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Picking the DC side of this
Tug Your God Out | 8:06 PM on 04.19.2008 9 comments


Ok, I'm sure we're all tired about talking about how much its going to fail. But now that I'm over that, I'm kind of interested to see who will be represented by the two sides. Which DC heroes are going to make the cut and which Mortal Kombat guys no one cares about will be thrown into this thing.

Back when I was a computer science major I attempted to plot out a DC only fighting game, and my love (at that time -- my current "love" for DC is a whole other story and fuck Dan Didio and his Crisis-es) for the DC line I was hoping to squeeze an ungodly amount of characters into the thing. Who cares if essentially all three people to wear the Flash mantle (at that time) would probably play the same? Who cares if Impulse and Interia and Jesse Chambers and John Fox would be exactly the same too for the most part? I wanted clones. I wanted people to see which Green Lantern was superior. Granted there's only one answer to that -- Hal Jordan -- but Kyle's come a long way.

I think, after all the obscure characters, the list was somewhere near 250 characters. Which of course is impossible enough before you factor in not having a license or any artistic talent to animate that many characters.

From the looks of it, Midway is starting off small with apparently 16 characters. You'd expect this number to be split down the middle 8 and 8 for each side. Of course, seeing as it's a train wreck that I can't seem to advert my eyes from, I'll buy the first one despite not buying a Mortal Kombat since II hit the SNES. And I'm assuming no matter how bad it'll be, it'll still sell a buttload of copies and we'll get an update that will still suck but expand the roster and they'll happen to throw in a DC character that will tempt me just enough to buy the damn thing.

Seriously, if Ollie isn't in the first game and he's in the second -- sorry guys, I'm going to have to buy it again. Oh, Red Arrow in the third game? Fuck....well, maybe it improved.....it'll be a nasty circle.

But let's face it -- it can't be any worse than the last attempt at a DC fighting game, Justice League: Task Force. And I had hours of fun with that.

I was hoping for at least maybe a roster of 32 to play around with when I originally started thinking of who I wanted in the game. Hell the last MK game had around 62 and 98% of them even Mortal Kombat fans didn't give two shits about.

Eight makes it difficult, because there's the Big Seven from Morrison's JLA sitting right there.

Of course the given is Batman because everyone loves Batman -- and he's in the trailer. I want one person to actually speak up honestly and say they hate Batman and why. You can't because the character is just that awesome. Uber-Bats is a bit of a dick but I can't imagine much Morrison plotting in this game. He's very much the face of DC as Superman is. It's kind of amazing how Batman has caught so many people's imagination when overall, through most of his publication run, there really haven't been too many great Batman comics. And if you liked Hush -- GTFO.

Superman, obviously the face of DC and the second pillar of the Holy Trinity, has got to be in there. People worry about his 'invicibility' and strength. It's always been the problem in making a Superman game, because you either make him too powerful or you completely castrate him. It's the same deal with the comics -- you put a poor writer at the reigns of a Superman comic and either one of those two things happens.

Overall I think they'll be alright with a toned down Superman. No one expect this to be perfect afterall.

The final pillar of the Trinity is Wonder Woman, who I could care less about but she's important enough to the DC Universe and recognizable enough outside of the media in large part to Lynda Carter, who even after all these years I would love to "put a baby inside of."

Those three are pretty much locks. Giving you only five slots to play around with.

Despite all the horse shit they turned the Parallax into lately, it's nice to see Hal Jordan back a hero. I loved the fallen hero idea a bit better but it's Hal fucking Jordan, who really is popular enough with fans they should call it the Big 4 instead of the Big 3/Trinity. Despite the fact that my dad use to collect Green Lantern comics, he's really not that recognizable or popular outside of comic geekdom it seems. But if you're going to appease that geekdom, Hal Jordan better be there.

I'm afriad they'll put John Stewart in here because they need the token black character and he's in the Justice League cartoon but no, it's got to be Hal. Kyle might be acceptable, as he's once more a Green Lantern and not Ion, but save him for a future installment, ok? In the end, I think they'll go with Stewart but let's just put Hal in the fourth spot.

