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Prof. Layton proves .tiff and .harr are stupid
Tiff | 7:23 PM on 03.23.2008 53 comments


[Ripped from my Vox blog]



My twin brother 2 years removed, Harrison (or .harr to some, hehe) is visiting from college for the Zombie-Jesus weekend. Sitting side by side, him with my sister's DS lite and me with my PSP, we began to discuss the variety of hand held games we've been playing over the past few months. Back in the good ol' days, Harrison and I would spend many brain power hours in tandem getting through various puzzle and adventure games on the PC such as The Secret Island of Dr. Quandary, The Castle of Doctor Brain, and Legend of Kyrandia: Hand of Fate. Naturally, our experiences with Professor Layton and the Curious Village surfaced between our discussions.

Harrison mentioned that he had a chance to try a few puzzles at GameStop, remarking that he had a little bit of trouble on a couple of them. I immediately related as I too had run into a bit of a jam on what seemed to be some of the most simple puzzles. Our subconcious sibling connection was revealed when we both brought up issues with the 10 picarats Strange Hats puzzle. Pathetic, I know.

I present to you the exact Strange Hats puzzle below. If there's one thing I hate, it's being told that I'm stupid by a simple mind puzzle on my DS. If there's another thing I hate, it's finding out my super smart electrical engineering brother had the same problem. Here's your chance to further convince me of my own stupidity by trying to solve the puzzle yourself!

If you've played the game already you probably already know the answer, but if you haven't have a go... and don't cheat!





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Neonie's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 19:33
Neonie
Haha I went threw all four hats to get the answer to that damn puzzle.
Sadie G's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 19:33
Sadie G
That game makes me feel stupid...just wait until you get further along...

That one above in particular was quite a WTF moment for me.
Tiff's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 19:37
Tiff
Honestly, what the hell. This puzzle must be flawed because almost everyone that I've talked to have said that it's taken them all the hats to solve it.

Okay, now I feel a little less stupid.
Neonie's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 19:39
Neonie
It's an optical illusion, it's meant to mess with your brain.
Tiff's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 19:44
Tiff
Fair enough, but it's my understanding that a 10 picarat puzzle shouldn't take so many failed tries to solve... especially when using guesstimate finger measurements to be sure you don't get it wrong the first time!
Nick Chester's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 19:44
Nick Chester
It's A, isn't it?
Copyright 2008 Agent Chieftain's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 19:52
Copyright 2008 Agent Chieftain
Looks like an obvious C to me. Is that wrong?
Brilliam's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 19:53
Brilliam
i think i got this one on my first try, but that's because i saw basically the same puzzle when i was about eight in one of those books, and it stuck with me. i found it way easier to figure out if i imagined the thick-ass top part of the hat as a thin line. if that makes sense.
Tiff's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 19:56
Tiff
Check here for the answer
Nick Chester's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 19:57
Nick Chester
According to Gamefaqs, I am correct -- SCORE.

Also: spoilers.
Cowzilla3's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 19:58
Cowzilla3
I got that one wrong too. What good is a degree from Vassar if it doesnt orepare you for these things!
Tiff's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 19:59
Tiff
NICK SPOILERS COME ON!

Yeah seriously, Cowzilla. What a worthless liberal arts education. Pfft.
Samit Sarkar's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 20:00
Samit Sarkar
It’s A.

...right?
Copyright 2008 Agent Chieftain's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 20:08
Copyright 2008 Agent Chieftain
Oh, really?

Fuck that.
tazarthayoot's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 20:10
tazarthayoot
WHEN DO YOU SHOOT THINGS?
Brian Szabelski's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 20:11
Brian Szabelski
God damn hats.
BFeld13's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 20:12
BFeld13
That's a classic logic puzzle. I got it first try only because I'd failed it ten times before
SenorCalavera's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 20:14
SenorCalavera
Worst...Puzzle...Eva
tazarthayoot's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 20:15
tazarthayoot
In that case, I got it the first time too, because the first 3 attempts were just practice.
The GHost's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 20:17
The GHost
I got it right away, but only because I tate my monitor on a regular basis. :D

Things just seem taller than you would expect when going from a horizontal orientation.
Kiimu's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 20:21
Kiimu
If you concentrate on one of the sides of the hat in relation to the brim, that might help, as if you're looking at two sides of a quadrilateral that could almost be a square. I don't know if that makes any sense, but that's how I would guess A.
MaxVest's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 20:22
MaxVest
You must be playing your DS in widescreen (16:9) mode. Go into Options > Settings > Preferences > More > Advanced and hold down select + A for five seconds to access the Display Options dialog box. From there, go to Resolution > Native Resolution > Advanced > Preferences and manually select your width to 256 px and set the aspect ratio to 4:3. Reboot your DS into safe mode, remove the Professor Layton card while holding Up + B + Right Shoulder, and hurl the game card against the wall as forcefully as possible*.

