Quantcast
Destructoid - VGFreak1225's Community Blog



About Me
So, you've found me. Welcome to my residence on our fair site. I'm your local ADD/Asperger's Syndrome-affected former Nintendo fanboy. Computer Science student (major pending) and adamandant Wii supporter. (Not that I don't love my other consoles)

(There'll be a photo of me here at some point.)

Franchises I love:
Mario
The Legend of Zelda
Metroid
Kirby
Professor Layton
Pokemon
Gears of War
Half-Life
Left 4 Dead
Team Fortress
Portal

Games I'm playing now (Several of them on and off):
Tatsunoko VS. Capcom: Ultimate All-Stars
Deadly Premonition
Ikaruga
Left 4 Dead 2
Team Fortress 2
Mega Man 2,9
Cave Story
Bit.Trip Beat
Golden Sun: The Lost Age
Lost Odyssey
New Super Mario Bros. Wii
Fallout 3

VGFreak1225 on Twitter



Gamer Profile
3DS friend code:
Steam: vgfreak1225
Battle:
PSN: VGFreak1225
Mii:
Gamertag: VgFreak1225
Following (25)
Awesomeist
Chad Concelmo
Ckarasu
Cough Syrup
DF
Diverse
Dr l0cke
eskimo bob
Gobun
Jonathan Ross
LazerJoe88
Los255
Mechman
Misstawnii
Mobius Einherjar
Monodi
Mr Andy Dixon
pedrovay2003
Ramalho
RoninZero
Sean Daisy
SPNKr
Tarvu
WastelandTraveler
Zeta Crossfire
Do the wrong thing: The player is played
VGFreak1225 | 5:00 PM on 11.17.2009 22 comments

Do the wrong thing: The player is played photo


<p><sub><span class="help-text"><span style="font-size: xx-small;">[<i>Editor's Note: We're not just a (rad) news site -- we also publish opinions/editorials from our community & employees like this one, though be aware it may not jive with the opinions of Destructoid as a whole, or how our moms raised us. Want to post your own article in response? Publish it now on our <a href="http://www.destructoid.com/elephant/my_post_new.phtml" target="_blank">community blogs</a>.</i>]</span></span></sub></p>
<p>Doing less savory acts in gaming is nothing new. <i>Grand Theft Auto</i> makes gunning down innocent victims fun. Strategy games often require you to sacrifice your units to achieve your goals. <br /> <br />But what about games where the goal is not justified? All the aforementioned games have a clear reason for your morals; even <i>Grand Theft Auto</i> gives you reasons for the violence, otherwise sending the police your way for your behavior. But what if your goal is not only unclear, but the game creates almost no negative feedback for your actions? Sure <i>Shadow of the Colossus</i> did that, but the game slowly revealed the consequences and in the end made that revelation very clear. What if there is a game where the player has all but no reason to realize that what he is doing is wrong?</p>
<p>2D Boy's <i>World of Goo</i> is one of those games. <i></i></p>

<p><sub><span class="help-text"><span style="font-size: xx-small;">[<i>Editor's Note: We're not just a (rad) news site -- we also publish opinions/editorials from our community & employees like this one, though be aware it may not jive with the opinions of Destructoid as a whole, or how our moms raised us. Want to post your own article in response? Publish it now on our <a href="http://www.destructoid.com/elephant/my_post_new.phtml" target="_blank">community blogs</a>.</i>]</span></span></sub></p>
<p>Doing less savory acts in gaming is nothing new. <i>Grand Theft Auto</i> makes gunning down innocent victims fun. Strategy games often require you to sacrifice your units to achieve your goals. <br /> <br />But what about games where the goal is not justified? All the aforementioned games have a clear reason for your morals; even <i>Grand Theft Auto</i> gives you reasons for the violence, otherwise sending the police your way for your behavior. But what if your goal is not only unclear, but the game creates almost no negative feedback for your actions? Sure <i>Shadow of the Colossus</i> did that, but the game slowly revealed the consequences and in the end made that revelation very clear. What if there is a game where the player has all but no reason to realize that what he is doing is wrong?</p>
<p>2D Boy's <i>World of Goo</i> is one of those games. <i></i></p>



Attached photos:

Photo Photo

Is this post awesome? Vote it up!

7

Those who have fapped:  Michael Bufardeci  


Post a comment! You can also post a photo below:

Comment with Facebook





Click connect and comment instantly!

Comment with Dtoid





New? SIGN UP - it takes 5 seconds

20 comments | showing # 1 to 20
prev next

AlexBebop's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/11/2009 03:45
AlexBebop
Whoa, deep stuff. I haven't gotten around to playing World of Goo, so I'm wondering if I would have picked up on the same things and had the same realizations you had playing through.

This makes me even more interested to play the game.
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/11/2009 06:35
Monodi
just less than an hour ago reached the End of the World level. this game is fascinating
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/11/2009 10:44
Elsa
Interesting concept!!
(haven't played the game... but definitely more than a "kids's game" that the title implies.)
Anonymouse's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/11/2009 11:04
Anonymouse
I love you just because you've read the Terrible Story of Animal Crossing.

Great blog, btw.
VGFreak1225's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/11/2009 11:28
VGFreak1225
@callmeAlex, Elsa: Yeah, if you haven't already done so, get it. Its my favorite Wii game of 2007.