Martian Manhunter. J'onn J'onnz. I don't like the character but if this was the JLA v MK then he'd be a shoe-in because for some reason DC thinks J'onn IS the League and he's a part of essentially every JLA to date. Except that silly one formed during 52 for like a week. And the current version, but I don't expect they'd tell him no if he decided to stop hanging out with Batman's Outsiders and come back.

But I like J'onn's style in a Mortal Kombat game. I think he works with the world of Scorpion and Sub-Zero and Reptile and uhm....yeah...Johnny Cage...and the guy with the hat. I think he'd have an interesting move-set, too bad it'd be more interesting in a Street Fighter-esque game, sorry. Overall, he's one of two MAIN characters in the DCU that I look at and say, they have to be in an MK game.

The other being Hawkman. It'd be nice to have someone on the roster that isn't in the League (yes, I know Katar Hol was in the league but ugh, the retcon'd that to be Fel Ander) but Hawkman I just see as fitting in much nicer than say, the Flash. Though I wouldn't be shocked if they threw in Hawkgirl instead for sex appeal. And honestly, I'm not sure I'd mind in the long run. Still give Carter some credit.

That unfortunately leaves two spots left. And there's nothing saying that they all have to be good guys. The 'bad guy' I hear mentioned the most for this game is Doomsday just based off raw strength and seeing him and Goro go at it would be great. And all things considered, he might just be the best villian choice. He's big, scary, powerful and well known to those even outside of comic circles.

The Joker -- possibly if he's sadistic enough but the acid flower move just doesn't fit and it wouldn't be Joker without it. Lex Luthor -- even in battle armor doesn't make me shake in my boots in a hand to hand fighting game. Darkseid -- maybe but I'm not sure he'd visually mesh well with MK. Count Vertigo -- as awesome as that'd be he's too obscure for most folks. Gorilla Grodd -- would work but again, prehaps a bit too obscure. And well there are dozens and dozens of villains but outside of me and a handful of people, I don't think anyone else would be excited to see Sam Scudder or Signalman.

Of course that then leaves one spot for two of the Big Seven. Flash and Aquaman. Of course, a lot of people think this one would be fairly easy. No one likes Aquaman. Except me. Orin kicked so much ass in the comics. Too bad he could never shake the whole Super Friends and what it did to crush public preception of him. Joseph, the new Aquaman, sucks so hard. We want the real King. As much as I'd love to beat up on Artie-Joe and rip his spine out, I'd say leave him out.

And the Flash, certainly he gets the last spot, right? You know -- call me crazy but I don't like how he fits. His super speed in the game would either be completely nerf'd or too powerful. Might be interesting with the dail-a-combo system.

But I love the Flash. He's easily my favorite superhero from growing up. If he's not done right, I don't want to see him done at all. And I feel the last spot is probably Green Arrow's anyway. DC loves their Green Arrow. I love Ollie too but I never remember him being a huge part of the DCU before Identity Crisis. Now he's at the core of the DCU and thrown on Smallville and the lot. Judd Winick has essentially ruined him but that's pretty much the only thing Winick's good at (though I still enjoy Outsiders for some stupid reason.) Didio seems to be a huge fan and while I know it's not Didio's decision in this matter, I'd assume he'd love to see Ollie in that last spot.

I'd love to think maybe there are hidden characters because you can't forget the Flash. I'd also love to throw in Rex Mason and maybe Black Canary so Sonya Blade would have someone more on her level.

Phantom Stranger or Zatanna would be great. I'd also love to see some of the JLI team members in here but without fatalities I'm not sure DC would bother (for those that don't know, it's seemingly a running gag that Didio hates the JLI characters because they've essentially been killing them all off lately.) Doctor Fate would look so bad ass.

Too bad Captain Marvel would once again be quickly labeled another Superman clone.

Booster Gold would be fun to beat up on. Too bad him and Ted (Blue Beatle) would probably be too goofy even for MK. Ditto goes for Buddy Baker, Animal Man.

The Ray and Atom are probably too obscure and maybe not fit as well. Power Girl, however, would work with the big boobs but you already have Wonder Woman -- just give increase her mammories.

Zauriel? Anyone? Plastic Man? Please? Jason Blood? You know he'd work great!

But seriously, let's up the cast list to 12 from 8.

