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Trev has a 360 and thoughts on NG2. Also is annoyed by drunk people.
Trev | 12:51 PM on 06.21.2008 13 comments



Two of those is how.

It started off rocky
The first 30 seconds of my Xbox's operational life were as follows:
1. Insert Ninja Gaiden 2
2. Update notification
3. Update FAILED.

Then it froze at this 360 logo screen for a while and, risking it, I power cycled the thing and it booted up to the dashboard again. This time, NG2 decided to play. As I write this, I wonder if there's a way to force it to check game updates. I don't know what it missed or if it did it the second time and it worked, but the lack of a cryptic error code to toss into Google does not sit right with me. As a former PC support technician, having a string of numbers that only computers understand thrown at me is comforting. It can't give you a code unless it knows what's wrong, and if it knows, so does someone else. My PS3 at least does that. It's left me with a feeling of uncertainty and I really hope that goes away soon.

Ninja Gaiden 2 is...
Not great, but good. It's a little less twitchy than Sigma, but the camera is so bad that I kind of hope Itagaki loses his damn lawsuit. I'll let the unblockable attacks and lack of a lock on (to not have me swinging at everyone but the bomb crawling towards me) go. The game fights dirty and I knew what I was getting into. But the camera vibrating, stuck between the wall and an enemy, clipping into each of them and making it not just impossible to see, but headache inducing in a physical sense is completely unacceptable. I've noticed Ryu's feet clipping into things, invisible walls and really empty environments. The dialog is fucking terrible and everything looks like it was designed by Rob Liefeld. All in all, I'd say the game is 95% amateurish bullshit. If the combat wasn't fun, I would have sold it already.

For all the continues I've used, I never feel like I actually lost though. I've died when I got hit with unblockable attacks from off camera, when Ryu has decided he just wasn't in the mood to execute the crippled ninja crawling his way, when the camera got stuck in a wall. I've lost because the game fucked up. I think I've legitimately lost all of three fights so far.

I realize I said I ripped on the game, said I was having fun, then ripped on it some more, but I assure you I'm actually enjoying it. I'm just not enjoying all the parts of it.

Rob goddamn Liefled
That's what it is. Tomonobu Itagaki is the Japanese Liefeld. Everything needs to be X-TREEM and poorly proportioned. It really sank in just after I defeated the electrified subway train that looked like a combination of Magog and Seaman, the character Magog (Kingdom Come, DC) actually being a parody of Liefeld's character designs and writing. Don't misunderstand me, please. I may not like his work, but I have some respect for Rob Liefeld. He makes a living doing something I wish I could do and his style is a victim of the times. In his own words, "everything was being Mortal Kombat'd then". It doesn't change that he's not so great at anatomy, but I don't harbor ill will toward the guy. It's 2008, not 1992. What the hell is your excuse, Itagaki?

LIVE
I haven't set up my GT yet, only having one game that doesn't play online doesn't make it especially high priority. I'm probably going to leave it at a silver-level membership until I have a reason, and game, to play online. No offense intended, 360 owning robots (dtoid patrons, not... whatever) but I have enough trouble making the PS3 FNF, and I completely forgot about TFTuesday twice, so I've still logged 0 hours of TF2. I remain a noob. It's not that I don't want to play games with you, I just have a pretty full plate already, and it's getting cold.

I'm currently at a loss as to what it should be. I flipped through the automatically generated tags and had a chuckle, but I really don't feel like being "FrostyTexas" forever. My hilariously drunk friends, who decided to drop by (ugh, by the way) tried to help, but forgot that being drunk also meant they were idiots. While I waited for one of them to sober up enough to drive (I reiterate: idiots), I didn't get much thinking on that done. GT acquisition has been put on hold until I figure out what I want screechy voiced 14 year olds to be shouting racial epithets at.



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EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/21/2008 13:20
EternalDeathSlayer
I loved Ninja Gaiden 2, but yeah, the camera and story were total garbage.

that said, I don't think I died during any fights unless it was a boss. Even the rocket-launcher ninjas can't kill you if you keep jumping and using the flying swallow.

But still, the fact that they have you dodging rockets while fighting 5 other dudes is a pain in the ass.
MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/21/2008 13:26
MrSadistic
xsk8erboix
Kryptinite's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/21/2008 14:39
Kryptinite
I'm on the last chapter of NG2 and I'm getting my ass handed to me. I hate it so much that I love it.

