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Issues that divide us: Left4Dead 2
Velt | 7:06 PM on 06.10.2009 6 comments


Clearly one of the most interesting things that come out from E3 has been the Left4Dead 2 “controversy”. I posted it in the past: I wanted Valve to talk at E3 about Half Life Episode 3 and what they are doing next; in the same post I said that I was pretty sure it wasn’t going to be a new Left4Dead. I was wrong.
I’m really not ready to give another 50usd for a new Left4Dead. That doesn’t mean I “hate” the idea of Left4Dead 2 or that I feel I should go and sign a protest group that says that a game is “too bright” (the idea sounds like “it has too many damn colors!” of the Diablo 3 thing). So please no fanboy statements here since I’m a Valve fan myself. I know that right now with Sterling’s posts this issue is too damn hot to get anywhere near it.

Is not that I haven’t enjoyed the first Left4Dead. Granted, it looks and feels like a sophisticated mod, that is what critics of the game say, but for me that is ok. Even for 50usd at the time it was very original and very fun to play, so the money was there for the title and I probably only got more for my money from TF2, but Left4Dead is second on the list. I didn’t care about the complaints of lights and textures although I can see the problems with the flashlights of my teammates. We can argue about the support from Valve to the title, it hasn’t been nearly as much as it has for TF2… but hey, maybe they thought the game was ok as it was and released something they truly wanted in the experience like the survival mode recently.

Still with Left4Dead 2 has happened something I call: polarization. In one bag we have the believers that want to play this game because they look at it and see fun and those that naturally just can’t stand the other side; the other side being the haters, those who don’t want a new Left4Dead because it is too early or because it gives pretty much the same thing.

And then the rest of us in the middle trying to come into terms with some posts about the issue, shaking our heads at some Sterling posts (dude I have nothing against you but you write and make all of us look retarded), and saying “they don’t get it”. You see, for myself is fairly easy, right now I stand in: I won’t be buying this on day one. I will wait for a weekend discount or a price drop… but this is right now. Maybe from here to November they will show me something really great about the game, something that I’m going to say “sold”, and that’s it, the game is a buy from day one. They are going to be showing a lot more of L4D2 in the coming months, so I’m all in for new input about how the game is going to be (new weapons, new special infected, etc).

For example, I know the lighting effects and textures didn’t look anywhere near impressive in the first Left4Dead, probably they want to fix it along with a lot of other things. I heard this Valve guy on an interview at E3 trying to explain that along the development cycle of the first Left4Dead they wanted to put so much in, but time was an issue, and now looking at all of what they want to put in they just cant do it on a patch.
Sincerity is a good thing from a developer. And you got some from Gabe Newell after E3: "In addition to the recently released Survival Pack, we are releasing authoring tools for Mod makers, community matchmaking, 4x4 matchmaking, and more new content during the coming months for L4D1, we also agree with our customers that there needs to be an interoperability plan for players of L4D1 and L4D2, as multiplayer games are driven by the cohesiveness of their community."

I just wish they say SOMETHING about Episode 3.... Please Valve, I’m in pain over here.



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Magnalon's Destructoid Blog
Like I said on the front page once before, we booked an interview with Valve a few months ago at E3, and I had all these Episode 3/Half Life questions ready.

The day of, we walk in the door, the entire fucking room is green, and Valve apparently makes nothing other than the L4D franchise now: it was pretty insane.
SuitcoatAvenger's Destructoid Blog
The geek ire comes from the fact that Valve was thought to be above this quick cash-grab shit that seems to plague the entire industry. They took their time, they released quality games, and they always seemed more interested in exploring other creative outlets than immediately going back to the web. Until now.

The anger comes from the fact that the gaming community feels tricked. Valve proved what we all should have already known; that they're a company, plain and simple. And that hurt.
viralhunter's Destructoid Blog
If turtle rock can make a legit game a year, good for them. I'm sure valve's main team, their TF2 team, their DOD team, and the portal team are not hindered, at least significantly, by this decision.
CWal37's Destructoid Blog
I was going to post something similar. I completely hear you on this. Everyone is complaining about L4D2, when what is driving me batshit insane is the lack of info on where Half-Life is going.

After the way it ended and everything. . .
Kyousuke Nanbu's Destructoid Blog
How anyone thought that Valve wasn't a company like any other makes me laugh harder than I have in ages.

No company cares about its fans, not a single one, all they want is your money, plain and simple, Valve was/is no different.

Well that and I have never enjoyed their games and think Steam is a big pile of shit, Valve is just a company I don't "get", people love them and I don't know why.

I did like L4D for about a 2 weeks but beyond that there was little incentive for me to keep going back and L4D2 is just more of the same(literally) since Valve re-uses so many assets, even the character designs look fairly mediocre, I can't say there was anyone that jumped out at me unlike the L4D cast.

In the end complaints won't matter, L4D2 will sell millions once again and people will keep sucking Valve's dick and proclaiming it the best company ever.
Velt's Destructoid Blog
@Kyousuke Nanbu

Steam works fine, is not GREAT, but is way better than other Digital distribution systems out there, the comunity, friends and everything that has is way improved since launch (iam a STEAM user since day one). Also they got a great library of games, so I dont really get why you say steam is a "pile of shit".

All they need to do is improve the download speeds since if Iam paying for a game I want full speed on the download.


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Iam a gammer from the harsh uruguayan jungle (we dont even have a jungle down here, too cold, go and do some wikipedia of Uruguay). I used to do a podcast in spanish about videogames at Radio LevelUp but I dont do it anymore... anyway those guys are there still making it so you can give it a try if you understand spanish
And i can say "�aca �aca �aca" and i know how to pronoaunce it well since im a spanish speaker, so Im a superior race.
A couple of idiots may find funny that I dont have good english grammar, but again, they are probably idiots since they only speak/write one language...

Most of my time in the internet is because of games. I love videogames so much that i sleep with my girlfriend and my ds, at the same time... i call that a "threesome" and my humor doesnt get anything better than that.
Mostly im a PC gamer, i was going to buy a 360 but faulty crappy hardware told me not to since if it goes RRoD here I would have lost my money, and as a man Im entitled to the sweat of my brow. I want to fuck the Wii and I believe the PS3 is going to be the first console in space.

In the "real" life (come on, internet now is part of our lives anyway...), I study medicine (takes a lot of time and I cant spend enough of my time playing videogames). Is not what you would call a marriage made in heaven, if I wanted to game more I should have sutdy something related to pc�s, but I grown surrounded by computers and stuff so I chose the bio stuff instead. Anyway, little time to play video games if you dont want my biographical shit.

And the main reasson I play games for the story behind them. I love well written stories like Half Life series, of course Portal (kind of a Valve fan). Other great games include World Of Warcraft (not currently playing, actually I was never hardcore, but I enjoyed the experience a lot), and of course the classics like System Shock 2. Other great titles had stuck with me over the years, classics adventure games like Monkey Island, Indiana Jones and Grim Fandango.

So, best game experiences:
Half Life 2 (and the original Half Life of course).
System Shock 2
Grim Fandango
Indiana Jones and the Fate Of Atlantis
Monkey Island

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