*You can just skip to the last part.
tazarthayoot's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 20:25
tazarthayoot
I love you MaxVest
Tiff's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 20:25
Tiff
Wow, MaxVest. That's quite the solution.
Guagloves's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 20:32
Guagloves
if you hate these hats, wait until you get to matchstick puzzles...
MaxVest's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 20:38
MaxVest
It worked for me*!

[size=9]*Did not actually work.[/url]
MaxVest's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 20:39
MaxVest
Nor did the bbcode. I was going to buy this game so I could feel stupid, because I've just been feeling like a genius recently and it needed to stop. But bbcode fail saved me $30!
mattmagoo's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 20:45
mattmagoo
the auditorium was the worse wtf moment in that game

that question was weird
mattmagoo's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 20:45
mattmagoo
the auditorium chairs was the worse wtf moment in that game

that question was weird
Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 20:53
Darren Nakamura
It took me two tries to get that one right, though I knew it was an optical illusion.

Still, you shouldn't feel bad that your super smart EE brother couldn't get it either. That means that the puzzle is just hard, not that you're dumb. Right?
The GHost's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 21:06
The GHost
I really don't think it's a matter of being "smart" or "dumb". Everyone has a different type of problem that they're good at solving, it just depends on your thought process and past experiences.

If I've learned anything while at University, it's that intelligence comes in all sorts of flavors.

Mmmmmmmm, chocolate intelligence...
Tiff's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 21:07
Tiff
This whole post was a clever ruse for everyone in the community to boost my confidence of my own personal intelligence! It worked, thanks everyone!
tincow's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 21:58
tincow
There's really no rule to say you can't hold up a piece of paper or the end of the stylus to get rough measurements, and get a little help at beating the optical illusion.

It is actually there to set a groundrule for the rest of the game I think, if something seems too easy or obvious, it's probably a trap! You should live by that motto for the rest of the game and the rest of your life, IMO!
Anthony Burch's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 22:21
Anthony Burch
The patented "put your fingers on either side of the brim then rotate and compare against the height" trick works wonders for this one.

aka GOT IT ON MY FIRST TRY BOOYAH
MechaMonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 23:03
MechaMonkey
I utilized the Rev Ant Method (TM).
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 23:09
vexed alex
I got this one on my second try.

:(
ScottyG's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 23:11
ScottyG
If there's another thing I hate, it's finding out my super smart electrical engineering brother had the same problem.

Wouldn't that make you happy, so you could laugh at him? Sibling rivalry and all? :p

I suppose I shouldn't mention that I got that on the first try, and didn't make a random guess. Although the one with the clocks (how many times do three of the same number appear during a day) is making me feel dumb, even though it's worth 50. I even wrote them down and still got it wrong. :p
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 23:25
Sharpless
It's "A." And no, I didn't cheat and I totally avoided all but the first few comments.

Also, Tiff and Harr's parents make endearing and cute babies.
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 23:28
Sharpless
A winner is me! PROTIP: I looked at the hats straight-on first, then I turned my head sideways and compared the sideways "height" of the brim with what I'd just seen right-side-up. Capiche?
ceark's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 23:42
ceark
it's only hard because most people don't realize this is an optical illusion.
KamikazeTutor's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/23/2008 23:43
KamikazeTutor
You haven't seen nothing yet...

Go Man's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 00:00
Go Man
I actually got it on the second try, but I had the intention to try all four.
Tiff's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 00:34
Tiff
@Sharpless My genes are flattered by your compliments.

@KamikazeTutor BWAHAHAHA. CORRECT!
Dyson's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 01:17
Dyson
Just measure the hat with a piece of paper or the stylus, the answer is simple to figure out after that. This game ruled my life and I freaking love it.
AngelsDontBurn's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 01:29
AngelsDontBurn
LOLOLOLOLOL!
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 03:13
Sharpless
My genes would like to splice with your genes. I don't know what that means, but my genes are telling me that it's hott. With two "T"s. They specifically mentioned two "T"s.
Justice's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 04:14
Justice
Puzzle 003 was easy come on!

The later ones are tougher.
Kamikaze is right.
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/24/2008 17:25
Sharpless
@Lemon
I'm not smart enough for that.

Also, I'm not trying to pick Tiff up. Tiff is too cool to try to have sex with. Wait, that's not right...
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