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I've always been terrible with talking about myself, I want to be witty and give you something fun to read, but I never know quite how to say the things I want to say. At least about myself. I would like for my blogs to speak for who I am, but if that is not enough I am a gamer who majored in History in college. I enjoy reading and the arts. I like to laugh and to make others laugh. I enjoy being around my friends. A good conversation is always welcome, and an open-minded and friendly debate is never bad. I dream in color, and am terrified of heights (and spiders). Steak should be its own food group. There you go, a little bit about me.
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I do not own a single game in which I have snagged all achievements or trophies. There are games I have come close with, but as a friend of mine likes to say "Almost only works in horseshoes and hand grenades".



Normally the lack of completion does not bother me too much, while I would like to get 100% on a game, by the time I beat the game I usually don't care enough to go back and get every single item or meet every ridiculous requirement in order to get a trophy that, honestly, has no bearing on my life. Granted there would be a huge sense of accomplishment, but that feeling accompanies anything I finish, including video games so the extra excitement is something I can do without.

Usually. There are some games I enjoy so much that going back to get every achievement or trophy does not bother me, instead giving me an excuse to continue playing a game that I really love. One recent example of that is Enslaved, a game that is very near and dear to my heart (and if you have not played it, you should. It is incredibly well done), which I beat shortly after the game's release last year. I had not gotten every mask or orb, had not beat the game on hard and had not upgraded all my weapons, among other things, so I decided that I had to remedy that oversight.



Rather than looking in my trophies to see what I needed to get, I decided to consult an online trophy guide, since I wanted to do this right. With the guide near-to-hand I got to about half way through the game before I decided to check my trophies. I had already gotten a few more and was eager to see the percentage of completion.

To my horror and confusion I did not even have 50%.

So I opened up the trophies for Enslaved and started looking. I had most of the trophies, how could it be less than 50%! Then I saw it, the additions at the bottom of the list. Even though I did not own the DLC, Sony had been "kind" enough to add the DLC trophies to the original ones. Which meant that if I wanted to get a platinum trophy in this game, I would have to buy the DLC (which I had not even considered until this point) and play that as well.

Enslaved is not the first game this has happened with, Dragon Age: Origins did this to me as well, and it was just as frustrating with Enslaved as it had been with Dragon Age. While I enjoy the original games, I am usually hesitant to buy additional content, unless it somehow enhances the story and even then I sigh at the idea of throwing down even more money on something that already cost me 65 dollars (I am rounding up, tax usually puts the game at 63 to 64 dollars).



The added content becomes even more frustrating to me because I so rarely have the time or desire to sink even more energy into a game that I have already completed, and without buying the DLC, even if I want to get the platinum trophy on a game, it is impossible. Are the extra trophies added as a way to entice me to buy the DLC, a preview of what I could be playing? Or is this a sneaky ploy to force completionists to spend even more money by keeping them from getting 100% on a game? Either way, my reaction tends to be a defeated sigh and an "Oh well" as I drop the controller and move on to something else.

I will finish my second playthrough of Enslaved, but with my primary reason for a second run of the game snatched away from me, I will not be trying to get every single trophy. I no longer see a point.
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Yeah, I think that's kind of lame as well. It would be better if they either add those trophies to the list after you've bought the DLC, or give the DLC it's own trophy list separate from the main game.

I ended up buying Pigsy's Perfect 10 mostly because I just wanted to see more of the Enslaved universe. It's not bad. It plays rather differently from the main game, since Pigsy's abilities are much different from Monkey's, and it actually gets you to sympathize with Pigsy's character (I hated him in the main game).

That being said though, I still haven't gotten every Enslaved trophy. I currently only have 5 trophies left to get, but the tech orb trophy seems daunting to me. I'll probably have to start a new game and use a guide, so that I'm sure I don't miss any of them.
"Which meant that if I wanted to get a platinum trophy in this game, I would have to buy the DLC (which I had not even considered until this point) and play that as well."

I'm 99.99999% positive that a platinum is rewarded for completing just the on-disc content, and that DLC isn't factored into it. So, even though the DLC appears in your list AND affects your completion percentage, as soon as you've snagged all the trophies that came on the disc, you should get the platinum regardless!
Randy's right - a platinum is awarded for acquring all of the basic game trophies. You will simply have a Platinum with (for example) a completion rate of 77%.
Yes, the only game that I have 100% trophies in is Costume Quest, but I wasn't trying to get them all, I was just trying to get all the items in the games and luckily all the trophies were attached to collecting items and stuff like that.

It feels like a slap in the face, if I beat a game and it only says 42%, this actually deters me from revisiting games. I use to like completing games, for alot of games it wasn't too difficult to unlock everything. It just felt good to do it, like you got your full moneys worth.

Now it's incredibly difficult to get everything or borderline impossible. I don't like it that many times if I've purchased every item and unlocked every costume/weapon in a game it's not technically beating it 100% because, I didn't go whole level without taking damage or I can't get a double head shot. Now I'll just kind of beat a game and unlock bonuses every once in a while, but for the most part I usually just shelf it once I'm done, and move onto a different game.
@bbain hey thanks for the info on Pigsy's DLC that is honestly the reason I never picked it up. I couldn't stand him in the game (though his passes at Trip were kind of funny) but if it isn't terrible I may actually get it.

@Gnarly/Mrandy thanks for the info, I feel a little sheepish now for the rant, but really that just goes to show how concerned I am with trophies. That is good to know, now I have renewed determination to get all the trophies for my games!

@scissors You are absolutely right and I completely agree. It is incredibly daunting when you soldier through a game, or even just enjoy a game, but then look at the trophies and see 32% complete. The best trophies are, like you said, be achievable while going through the game without too much difficulty. I also like the games that have achievements that encourage multiple playthroughs, if I like the game it is just more incentive to keep playing.

I enjoy an occasional challenging trophy but mostly I just want my trophies to be fun, or make me chuckle.

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