, which will at least give me time to finish off the game with both characters), especially as it feels a bit one-note to be writing about Nintendo twice in the space of five days. However, the recent press conferences, in Australia yesterday, the US today and in Europe tomorrow, rang an alarm bell through my brain and it seemed ridiculous to wait until the party was over before bringing out the drinks, so to speak (this is not the only dubious metaphor you will read in this article, so apologies in advance – I've been doing a lot of novel writing lately and my brain is stuck in that mode).

With the announcements at today's US Nintendo press conference that Metroid: Other M and Super Mario Galaxy 2 are both confirmed for release in the summer of this year, with the new Zelda likely to follow at Christmas (if Iwata is to be believed), this strikes me as being a highly unusual move not only for Nintendo but for any company in a creative industry: traditional thinking dictates that new releases featuring your major properties should be staggered, so each can succeed without cannibalising the other's sales. Nintendo have been a world away from traditional this gen, but even with that in mind, this move seems unusual.

The conclusion that I can't but fail to arrive at is that Nintendo are using 2010, which is packed full of high quality first and third party releases for the Wii, to regain gamers' attention and trust, with a view to launching their next console at the end of 2011. Nintendo have begun to talk about the Wii's successor, albeit in very shadowy terms (it will be HD, continue with motion controls, have more features than the Wii), which usually only starts to happen when they have at least settled on an idea for what their next console will be. The final year of a console's lifespan is traditionally a wind-down period, which in this case Nintendo can cover with a few entries from their smaller franchises, such as Pikmin. Using this strategy also gives third-parties over a year to create some decent titles for the new console's launch, while Nintendo can upgrade their Mario Galaxy engine for a strong launch title. Galaxy 2 is supposedly mostly re-using old assets from the original game, so it's far from impossible that an HD entry in the series (Galaxy or something new) could be in development with an eye for a Christmas 2011 release, giving gamers' eighteen months to finish Galaxy 2 and regain their enthusiasm for a new 3D Mario backed by improved technology.



The argument against this would be that the Wii is still selling out and making considerable sums of money for Nintendo. That's true, but Nintendo know that they need to play their hand carefully if they want to keep hold of the new audience they've brought into the gaming scene. If those gamers get bored with the Wii, chances are they won't bother buying a new one, especially not if it's little more than a tech upgrade with a few added whistles. Nintendo need to catch them while they're still riding the Wii's wave of popularity: if they wait until it has crashed onto the shore without putting anything else on the horizon, the beach could empty quickly.

The unpredictability of these new gamers means Nintendo will have to rely once again on their traditional fanbase, at the very least as a fall-back plan should none of the new audience be interested in paying more for fresh tech. Nintendo covered this problem intelligently in their release of Wii Fit Plus, by marketing the game as an add-on to the original that cost less for people who had already invested. By releasing so many key games in 2010, Nintendo can revive gamers' interest in the Wii as a serious console, then use that momentum to carry them into announcing their new hardware, most likely at the beginning of next year. With that fire already burning, they could do a full presentation at E3 and launch five months later. Given Nintendo's recent enthusiasm for short build-up periods (the new Zelda will most likely only be officially revealed at this year's E3, six-odd months before it gets released if the Christmas prediction is correct, while previous titles in the series have kept fans waiting for years in between announcement and release), the idea is not as outlandish as it may first sound.

There's also the Natal and PS3 motion wand factors to take into account. If Nintendo aren't planning a new console and the current release splurge is nothing more than a short-term strategy, gamers will have absolutely no reason to continue buying the Wii once Sony and Microsoft enter the motion game: the console's control advantage will be gone, the tech will still be outdated and there will be no sign of any major new releases on the horizon. Nintendo have made a lot of stupid mistakes this generation, but their business-savvy has been spectacular and trumped the competition at every turn. A new console announcement would kick both Natal and the PS3 wand into the shade, especially if Nintendo have some ideas beyond HD (which they will) on how to grow on the potential for new experiences that the Wii has shown. Microsoft and Sony have both said that they want to keep the current console generation going for a while longer, especially given how much they've spent on their consoles and the likely cost of their entry into the motion control arena, so a Nintendo launch would go entirely uncontested (are M&S going to announce something else big so close to Natal and the wand getting off the ground? Unlikely).

