So in my first post, I got alot of shit from alot of you for saying I dislike "1337" speak. There are several reason why I dislike it so much, while reading this, please keep an open mind and don't instantly say "he's a n00b haxxorz". You can go ahead and insult me, it proves nothing beyond the point that your a peasant. However, if you can go ahead and answer in an intelligent manner without a direct attack, then perhaps it would prove to me it isn't a total wasteland our generation.
The very reason I dislike "1337" speak, or any nerd language in general (lets throw kling-on in there just for the sake of it.) Is that as gamers, we are already looked down upon in society as being different, and the "outsiders". Now in more recent knowledge gamers in general have been more accepted, however, the "hardcore gamers" found a way to further alienate themselves from society with this "1337" speak thing.
Also, it makes anyone using it sound so uneducated and honestly, it makes it sound like your not gonna make it any further then your parents basement... unless you get lucky and find yourself a job at mcdonalds. I just can't imagine anyone that speaks "1337" speak have any sort of respectable career. Can you imagine this?
*ring*ring* (the phone rings)
1337 speaker picks it up .
1337 SPEAKER
Hello, thanks for calling n00b
CALLER
Um... ok? anyways, would you happen to have fries?
1337 SPEAKER
yez we doz
CALLER
... was that a yes?
1337 SPEAKER
n00b
CALLER
you just lost a sale.
1337 SPEAKER
pwnd
I mean, anyone that speaks "1337" definately gives away this sense that they just don't have any big plans for their lives. It's the equivalent of druggies from the 70's.
Just proves how much a teenage wasteland our generation thing, and I think it's something we shouldn't so openly be promoting.
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ok, I am done.
Protip: you're a peasant.
I've only ever played halo once online... and 1337 speak is all I heard.
"Is that as gamers, we are already looked down upon in society as being different, and the "outsiders"."
"don't want to be generalised? don't be generic."
You want people to conform and not be different, but they still need to avoid being generic.
Look, I'm all for not using l337 speak because it's a confusing exercise in stupidity to try and read and reply in kind, but to shuffle off it's existence as an annoyance because gamers are being generalized as outcasts is stupid.
Gamers are outcasts for many other reasons than just l337 speak. And without having to elaborate on ALL of those reasons, many people use gaming as their outlet AWAY from the rest of society. Gaming in their escape. As such, they want to put as much distance between it and reality.
If l337 speak is their outlet, let them have it. If you don't want to use it, let them use it, but don't be a pushy dick in trying to force it out of the vernacular.
You'll only end up looking like this douche bag.
So look, just because you don't use it, and I don't use it, doesn't mean it's ruining everything for everyone. There's plenty of panic in the streets for far worse offenses from gamers. Why don't you spend more time rallying against bigoted morons like Jack Thompson who publicly attack and slander games for violent and homo-erotic content that somehow leads to acts of real world violence and butt sex?
...although I agree, 1337 both reads and sounds like shit.
Wha..?
How 'bout you stop talking down to us. And stop making silly assumptions and generalizations. Their are plenty of us here that have very acceptable careers.
or just GTFO.
You're owning up to making the dumbest example of "sampling online gaming."
Lemme guess, random ranked online?
Lone wolves? Yeah, odds are you're going to run into some of that group.
But you know what? Xbox GIVES you a mute function. Use it.
If that crowd doesn't suit you, I'd suggest making some friends (ones who also share your profound love of being a dick to people as a way of making a first impression, perhaps?) and playing Halo 3 against them. Or maybe Chess or Backgammon or whatever haughty game you "cultured" games love so much.
/facepalm ...... Its only that way because you believe its that way. I think gamers are upstanding, normal members of society and I don't let anyone treat me like I'm not
Tim I think Hawkeye wants you to shut up
random abbreviations on the other hand, I'm perfectly ok with. So again, would kindly GTFO.
Zombie Spider-Man is into necrophilia.
Here's a final thought.
You ever wondered why, Dr. Frasier Crane, despite being an elitist snob and all around hoity toity guy was openly accepted in Cheers? Because he could put aside being a dick and be a normal person when hanging out with the guys. And that included hanging out with Cliff, Norm, and Paul, you know, the outcasts of the bar.
He knew that despite their faults, that they were the same as him when he stepped in the bar and that they would accept him as he accepted them.
