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oh lord, you and everyone else, Tiff. It's not a finished product!
But I agree. They shouldn't have shown an unfinished product, if that's where you're getting at.
But I agree. They shouldn't have shown an unfinished product, if that's where you're getting at.
Are you serious? First of all, it was a teaser trailer, we have no idea if it will look like that or not.
Second, take what you can get. After ten fucking years I just want the game. Would you really dare ask them to delay it longer to upgrade the graphics? They've already changed the engine behind the game multiple times. If the game is as fun as Duke Nukem 3D I really don't care too much.
Second, take what you can get. After ten fucking years I just want the game. Would you really dare ask them to delay it longer to upgrade the graphics? They've already changed the engine behind the game multiple times. If the game is as fun as Duke Nukem 3D I really don't care too much.
Haha!
Alright alright dudes. Am I hurting Duke's ego a little too much? You're right, I should give him a chance ... it's been so long since he's poked his head into the sunlight. But clearly if it's still 'unfinished' why bother with a trailer that makes the enemies look like burnt-out marshmallow demons?
This trailer is a joke! I can't wait to see what clevar texture mappings they include in the next decade! IM SO EXCITED. *laughing on-line*
Alright alright dudes. Am I hurting Duke's ego a little too much? You're right, I should give him a chance ... it's been so long since he's poked his head into the sunlight. But clearly if it's still 'unfinished' why bother with a trailer that makes the enemies look like burnt-out marshmallow demons?
This trailer is a joke! I can't wait to see what clevar texture mappings they include in the next decade! IM SO EXCITED. *laughing on-line*
It looks like the UE3 demo from GDC 2005 blew chunks all over itself after a threesome with Prey and the box art for Destroy All Humans.
Tiff : They showed us this trailer so they can take a 2 year hiatus until the Unreal Engine 4 comes out.
Snaileb : Sure. But is that supposed to make me take Duke Nukem any more seriously? Or to believe that their intensive game developing efforts are any more ... uh ... fruitful?
Wait? Are you guys serious? Jared and Tiff are spot on: Fuck DNF, fuck 3D Realms. This is a piss-poor showing for a decade's worth of development. This makes Too Human look like the Immaculate Conception.
Even Daikatana wasn't in development for 10 years. This is a yoke.
Even Daikatana wasn't in development for 10 years. This is a yoke.
I don't think they're actaully developing this game anymore. Instead tehy sit around thinking about developing it and every time interest wanes they make some pretty pictures. I mean this can not be all they have to show. Not a sinlge shot of sustained gameplay after ten years? Fuck off.
Why you take this down?
Anyways.. Orcist put it in perspective pretty well. I will agree with you on most accounts Tiff, but the only good that can come of judging such an early product is that they learn from the comments.
Sadly I don't think this should've been taken down.
Anyways.. Orcist put it in perspective pretty well. I will agree with you on most accounts Tiff, but the only good that can come of judging such an early product is that they learn from the comments.
Sadly I don't think this should've been taken down.
Come on guys, you have to at least give them credit for thinking up that one-liner at the end of the trailer. Now THAT was worth waiting ten years for. And talk about textures on that sumbitch.[/sarcasm]
I consider Duke Nukem a gaming version of LonleyGirl15. Fanboys will become desperately attentive to any peek or update into the realm of the Duke, only to eventually be entirely derailed when its revealed that Duke Nukem is actually a viral ad campaign for the PSP.
I've been saying it for years:
NMALLA: Normal Maps Always Look Like Ass.
If you really feel compelled to crank your specular values until everything looks like it's been dipped in Vaseline, then buy yourself a copy of Poser
and leave the shader-wrangling to someone who can get results.
GRRR!! REGULUS SMASH!
NMALLA: Normal Maps Always Look Like Ass.
If you really feel compelled to crank your specular values until everything looks like it's been dipped in Vaseline, then buy yourself a copy of Poser
and leave the shader-wrangling to someone who can get results.
GRRR!! REGULUS SMASH!