I'd like to hear some thoughts on this speculation, as it seems to me that if I'm wrong, Nintendo could be walking themselves into a very dangerous corner, to the extent that I find it difficult to believe that anything other than a new console could be in their plans for 2011. That said, I look forward to the comments made at Christmas next year, when everyone will be able to look back and laugh.

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Gosh I hope so, I hate the Wii, and it killed my childhood love of everything Nintendo. Reggie Fis' you are evil.
I don't want new consoles, it's too soon.
I highly doubt it'll be 2011 that a new console comes out.

Why? The economy for one thing. To release a new console when many are on a tight budget would be stupid. It's why I don't think Natal or the PS3 arc will do as well as some think it will. Of course, that depends upon the games, unless they're the kind of games that EVERYONE can play, not just hardcore gamers, there won't be much to scream about. Of course, I'm sure Nintendo IS working on a new console, but it'll be quite a ways off till we even hear, or know anything about it. Nintendo of course said it would be HD, but it'll have to be more than that.

Second, until the Wii stops selling out, and the sales steadily decline, there's no need. The market isn't saying they want a WiiHD, if it did, then why would the Wii be selling out again? If Nintendo did put it out that soon, that would piss MANY OFF. They'd wonder why they bought a Wii in the first place if only 4 years later they'd put out a HD console. I bought my Wii at launch, and believe me, unless there were games I'd want on it, I wouldn't buy a WiiHD.

While I like HD games and graphics, they are not the motivating factor for playing a game. Think about it, after about 15 or so minutes, how many of you actually say WOW!!! That's beautiful HD!!! After you get used to the game's world/worlds, you tend not to think about it. I reveled in the beauty of BK:Nuts and Bolts, but after going through the torture that was building and driving vehicles, I hated it. And at the start of this so called HD generation, how many had HD TV's? How many are still gaming on standard televisions? A poll on I think Gamebiz shows that many still aren't gaming on a HD television, or may not even bother with the HD hook ups on their LCD's/whatever HD tv they have...

While the core fans will be early adopters of a new console, how can you branch it out? and with what?

A WiiHD many believe will get game companies to develop games for it. BOGUS. The Gamecube was on par with the XBOX, if not a little less powerful. But companies ignored it, so why would they change their minds? They'd say it's a kiddie system, don't believe me? Look at past articles regarding the Gamecube and N64, you'll hear kiddie often.

These new Wii gamers/new gamers aren't as unpredictable as some think. I think they see what they find enjoyable, and buy it. Of course Hardcore say that these "casuals" don't have good taste, truth is, they don't care what the hardcore think. Most hardcore gamers only seem to play the games heavily promoted on web pages/magazines that are tailored to "epic" games.

These core games coming out is what Sean Malstrom called the last of Nintendo Core titles. And I'm actually agreeing with him on that. This means, the games that only the "hardcore" or fans of Nintendo will buy, are the last to come out for them. Of course, I could be totally wrong.

But for Nintendo to stay in top position, they're gonna have to keep these new gamers, or ones who came back into gaming, interested. How can they do that? Motion Plus has yet to be fully implemented into games, so with little doubt, we'll see more motion+ games at E3. I think we'll be seeing more games that can be appealing to a larger demographic than these hardcore idiots demand. I don't care how many websites tout that the hardcore are in control of the future of games, and that those games are what sell, THEY'RE NOT. If hardcore games were such big sellers, then why don't they stay longer and higher up on the sales charts than just a few months? Sure, some of those games sell ALOT, but good marketing is a LARGE factor of why they have sold. The hardcore are a small base of gamers compared to that place outside their window, the REAL WORLD.