Give me Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Hal Jordan, Hawkman, Martian Manhunter, Green Arrow and Orin Aquaman.

With the final two spots give me Black Lightning and Doctor Fate or Spectre. Black Lightning for the token black character and for a current member of the JLA cast. He'd also counter Raiden, although having two lightning guys might be overkill.

Doctor Fate to me is too cool to pass up and could be a way to connect the two worlds together. But so could the Spectre, who looks like he could fit in with the MK universe. Though it would have to be Jim Corrigan for me and not Crispus Allen.

And shit -- Deathstroke....he's got to be in there.

Ugh...ok give me fourteen spots making Deathstroke and Spectre part of the cast.

But wait.......








*four hours later*






Ok give me 270 slots with the inclusion of Psycho-Pirate, Tanaka Rei, Peek-a-Boo, Bibbo Bibbowski, Comet the Superhorse, and Mogo.....

Fuck -- just make me a damn DCU fighting game already damnit. Screw those Mortal Kombat guys.



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Zombutler's Destructoid Blog
lolololooolololololoololoololo

also,
cocks.
MechaMonkey's Destructoid Blog
So I take it you're a comic book aficionado?
Person of Lordly Caliber's Destructoid Blog
I would laugh so hard if the DC fighters consisted of 6 iterations of Superman (Golden age, Dean Cain age, Man of Steel, Man of Tomorrow, Superboy, Last Son of Krypton) one Clark Kent, and one Batman.
Boy would it sell though. Everyone loves Superman.
Mxyzptlk's Destructoid Blog
I'll buy this only if it features Detective Chimp.
gregweb's Destructoid Blog
I want Blue Beetle, Booster Gold, Atom (the asian one), and Elastic Man (fuck Plastic Man.)
Tug Your God Out's Destructoid Blog
@Red

I find it more funny that I haven't bought a Mortal Kombat title since before you were alive.

@Mecha

I come and go. Mostly a DCU fan and indie stuff. Thanks to Countdown though -- I'm gone for a while. They dropped the ball big time with One Year Later and 52. And I liked 52 more than most.

@ Ogre Battle er Person of Lordly Caliber

I definitely would. Throw in Earth-3 Superman and I'll buy two.

@ Mxyzptlk

It's a sad day that Shadowpact is ending this month. Though not surprising, it felt like I was the only one reading that book at times, so when I stopped picking it up in December it was ineventible that it'd get canned. Though I do like to thank Didio for keeping it alive for me and three other people.

@ greg

They've fucked over Ralph so much lately, putting him in this might be insult to injury.

Not a huge fan of Choi but I'm just bitter and haven't really had that much exposure to him. Pratt or Palmer for me. Or in my 300-plus character game Adam Cray too.
binny101's Destructoid Blog
I take it that you like DC? That is mistake number one. Go with Marvel and all your days will shine much brighter!
Tug Your God Out's Destructoid Blog
Yeah, what Quesada's done over there has been soooo much better. Sense the sarcasm. Right now I'm not happy with either one.

Bendis running the entire show over there disinterests me. Civil War was meh...the Avengers stuff was crap. This Skrull stuff annoys me. The last couple "major" arcs on Spider-Man have been garbage. Messiah Complex....ugh the X-books weren't very reable when I was a kid but now, most times they're crap. I did like Morrison's and CArey's runs but everything since M-Day there has just felt like they're for shock value. World War Hulk sounded like such a great idea....and it fell flat. The Ultimate Universe? Don't really get me started on that.

I'm just at the point with both companies where I have given up caring. Hate to sound like an indie snob, but the big two just haven't given me anything I care about in a couple years.
Tug Your God Out's Destructoid Blog
Also I'm not saying either company is bad. I love both. And I still love the majority of the characters and always will, but you know -- sometimes you just go through cycles where you get tired of it. It happens with everything, even games.

You just need to step back and 'recharge' and that's where I am. Granted 52 and Countdown probably increased that fatigue factor quicker than any other story in history.

Not really trying to say one's better than the other. I read both and have my favorites on both.

Haven't read a comic since December but I'm saying Titans Together just might get me back in there. Might be enough time off. I don't know. Better than the 2 year break I took at the turn of this century.


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