You asserted they can't review based off a beta.
What else, pray tall, do they have to review with exactly? Even when an MMO is out of beta it is, at retail release, pretty much moved on to a paid beta. If the game isn't enjoyable to play now, its not going to be by launch.
The proper thing to do would to never review an MMO for any reason, as everything is subject to change within three months to a year or even two or three years. That review will stand for all time, yet grow completely outdated over time.
Most people that have previewed it say that it is highly derivative of WoW with the usual Bioware story flavoring. And tons of unecessary voice-over.
It will ultimately be judged by it longevity and by players. This is where you should be concerned because while Bioware is good as spinning a yarn they are terrible at content past a main story arch.
What else, pray tall, do they have to review with exactly? Even when an MMO is out of beta it is, at retail release, pretty much moved on to a paid beta. If the game isn't enjoyable to play now, its not going to be by launch.
The proper thing to do would to never review an MMO for any reason, as everything is subject to change within three months to a year or even two or three years. That review will stand for all time, yet grow completely outdated over time.
Most people that have previewed it say that it is highly derivative of WoW with the usual Bioware story flavoring. And tons of unecessary voice-over.
It will ultimately be judged by it longevity and by players. This is where you should be concerned because while Bioware is good as spinning a yarn they are terrible at content past a main story arch.
@The Silent Protagonist
That is your opinion, in which you're entitled to.
My issue with the way GamePro approached the review is that they didn't put effort into exploring the game. It breaks rule 1 of what I think makes for a decent review. (I know TOR is an MMO and that you can't ever really "finish" it, but going past level 15 isn't too much to ask.) It felt close-minded. And some of the issues they complained about were because it's a beta; those issues would be polished upon released (stuck bugs, graphic glitches, and the like). And I know people argue that at release every MMO is a glorified paid beta, but again, that's your opinion. I think otherwise. Nothing wrong with that. But I feel for journalistic integrity a product should be reviewed when it is considered ready for general public release even if there's more content to be added later on, not when it's in testing.
From what you appear to be inferring, you're making it out as though I love BioWare. I don't. I dislike Mass Effect and Dragon Age. KOTOR and Jade Empire had its moments, but I don't worship BW like some people do. And you're right, the game will be judged based on longevity of it's user base. But even then it sounds like you're already basing your opinion on the reviews of others by making claims it's a WoW clone with a BW wrapper.
I guess what I'm trying to get at is be your own judge. Pick up the game and play it yourself before you start forming your own opinions. And I don't mean just TOR. Any game that you may have a bias against try playing it and see what happens.
That is your opinion, in which you're entitled to.
My issue with the way GamePro approached the review is that they didn't put effort into exploring the game. It breaks rule 1 of what I think makes for a decent review. (I know TOR is an MMO and that you can't ever really "finish" it, but going past level 15 isn't too much to ask.) It felt close-minded. And some of the issues they complained about were because it's a beta; those issues would be polished upon released (stuck bugs, graphic glitches, and the like). And I know people argue that at release every MMO is a glorified paid beta, but again, that's your opinion. I think otherwise. Nothing wrong with that. But I feel for journalistic integrity a product should be reviewed when it is considered ready for general public release even if there's more content to be added later on, not when it's in testing.
From what you appear to be inferring, you're making it out as though I love BioWare. I don't. I dislike Mass Effect and Dragon Age. KOTOR and Jade Empire had its moments, but I don't worship BW like some people do. And you're right, the game will be judged based on longevity of it's user base. But even then it sounds like you're already basing your opinion on the reviews of others by making claims it's a WoW clone with a BW wrapper.
I guess what I'm trying to get at is be your own judge. Pick up the game and play it yourself before you start forming your own opinions. And I don't mean just TOR. Any game that you may have a bias against try playing it and see what happens.
I didn't infer anything about you that I can tell.
WoW with a SW/BW wrapper is what every preview has suggested, along with those dishing out impressions of the beta. They say the story and character interactions are good, but the animations are terrible and the combat isn't all that inspired.
Also, it requires Origin and paying EA to play it. Two things I'm not interested in, really.
WoW with a SW/BW wrapper is what every preview has suggested, along with those dishing out impressions of the beta. They say the story and character interactions are good, but the animations are terrible and the combat isn't all that inspired.
Also, it requires Origin and paying EA to play it. Two things I'm not interested in, really.
I actually think that reviews of kid's games are often much much better than adult oriented reviews. When buying games for my nieces or nephews, kid's games often mention overlooked aspects of games. For example, with the Lego Star Wars games it mentions how it has same screen co-op gameplay and that kids can learn to play together. The reviews of kid's games look at both negative factors as well as any redeeming values to the game. They seem much more indepth regarding all that the game offers and don't tend to be as oriented to sound/graphics which are usually mentioned in one sentence rather than several paragraphs.
Overall, they seem more concerned with the actual gameplay... which is something often lacking from reviews of adult games.
Overall, they seem more concerned with the actual gameplay... which is something often lacking from reviews of adult games.

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