If this industry wants to sustain itself, it needs to look at what's most important, the customer, and how to get more of them. These ridiculous companies that think that making another Space Shooter/GTA Clone/Boob fest as the way to expand games are fools, and deserve the fate that many have gotten.

I'm not trying to hammer down on you Xandaca, you bring out interesting points, but I doubt we'll see a WiiHD next year. If we do, then Nintendo will have made the biggest blunder in it's history. For the Wii to stay successful, it comes down to one thing, Games, GAMES GAMES!!! And that's what Nintendo's top priority for the Wii NEEDS to be.
I'm not so sure its something as focused and deliberate as "Lets go get the core back, guys!". Though the net effect would probably be that, judging by the scads of generally positive comments from today's new articles. The thing that Nintendo has in its deck is the ability to simply make anew game a win back a few of their fans/supporters by just doing what they do: Make solid products.

And considering it from a scheduling standpoint...pff who am I kidding?: they're probably already working on the software for their next console for the last year or two, regardless of these new releases. They're good at the whole secretive thing! But any normal company would look to have their development docket cleared by putting out two sizeable franchise entries. Which for sure is a fine time to start on new stuff for the new console.

So all that to say, interesting angle, but I'm not so confident you're right.
Not gonna lie, I'm skeptical. I can see how this is a possibility, but I honestly hope it isn't the case. I can see them working on a successor, and doing design work, but a 2011 release? I dunno, I think they'd want to leave wii motionplus in play. Or at least have some compatibility between the wii and its successor. Releasing this soon after the wii gets that upgrade seems like theyre kinda giving the finger to the people who bought into that. Not completely, but still.

I dunno. It's possible, but it's unlikely, and undesirable. In my eyes, at least.
I know that a DS2 is due soon (wait for GDC), but Nintendo have no intention of doing a Wii HD. And even if they do so, it'll already be too late to get core gamers back. Its all about achievements and online play now.

I say leave Nintendo to their own devices. The day will come when casuals have had enough of them, and they'll want gamers that buy games back again. And if it doesn't, I'll still be happy with my 360 and PS3. Their games are cool but I can live without them.
I'm really conflictuated right now, on one hand i believed that Nintendo's plans for the Wii were very long term (taking the DS as the basis) they would keep it alive with 1st party software and the few good 3rd party releases until 3rd parties truly understood how to develop for the machine and began properly using the console's strengths to overcome the weaknesses (read: give the same effort on the Wii as they give in the HD consoles) much like it happened with the DS.

On the other hand i can understand your point because i saw the same signs and thought similar thoughts, i once said that the new Kid Icarus would be either a great launch title for Nintendo's next console or the software to revive Wii sales when they started dropping, and yes, it does make sense to be suspicious about a sudden quick release for ALL the games that are eagerly awaited in 2010 (even with 1 month more or less of separation between release dates) when usually Nintendo usually goes for 4 to 6 months between releases (oh God i feel like the type of fan Sterling criticized: never happy with anything). Also now that you mention Sean Maelstrom i remember a little quote from his site http://malstrom.50webs.com/disruptionchronicles.htm, it's about the subject of one of his future articles: "Disruption’s End: 'Why Nintendo Must Destroy the Wii Before it Destroys Nintendo.'" if i were Nintendo and was about to kill the Wii i'd make sure to go out with a big bang before the new announcement if only to mitigate the immediate backlash.

The true problem here is that there is nothing we can really do but sit and wait to see what happens, if the Wii stays, then simply enjoy the awesomeness to come this year and (hopefully) the awakening of 3rd parties. If this is the Wii's final act, then once again, simply enjoy and see if it's little brother delivers the same goodness the little white box delivered (at least for those of us that let the graphic whoreness go and knew where to look).

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