"I consider Duke Nukem a gaming version of LonleyGirl15. Fanboys will become desperately attentive to any peek or update into the realm of the Duke, only to eventually be entirely derailed when its revealed that Duke Nukem is actually a viral ad campaign for the PSP."
Duke Nukem 3-D on the PSP = confirmed.
Duke Nukem 3-D on the PSP = confirmed.
I rest my case
Excerpts
Things that have taken less time than Duke Nukem Forever's development:
* Led Zeppelin released 7 albums, 9 singles, and toured around the world, crossing international borders 27 times (not counting mainland Europe.)
* The theory of General Relativity.
* World War II and the entire Manhattan Project.
* The United State's involvement in the Vietnam War.
tee-hee!
Excerpts
Things that have taken less time than Duke Nukem Forever's development:
* Led Zeppelin released 7 albums, 9 singles, and toured around the world, crossing international borders 27 times (not counting mainland Europe.)
* The theory of General Relativity.
* World War II and the entire Manhattan Project.
* The United State's involvement in the Vietnam War.
tee-hee!
I said the same exact thing when I saw the trailer. Hell, when they show Nukem himself, his arms are well defined you can see the bulging veins and such but his jeans are just solid blue, with a PS1-style lack of texture. GTFO, 3D Realms...this is what we waited so long for?
@JACK: OH SNAP! ITS BEEN BROUGHTEN!! Oh, wait....not really...that was ridiculously lame, and it didnt even really make sense.
@JACK: OH SNAP! ITS BEEN BROUGHTEN!! Oh, wait....not really...that was ridiculously lame, and it didnt even really make sense.
...
That was fully retarded.
Hey Tiff, just give them ten more years, or maybe you can show them the right way of doing things. Yeah, I brought the BBcode.
That was fully retarded.
Hey Tiff, just give them ten more years, or maybe you can show them the right way of doing things. Yeah, I brought the BBcode.
That could be an un-bump-mapped version of the gun. Halo's models actually look worse than this without the bump maps.
Look at whats become of people, all they care about is graphics......i mean if they wanted to wow you with graphics then thye would of done it a long time ago.
and all the bitchers, 3D realms is making this game for people that have been into it for a long time, not fuckin assholes who jump on a bandwagon and bash the hell out of it.
@Orcist
Fuck 3DR? Fuck DNF? Who the fuck made you king around here, what makes you so great huh? Do you make games? What good games have you put out latley, and do you mind showing me them? Your full of yourself and you are all very shallow if your going to judge this game just by its graphics.
PS: Dont even bring up daikatana, dont be a tard, duke nukem has history, daikatana didn't.
Dont like DNF? Then get the fuck off the internets, because your not going to stop the people that still look foward to this game from buying it.
and all the bitchers, 3D realms is making this game for people that have been into it for a long time, not fuckin assholes who jump on a bandwagon and bash the hell out of it.
@Orcist
Fuck 3DR? Fuck DNF? Who the fuck made you king around here, what makes you so great huh? Do you make games? What good games have you put out latley, and do you mind showing me them? Your full of yourself and you are all very shallow if your going to judge this game just by its graphics.
PS: Dont even bring up daikatana, dont be a tard, duke nukem has history, daikatana didn't.
Dont like DNF? Then get the fuck off the internets, because your not going to stop the people that still look foward to this game from buying it.
I just don't see the point in bitching about a teaser trailer. Shit on it when it comes out, but right now you really don't know anything about the game, and neither do we. As I said before, Duke Nukem 3D was amazing so why would I not give the sequel a shot? Team Fortress 2 took ten years and it's fantastic.
Word to what Shadow said,
Prey took a long time, good game.
TF2....Do I even have to say anything?
If you don't dig duke nukem, just go beat your "crysis" game again.
Crysis is cool, but it borrows from almost every shooter on the face of the earth.
Prey took a long time, good game.
TF2....Do I even have to say anything?
If you don't dig duke nukem, just go beat your "crysis" game again.
Crysis is cool, but it borrows from almost every shooter on the face of the earth.
