For those of you uninformed, Magnalon and myself have planned to take part in several Mega Man races. The idea originally spawned in one of my Mega Man blogs. Magnalon asserted that in Mega Man and Bass, playing as Bass was the game's easy mode. I didn't necessarily disagree, but at the same time I asserted that Mega Man was still a very effective character.
Thus came the idea for a race, myself as Mega Man and Magnalon as Bass. However before that we decided to start with a run of Mega Man X. The rules were as follows: No boss weaknesses. You had to take down the bosses with just a buster. The only exception was Sigma's Final Form. Though I'm hoping to get some video footage and commentary in for the originally proclaimed Mega Man and Bass run, we just did a bare bones stopwatch play in this case. The results are in as thus:
Wry Guy: 2 Hours and 36 Minutes
This time actually kind of sucks on my part. My time before hitting Sigma was actually pretty decent. Before him my time was around 1 hour and 30 minutes. After that however, I just sucked. To be perfectly honest I wasted about an hour on Sigma simply for the fact that I fought him like a retard and didn't keep in mind that once you get on his final form's hands, you can stay up there. I kept jumping off and getting murdered by the barrage of lighting and fire shots from above, and only brought one sub tank with me because I was trying to not waste time collecting everything. Ended up being counter-productive.
The reason I went for the stage order I did was to obtain the dash boots as quickly as possible in Chill Penguin's stage, and then the helmet in Storm Eagle's stage so that I could get the hidden buster upgrade in Flame Mammoth's stage. After that I went after Sting Chameleon for the armor upgrade and his power, so that I could use the charged up chameleon ability to run straight through certain areas of the game. I only used it a few times, though. I could have gotten a much faster time had I used it as often as possible... that and didn't suck dick against Sigma.
Stage Order: Chill Penguin, Storm Eagle, Flame Mammoth, Sting Chameleon, Boomer Kuwanger, Launch Octopus, Spark Mandrill, Armored Armadillo.
Items Obtained: 1 sub tank, 3 heart tanks, all upgrades including preemptive Zero Buster.
Magnalon: 1 hour and 30 minutes
Unlike me, Magnalon didn't waste tons of time on Sigma and sped through with a total victory. Quoted from the man himself, "It was optional accessories, so you definitely had time to go back and get some heart-subtanks! We should have a redo!" Very good chance that we will later on too.
Magnalon's biggest obstacles were the Wall boss from Sigma Stage 2, and Sigma's first form. If some of you don't recall, the wall boss is the giant face that shoots you with his eyeballs. I don't know Magnalon's exact reasoning behind his stage order, but he'll probably let us know in the comments.
Stage Order: Chill Penguin, Storm Eagle, Flame Mammoth, Spark Mandrill, Armored Armadillo, Launch Octopus, Boomer Kuwanger, Sting Chameleon.
Items Obtained: 4 Heart Tanks, 1 Sub Tank, Armor Upgrade, Boot Upgrade.
Stay tuned for the next race.
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... I want to race you guys in this now. The Mega Man X series in my element.
I look forward, for once, for a video with commentary and this from a guy who sucks at Mega Man games.
I'm like really bad at all the Mega Man games. But cool idea for a series guys :)
I really need to figure out how to edit video, or at the very least record this piece.
It was a fun run! No weaknesses is a total bitch. I would be up for a weakness run, 1 level go-through, set order, set upgrades run.
That way, we're ALL on the same page. We could have a community wide contest. I also can't wait for the meat and potatoes: Bass v. Megaman.
@Pedro
We should make a forum topic and do another race sometime in the next few weeks. I can post the perfect order.
I'm pretty damn slow at Mega Man X games, so those numbers look mighty impressive to me. Really looking forward to the next races.
Oh! Regarding the order, it's the one I usually run in upgrade matches, so I'm used to it. I also don't require re-runs through the level, and just pick up what happens to be in my way.
Yeah, it's definitely most interesting racing with different characters. It's too bad I can't think of a practical way to record a Mega Man X4 Zero vs X run, not unless we could get a solid PS1 emulator set up.
As for how to obtain the video, I found a program that'll just record straight off your computer screen. So long as your computer isn't too old, it should be able to handle it.
I can never get those things to work for me.
I mean I can never get PSX emulators to work, and Magnalon. Sure. Going in a set order and everything for the rematch would help spice things up a bit.
Mega Man X is the only game in the series I can beat in a reasonable amount of time, but I'm no match for you two.
Let me know if we get to either Banjo-Kazooie or DKC2. Now those are two games I can truly speed through.
Ooh, I like this idea. :D
Cool idea!
For PS1/Gamecube/so on, you can get a USB or built-in video capture card for less than 100 bucks to record video directly from a console (or alternately record through a VCR and then record from the VCR to the computer later.) That's how I made videos for my blog posts, back when I actually posted blogs.
Was the Hadouken upgrade banned from this run as well? I would have thought one of you two would have got it for kicks, even though it's mostly due to luck for it to pop up.
I dig this idea, and I hope that the commentary vid will see daylight soon, since I'm sure that will undoubtably amuse me.
@Jack: The Hadouken wasn't banned, but it's pretty time consuming to get and it's not totally practical. If you get hit you can't use it. I'd say technically a Hadouken would count as a boss weakness, so it'd be out anyway.
@Jack
Hadouken was banned, yes, because essentially as a 1-hit kill for bosses, it would be counted as a "weakness"
@Wry
...if you want to chat, X4 is definitely do-able the way you suggested. I have it for console as well:we can run the game off the disc onto the PC if you're more comfortable.
Is the vid cap program you're referring to FRAPS? I have it, but the video size it ends up recording for even 5 minutes of gameplay is MASSIVE.
I don't have Adobe Premier, either, so I can't compress it. Any ideas?
@Jordan
Banjo Kazooie would be long! As for DKC2, I'd LOVE that. To be honest, I used to speed run Donkey Kong Country 1 all the time via a dual box setup, but 2? That'd be fresh!
@Wry
If you want to make a speed run forum topic and link it here, we can suggest future set run paths and dates for them, video capture optional, with a mini-guide!
Future projects?
Super Mario World "no cape race" (my favorite!)
Donkey Kong Country 1 and 2
Mega Man X1-X6
Mega Man and Bass
Banjo Kazooie minimalist planned run? (It would be long!)
???
The Great Game Race Thread
I'll take all the info gathered in this thread and stick it in later. Anyone else that wants to take place in community races should use this thread too.
This is an awesome idea. I just bought Maverick Hunter X cus I needed some X. I like it.
Cool idea, you think I can get in on some of this action ?
@Falconreaper: Head to the thread I posted a little bit further up the page.
I'm not a Mega Man guy... however will give the new one a try..
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Racing through Mega Man X?
You people are insane. How did blood not shoot out of your eye?
Did any one of you cheated with the Hadouken?
My time would be pretty bad compared to you all. But...I'd like to see how you guys do a no-powerup run of any Mario game. :D Though Capeless is good too, I admit.
I did a speed run of X about a week ago. 1 hour 22 minutes, all upgrades
Maybe we'll hit you up for the next race, Slowey