Socially, they walked in different circles, and would likely never hang out outside of the bar, but that bar was their equalizer and it made everything fine for everyone to all be on the same page.
although the best cheers reference has to be that beer kills off the slow brain cells, just leaving you with the fast ones.
and yeah, man that makes you old. (some other old guy shared that beer reference with me)
Yea man, I've never been looked down upon for being a gamer so it must just be you. Also I don't know anyone who speaks l337 out loud or uses it regularly anyway. And if you're going to criticize people for not using proper English make sure you're using it.
1. Your and you're are different and have different meanings.
2. So in my first post, I got alot of shit from alot of you for saying I dislike "1337" speak. There are several reason why I dislike it so much, while reading this, please keep an open mind and don't instantly say "he's a n00b haxxorz".
Periods are nice for instance if one wanted to say "There are several reasons I dislike it so much. While reading this, please keep an open mind and don't instantly say "He's a n00b, haxxorz," they would write it like that. You dependence on commas is worrisome to say the lease. It's OK to breathe and stop sentences and you don't need a comma every second.
3. then perhaps it would prove to me it isn't a total wasteland our generation.
Your leaving out words and you want me to believe you have the right to criticize how someone else chooses to speak.
4. (lets throw kling-on in there just for the sake of it.)
You don't need a period here.
5. Now in more recent knowledge
How can knowledge be recent? You either have knowledge or you don't. This is a poorly worded sentence. You'd loose a sale if you said it to me.
6. yourself a job at mcdonalds.
McDonalds is a proper name and should be capitalized. You're really making yourself look smarter here. I can see you migrating up to your parents living room any day now.
7. Just proves how much a teenage wasteland our generation thing, and I think it's something we shouldn't so openly be promoting.
"Our generation thing" what? Want to finish that though up for me champ? Oh and your grasp of the English language seems so strong when you resort to using the word "thing" to describe things. At least someone typing in l337 can finish a thought.
Really before you go yelling at someone for sounding uneducated you might want to make sure you sound educated yourself or you know just proof read once.
let me translate for you... "GET THE FUCK OUT"
<3 thanks
its like going to a telemundo blog and telling the community not to speak spanglish!
(or something like that)
what a douche!
I can only assume that you were hurt by previous comments in a thread I had no knowledge of until I read this post. I suggest that you set those insults to one side and concentrate on being you rather than just attempting (and failing) to be better than others.
And I'm aware there were grammatical errors in my response so please to be pointing them out as a retort.
Fixed!
The reason people hate this guy is because the first line in his first blog includes "I'm perhaps 1 of the most important people to ever join this site."
it makes it sound like your not gonna make it any further then your parents basement...
Nicely done, Mr. Lefebvre. The first instance of “your” in that sentence should actually be spelled “you’re” (as in, “you are not gonna make it...”). Secondly, when you’re speaking comparatively, it’s “than”, not “then”. Lastly, since you’re using “parents” in the possessive sense (it’s their basement), it should have the possessive apostrophe tacked on at the end: “parents’”.
My English usage restrictions are more stringent than MaxVest’s (that’s not a knock on him; I’m just saying...) — so this blog gets a D from me. You don’t use 1337 speak? Wonderful. I’m ecstatic for you. Really, I am. Now go back to middle school and learn some damn grammar.
Don't forget he used the word "gonna."
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Take your elitism elsewhere, jackass. In fact, why don’t you just shuffle on back to your widely read blog?
I also did not realize that my sentence structure, and just general grammar was on trial here. I apologize to those of you who have been greatly offended by my lack of "you're" and periods.
@dvddesign
I appreciate the intelligent and well thought out responses, that was the kind I was hoping for. Great Cheers reference, but wasn't Fraiser originally created to judge the others, but would end up helping them out. However, America fell in love with Fraiser, and asked for more of him, to the point they gave him his own show.
As much as I enjoyed that, I think I'm a little more of the "Becker" type.
@Samit Sarkar
I need your approval why?
Again, if you do not use "1337" speak, please don't feel targeted by this article. If you do use it, feel very targeted. The rest of you, please, get your panties un-bunched, no one likes cranky pants.
FAIL
From this I think you are trying to convey that your in your opinion leet speak is lesser in comparison to 'regular' English.
This is complete bullshit. There are no lesser versions of language, only variations. I'm from England so I'm going to use an example from England; some people think that talking in Cockney Rhyming Slang is not as good as talking in Received Pronounciation (the Queen's English)...(normal English), but this is an ignorant opinion. There are only variations of languages, not lesser or greater valuable types.