Does that even make sense.
xdaytime's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/21/2008 15:20
xdaytime
Congrats.

Seriously though, you need to buy gold and get Halo 3 and Gears of War. Don't waste money on GTAIV though. I'd rent it to see if you like it first because I made the mistake of taking IGN's 10/10 word for it and wound up not liking it so much.

Make sure as well to get Geometry Wars on XBLA.

Add my gamertag: xdaytime
Trev's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/21/2008 15:56
Trev
Yeah, Kryptinite. It about 50% having fun and 50% finishing a game out of spite. It's fun to play, but it's also so incredibly frustrating that you'd quit, if that wouldn't mean letting the game win.
GrayFox's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/21/2008 16:48
GrayFox
Some aspects of NG2 are great, and others are awful. I don't think I've ever seen such a chasm between highs and lows in a game before. It's an interesting piece of work, you at least got to give it that.
big filth's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/21/2008 16:50
big filth
I think you suck at NG 2 so you are making up stories.

why criticize it for its story??

its not about story dude. if you want a good one of those, go read a book. But I bet the combat in the book isnt as exciting as it is in NG2
Trev's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/21/2008 17:23
Trev
Why criticize the story? Because it doesn't let me skip the cutscenes the first time and starts every level with some verbose bullshit about what's going on. If I'm forced to see this, then it should be good. Also because you can give an action game a story that isn't absolute trash. Devil May Cry and God of War aren't examples of sophisticated writing, but I at least care what happens. I'm interested in DMC5 not just because I like the gameplay, but because I want to find out what the hell is up with Nero.

Ninja Gaiden's story does absolutely nothing for me; not even the tiniest bit of interest. There was some FBI agent(?) that two characters who's names I never learned kidnapped then released in the same cutscene. I have yet to see her again. I'm supposed to be impressed by these enemies, but Alexei looks and sounds like someones retarded Legacy of Kain fancharacter. Then I killed him by spamming Flying Swallow and fire magic.

And I keep getting Head Ninja and Master Ninja ranks. If those are the bad ones, you can tell me, that's not what I'm getting out of them.
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/21/2008 19:31
Aaron Mxy Yost
GT: "Rob Liefeld is a complete hack and should be drawing portraits at an amusement park instead of making money as a professional comic artist". That might not fit though.
SysiphusRock's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/22/2008 20:13
SysiphusRock
"Why criticize the story? Because it doesn't let me skip the cutscenes the first time and starts every level with some verbose bullshit about what's going on. If I'm forced to see this, then it should be good. Also because you can give an action game a story that isn't absolute trash. Devil May Cry and God of War aren't examples of sophisticated writing, but I at least care what happens. I'm interested in DMC5 not just because I like the gameplay, but because I want to find out what the hell is up with Nero.

Ninja Gaiden's story does absolutely nothing for me; not even the tiniest bit of interest. There was some FBI agent(?) that two characters who's names I never learned kidnapped then released in the same cutscene. I have yet to see her again. I'm supposed to be impressed by these enemies, but Alexei looks and sounds like someones retarded Legacy of Kain fancharacter. Then I killed him by spamming Flying Swallow and fire magic.

And I keep getting Head Ninja and Master Ninja ranks. If those are the bad ones, you can tell me, that's not what I'm getting out of them."


Quoted for motherfucking truth. Im replaying Black right now. The combat is incredibly fun, even if it takes a couple levels to actually get the useful shit. But EVERYTHING else is garbage. Itagaki's games are my ... I wouldnt say guilty pleasure, they're more of a smoking habit. I have DOAU1&2, DOA3, 4, and NG:B. None of them are "great games" The only thing DOA is better than is probably Street Fighter II: Champion Edition, tekkens 2, and Virtua Fighter 2. All games better than those three tend to be better than all of the DOA games.

But it's still a competent game, and even FUN. And of coruse Ninja Gaiden has fun fighting. it's just everything else in the game one just can't give a shit about.

As far as Itagaki = Lifeld, I don't entirely agree. Liefeld is an insult to people like me who I think would be capable of working in the comics industry. itagaki on the other hand DOES oversee some quality games.

Then again at least Liefeld creates his own work and isnt just the Producer who sits back and goes "Hm. Needs moar titties."

Damn it...
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