YEAH IM GONNA TAKE SCREEN CAPS OFF OF REALLY QUICK FLASHES OF "GAME PLAY" FROM A MEDIOCRE TEASER TRAILER AND CRITQUE IT LIKE IT IS THE ACTUAL GAME BECAUSE I AM REALLY AWESOME!
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Guys, weedgan has a point; we should all rethink the way we look at this trailer because we've never made video games before.
@weedgan
Jesus, I'm bleeding from the ears over here. Slow down and think a little before you tap the keys right off your keyboard.
Originality is not the all-encompassing measurement of quality. Remember, Custer's Revenge was probably the most original idea anyone in the game industry has ever had, and it turned out to be a metric fuck-ton of fail. TF2, when you look at the bullet points, is just more of the same class-based multiplayer shovelware we've had since the original, but is polished to such a mirror sheen that even I, a man who avoids multiplayer like a flesh-eating virus, kinda had fun with it.
I don't think DNF looks much uglier than any of the other games out there based on UE3. Any game that abuses normal maps to the degree of Gears or BioShock is going to look like a nightmare beast no matter how you slice it. And Crysis is not immune either.
At this point, everybody on the product development side is just phoning it in, driving their texture artists into the ground on the assumption that being able to see your characters steroidal veins popping out like cables is somehow going to make the product cool. To see more of this in every announcement trailer since the launch of Doom 3 is most definitely going to make me stop caring, even if this was only the first time the game had been announced.
Taking personal offense at criticism of something you like is a dangerous first step into fanboyism.
Jesus, I'm bleeding from the ears over here. Slow down and think a little before you tap the keys right off your keyboard.
Originality is not the all-encompassing measurement of quality. Remember, Custer's Revenge was probably the most original idea anyone in the game industry has ever had, and it turned out to be a metric fuck-ton of fail. TF2, when you look at the bullet points, is just more of the same class-based multiplayer shovelware we've had since the original, but is polished to such a mirror sheen that even I, a man who avoids multiplayer like a flesh-eating virus, kinda had fun with it.
I don't think DNF looks much uglier than any of the other games out there based on UE3. Any game that abuses normal maps to the degree of Gears or BioShock is going to look like a nightmare beast no matter how you slice it. And Crysis is not immune either.
At this point, everybody on the product development side is just phoning it in, driving their texture artists into the ground on the assumption that being able to see your characters steroidal veins popping out like cables is somehow going to make the product cool. To see more of this in every announcement trailer since the launch of Doom 3 is most definitely going to make me stop caring, even if this was only the first time the game had been announced.
Taking personal offense at criticism of something you like is a dangerous first step into fanboyism.
@ Shadow- dude, do you just get mad about *everything* or what?
"I just don't see the point in bitching about a teaser trailer"
Yeah, but you sure do see the point of bitching about *other* people bitching.
"I just don't see the point in bitching about a teaser trailer"
Yeah, but you sure do see the point of bitching about *other* people bitching.
"Remember, Custer's Revenge was probably the most original idea anyone in the game industry has ever had,"
WTF?
WTF?
I like making 3D objects and stuff... this isn't that bad, but it is definitely not good at all by today's standards.
re: tiff's relationships
Sorry fellas but all of tiff's relationships are gonna be shorter than DNF because she's saving herself for me.
I just have to wait for hell to freeze over.
@itemforty: looks like duke had some time during his hiatus do get some work in gay porn. All that bukake work has given him a nice natural sheen.
Sorry fellas but all of tiff's relationships are gonna be shorter than DNF because she's saving herself for me.
I just have to wait for hell to freeze over.
@itemforty: looks like duke had some time during his hiatus do get some work in gay porn. All that bukake work has given him a nice natural sheen.
@blehman
"Hey guys, check this out. We take this guy, right? General Custer. Remember? From 11th grade history? So okay, he comes back from the dead, right? But he's got this HUGE boner!"
"Uhh, dude? You feeling okay?"
"Wait, wait, check this. So there's this Indian chick, right? And she's strapped to a cactus. And you have to dodge arrows so you can rape the f-"
"Okay, thanks for the idea, we'll call you later"
...
Alright, maybe not the most original, but it's up there...
