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Isn't playing online considered socializing? Granted, it's not personal, and it shouldn't be your only or majority method to talk to people, but it is a way.
Online has changed me. A lot of my friends that game are starting to find online gaming on consoles. This is just my personal opinion, but I mostly hate split-screen games. The only games I'll let it fly is maybe split-screen online games (but those are rare) and that's because you can actually work as a team. Screen-looking isn't annoying on those. And the reason I hate them is because my TV has spoiled me. It's 52 inches of HD glory. When I play split-screen I feel as though I'm getting a gimped experience.
And, really. You can't afford Live? You can buy a one month for under $5. Just don't eat out for a day and you're set.
There are games that need local multiplayer and those that really don't need it. I myself wouldn't care if it didn't (some of the time), but I don't understand why developers would take it out.
I have noticed this over the past couple of years. Many games just don't have "local" multiplayer because developers see it as old hat, online is where the action is. This annoyed a lot in Motorstorm on the PS3. It was a great launch title and I wanted to get my friends invovled that didn't have PS3's but I couldn't race against them which is not really fair.
Conversely we are seeing a huge rise in Co-op these days for some odd reason. I suppose this could be to make up for the lack of local multiplayer but I have rarely enjoyed co-op in games so it makes no difference to me.
I don't think you are expecting too much at all and I agree with you.
I hate not being able to play some of these "online only" games with my girl friend, we go out fo our way to buy games that we can play together and they mostly suck big time (Fantastic 4 PS3, Dark Kingdom PS3...etc).
We need better games that let you play with REAL friends.
This stuff really pisses me off. There really is no reason for most games with online multiplayer not to have some kind of split screen option for at least two player.
Crackdown and Saint's Row, I'm looking at you.
As for you, Vanima, as you own a 360, may I recommend the excellent value and excellent fun title Earth Defense Force 2017? You can destroy shit all day long with your husband and a split screen.
Split screen needs more love.
I agree wholeheartedly with you. Online co-op is fast becoming the template for 2 player games and it's not right.
It's ironic that split screen multiplayer modes are becoming obsolete, right at the time when many gamers are playing on mini cinema screen sized TV's. Maybe it's just my age, I should accept that the halcyon days of playing Goldeneye 4 player split screen on a 14" TV are over.
Agreed, what ever happened to the mario cart 64 days :[. Even though i have xbl I do wish I coluld just play with 3 other buddies sometimes rather than going online and playing with strangers while passing around the controller after each match..plus i have stats to worry about...BRING BACK SPLITSCREEN!!
@boxdos
mariocart 64 days where awsome and i still play that shit at my cousins house
and this is one of the many reasons i love RockBand, cause its still one of the few games i can play localy and together
Welcomes! Good to see another girl in the ranks :-)
Sadly, online gaming is a huge thing now. Bioshock got complaints because of its lack of multiplayer action. Bioshock didn't need multiplayer, so whatever.
Call of Duty 4 is fantastic single player and so are many other multiplayer famous games (halo included). It's just a shame that in this day and age there are still people not playing :( You need to try gold out if you ever have time. If you connect your xbox off I can give you a time card if you need.
Lately, I've had this gigantic urge to play Rampage for the N64 with two buddies. Just sit down and play through all 120+ levels in one sitting.
We need more offline multiplayer. I've argued this for years. :)
I personally love all spectrums of the multiplayer world. I think Nintendo is on a slow start w/ the 'family fun' games.. they have a few but not many. I think once smash bros and mario kart wii comes out things will change. Also they have a huge position w/ the DS and its local / wifi play aswell which I enjoy playing regularly with friends and my nephew.
When it comes to hardcore multiplayer gaming tho I will stick w/ my pc like many stick w/ the 360 in the console stream. The only unfortunate thing w/ the 360 side is for someone in your position.. you cant play online without paying for a gold account. With a PC, Wii, or PS3(ithink) you have no need for subscription to play games online.
Now when it comes to multiplayer family games on consoles, I think the 360 has focused more on the internet aspect of it w/ live and all that jazz, they have a few games you can play locally but not many. And the Nintendo Wii has some great games to play with family and friends.. alot of them are quite enjoying when you are playing with 4 people. But once Smash Bros and Mario Kart come out I think its going to change on nintendos end and you are going to see more people playing around one console aswell as online. And as I said before the Nintendo DS has great reach in multiplayer capabilitys both locally and over the internets.
Its a convience to beable to play with people online especially if you have friends so far away. But its also good to have that person in the same room as you every now and then to have some good ol fun.
Its ranges from personal prefrence to how the industry has grown. Xbox Live has really pushed the bar up with connecting and playing with people all across the world, and I think that gets most of the attention because xbox live is really the first system to allow consoles (xbox) to connect with eachother on such a massive scale.
Personally there are plenty of games that I love playing locally with friends on my wii and DS, the selection isnt as dry as many people think.. but also theres a mentality that some of these games arnt really fun.. well with 4 people its a totaly different experience.
@vexed alex
I could afford Gold if I wanted to pay for it each individual month but in the long run that costs more than buying a year subscription, which comes with a free month. So no right now I can't afford to buy the year one. Money's tight 'til I start my new job. Maybe after that I'll get in on the online action.
@DrNutt
Yay for recommendations. I'll have to look into that game. Destroying things is almost always fun.
@moonkid
I miss Goldeneye so much. That was my first shooter and one of the best at that. Now if only someone could pull a miracle out of their rear and get that on a console as a download.
@atheistium
Thank you very much for the kind offer but I'd feel bad taking you up on it. Like I said earlier within the month or so hopefully I'll be online. ;) Maybe I'll see you there?
@Hamza CTZ Aziz
Mmmm Rampage. I'd love to sit down and give that a play again.
Hamza, have you just been to watch Cloverfield by any chance?
moonkid: haha, actually, no. I haven't seen it yet. This desire has been building up since before I heard about Cloverfield :D
Not only should more game have co-op game play, but they should also offer AI-controlled bots to round out local matches if you are playing with your friends in your living room.
I dunno how many times my roommate has wanted to sit and play CoD4 with me but can't because there is no co-op option whatsoever and playing one on one matches are boring. If Perfect Dark on the N64 could support bots (what was it then? 12 or something?) then there is no reason besides laziness that developers can't implement them in more current-gen games.
Not only would this add legit value to the product for those without online subscriptions (not to mention to some players who may not like being called fagots by strangers online, especially for younger players) but it'd certainly help revive the local multiplayer game. Sitting around an N64 playing Goldeneye and Perfect Dark are some of my fondest gaming memories and there is nothing out there that does that anymore, which is sad.
yeah this is definitely a trend that's pissed me off in recent years. honestly, I often don't give a shit about playing with random people online. I want to be able to play games on the same console and the same damn tv with my friends, and I can't because alot of games are online multiplayer only. this is super lame.
Welcome to Destructoid? Where'd you come from?
@Snaileb
I assume you're talking to me? *looks around* Ah I just came out of the nothingness of the world wide web to enjoy this site because I'm a lover of games. :) But really I stumbled onto this site and have just now gotten into it. I've been checking it on a daily basis and am really enjoying the discussions.