@Anonymouse: I know, its quite possibly the best fan-fic ever created. (granted, that's not saying much, but still)
VGFreak1225's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/11/2009 11:29
VGFreak1225
Whoops, favorite game of 2008.
Joanna Mueller's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/11/2009 13:21
Joanna Mueller
Very clever, for the record I think most people can be persuaded to gleefully do evil simply because they don't see it as evil and games that illustrate this human flaw are fantastic. Any game that makes us look at ourselves and our motivations and ask questions is a game well made.
Sonic9jct's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/11/2009 20:26
Sonic9jct
I felt disturbed playing the game knowing what the goos are used for once they make it past the pipe...
DUNKPuppyT's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/17/2009 17:15
DUNKPuppyT
Your right VG, I think throughout the game you DO get that sense, and the sign painter definitely... perhaps subtlety, contributes to that knowledge. Amazing game :)
eYak's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/17/2009 17:20
eYak
The game's both ominous and adorable. You nailed it. The beauty goos being sent through the grinder to break them up for use in beauty products? All with that funeral dirge soundtrack backing it? I played it on Wii for the multiplayer, so it was my girlfriend and I giggling at the cuteness, chagrined by the morbid annihilation and finally beating the game with a mixture of satisfaction and relief.
AfroWalrus's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/17/2009 17:41
AfroWalrus
I hadn't thought of it that way at all, and I've played through the game twice. Good stuff. I love how the story is told through the Sign Painter and the environments (my favorite is "These balloons should be used for fun. Not bypassing security devices.")

To counterpoint, World 4 is where you "switch sides" as it were, going on the goo's side.
phantomile's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/17/2009 18:07
phantomile
Very well-written, and I thought about this kind of stuff playing it as well. There is one thing I disagree with, though:
"I could have stopped playing the game and the damage would have come to a cease."

Would you really have felt like you were doing something good if you had simply stopped playing the game before it was finished? I think this differs from "moral choices" in games in the sense that there is only one ending in World of Goo.

Whether that ending, or the path to reach it is satisfying or not, it is still the game's ending. Stopping anytime before then just wouldn't be right.

But that's just my two-cents. This was a really great article, and will hopefully get more people to buy World of Goo!
VGFreak1225's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/17/2009 18:24
VGFreak1225
@phantomile: Yeah, after the blog went live, there were a few parts of it that in hindsight weren't entirely accurate. That was one of them
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/17/2009 18:40
Jonathan Holmes
Great game, and great write up. This is all the stuff I wished I could have talked about in the review last year, but didn't want to spoil.
ace of knaves's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/17/2009 18:44
ace of knaves
Nothing is more disturbing than the final level of World 2. And I was sure the Sign Painter was going to end up being evil, but no, the player's quite a bit worse. Until World 4 anyway.
BalloonFighter's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/17/2009 19:51
BalloonFighter
Great game indeed. I feel like a dummy now. I didn't pick up on any of that while playing through. In fact I felt it was all pretty random and didn't fit together in a story arc at all. This may be a stretch but the way you unlock the levels on the globe almost represents comming full circle and I don't even know what I'm talking about now.
BalloonFighter's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/17/2009 20:05
BalloonFighter
The title of this article reminds me of this old sayin in Texas. Play me once, shame on you. Play me twice...shame...you see the player can't be played.
readbigwordsisgood's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/17/2009 20:25
readbigwordsisgood
To summarize your point - would it be fair to say you are suggesting
perhaps the sign painter is a liar with a dark purpose, trying to dupe you into committing criminal acts?

I think you are suggesting that World of Goo is a 'Milgram's Experiment'.

A test to measure the participant's "obedience to authority", no matter how immoral or tortuous.

The authority figure says - "The experiment requires you to continue."

and/or "for the experiment to succeed
you are required to continue."

Milgram's Obedience to Authority Experiment

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcvSNg0HZwk

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

I will simply say - goo balls, and in general, actions taken in video games are fantasy.

It is a known variable that, 'You know it is a fantasy'.

It is an error of logic to generalize from a specific fantasy to a general hypothetical reality.

You can not commit a crime against a goo ball. Goo balls are not people. Etc...

Here is a big list of logical fallacies.

http://www.logicalfallacies.info/relevance/appeals/appeal-to-authority/
Django Reinhardt's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/17/2009 22:26
Django Reinhardt
Goo balls are indeed sentient.
TheStripe's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/18/2009 01:52
TheStripe
World of Goo is a phenominal experience. I should delete my save data and start it over. . .
prev next

Comment with Facebook





Click connect and comment instantly!

Comment with Dtoid





New? SIGN UP - it takes 5 seconds

Comments policy

Destructoid is an open discussion community. You don't need to "audition" to post a comment - just speak your mind. We respect differing opinions on the site, so have at it. Be smart, funny, insightful, clueless, or cute -- but back it up with substance. Keep your cool, keep it fun. We only ask that you act respectfully and above all: don't be a troll and ruin it for everyone else. Don't bring down gamers or we'll, you know, gently shoot you in the face and stuff you into a flaming mailbox. Each comment is your opportuntity to make this community awesomer. Is that even a word?

Avoiding the banhammer only requires common sense: spamming, trolling, racism, NSFW stuff, and other forms of sucking will not be tolerated. If anyone is griefing please report abuse. Be good. Don't suck!