"Hey guys, check this out. We take this guy, right? General Custer. Remember? From 11th grade history? So okay, he comes back from the dead, right? But he's got this HUGE boner!"
"Uhh, dude? You feeling okay?"
"Wait, wait, check this. So there's this Indian chick, right? And she's strapped to a cactus. And you have to dodge arrows so you can rape the f-"
"Okay, thanks for the idea, we'll call you later"
...
Alright, maybe not the most original, but it's up there...
@akathatoneguy:
I'm not getting any more pissed than anyone else, probably less. Why the hell are you singling me out? I'm just giving my opinion, relax.
I'm not getting any more pissed than anyone else, probably less. Why the hell are you singling me out? I'm just giving my opinion, relax.
The point isn't that "omg the graphics are bad". The point, at leas to me, is that "Omg the graphics are lazy". This trailer looks like something slapped together in 20 minutes with as little work possible done, with some random voice clip from jon st jon that doesn't make a lick of goddamn sense. It shows NOTHING, for as little time as possible. It's extremely lazy. It seems its only purpose is to remind people that 3D Realms exist and they're supposed to be making some awesome game we've all heard about and no one expects will ever be complete when they're instead sitting on their asses and playing WoW and raking in the cash from whoring out the Duke Nukem license to third party developers and 2K's stupid belief in them. 3D Realms hasn't done jack shit except produce since Duke Nukem 3D came out. 11 fucking years its been since they made anything. They started making Prey, came up with a few ideas and concepts then dropped it, and years later some other group picked it up and finished it for them and released it.
As far as I'm concerned, that's the only chance DNF has to be released; if 3D Realms finally just stops pretending to be making it, and some other developer like Human Head finishes it and releases it with 3DR as a "producer".
As far as I'm concerned, that's the only chance DNF has to be released; if 3D Realms finally just stops pretending to be making it, and some other developer like Human Head finishes it and releases it with 3DR as a "producer".
@ jetsetlemming-
Exactly! Generally...I'm saying GENERALLY, the polish on the graphics and the amount of effort put forth is pretty indicative of the effort put forth into the overall game itself. How many outstanding looking games have truly sucked? How many really, really shitty looking games (I'm not just talkling jaggies, but also lack of detail, bland, repetitive environments, etc.) have been awesome? Very few for both. I'm not talking about games like Puzzle Quest or other games that don't depend on graphics, mind you. Look at any great shooter, and at the time they all had graphics and environments/characters that looked at least good, if not great.
Exactly! Generally...I'm saying GENERALLY, the polish on the graphics and the amount of effort put forth is pretty indicative of the effort put forth into the overall game itself. How many outstanding looking games have truly sucked? How many really, really shitty looking games (I'm not just talkling jaggies, but also lack of detail, bland, repetitive environments, etc.) have been awesome? Very few for both. I'm not talking about games like Puzzle Quest or other games that don't depend on graphics, mind you. Look at any great shooter, and at the time they all had graphics and environments/characters that looked at least good, if not great.
@ jetsetlemming-
Exactly! Generally...I'm saying GENERALLY, the polish on the graphics and the amount of effort put forth is pretty indicative of the effort put forth into the overall game itself. How many outstanding looking games have truly sucked? How many really, really shitty looking games (I'm not just talkling jaggies, but also lack of detail, bland, repetitive environments, etc.) have been awesome? Very few for both. I'm not talking about games like Puzzle Quest or other games that don't depend on graphics, mind you. Look at any great shooter, and at the time they all had graphics and environments/characters that looked at least good, if not great.
Exactly! Generally...I'm saying GENERALLY, the polish on the graphics and the amount of effort put forth is pretty indicative of the effort put forth into the overall game itself. How many outstanding looking games have truly sucked? How many really, really shitty looking games (I'm not just talkling jaggies, but also lack of detail, bland, repetitive environments, etc.) have been awesome? Very few for both. I'm not talking about games like Puzzle Quest or other games that don't depend on graphics, mind you. Look at any great shooter, and at the time they all had graphics and environments/characters that looked at least good, if not great.
