I love awkward humour. I was a big fan on The Office, I love Reno911 and have always had a thing for
Mr Shake Hands Man from Banzai. Hell, I’ve even sniggered at
Dennis Pennis. So when Anthony mentioned that
Robert Summa would be on Podtoid I thought it might be a damn good laugh.
It started off pretty well, just seemed like a normal show, Rev asked what games they’ve been playing, and they talked a little about Burn Zombie Burn (did I detect a little uncomfortable pause after
Summa said something? It seemed like Jim wasn’t sure if to make a joke or not? )
Of course, it didn’t take long for Rev to take
Summa to task for taking credit for Destructoid and claiming that he was the man that made them. Totally fair enough, he can’t expect to make claims like that and not ruffle feathers.
But then it just kept going and it occurred to me it was less entertaining and more just beating a dead horse. Fuck, not saying that the horse didn’t deserve to be beaten, but I kind of felt that Rev was expecting an apology from
Summa whereas It was clear after 30mins or so that he wasn’t going to get it.
I’m sure Rev’s intended purpose for the show was to show the Dtoid community that
Summa is indeed an asshole, but it didn’t really seem necessary and almost became more bullying than anything. It’s obvious
Summa doesn’t see that acknowledging being an asshole is not the same as apologizing for it, and at times he couldn’t even understand Rev’s jokes about him being a kiddy fiddler.
Actually, i guess it was more like beating a dead horse, that was also autistic.
The best analogy I can think of is it’s like when I saw science graduates arguing with fundamentalist (with no university education) about carbon dating and feeling great about it. I still love Rev but felt that this whole show did him a disservice. He’s better than that.
I can’t seem to see any record of the show on Podtoid.com so maybe that’s why it's not on the front page (or for some other completely unrelated reason or that I missed it). It wasn’t as much entertaining as it made me feel like an outsider listening to a public argument. Awkward, but not funny awkward. Okay, some of the pedophile jokes were pretty funny. Okay, maybe a lot. But still….
Maybe I’m alone on this one. I don’t know, but that’s how I feel anyway.
p.s. Yes, everybody sees through Summa’s frat boy defense response.
UPDATE : On reflection If the podcast made me think enough to write a cblog about it, and also reflect on what it was exactly that made me uncomfortable it was a good thing.
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I had no fucking idea what you were talking about until I refreshed my iTunes. Bonus episode, good stuff. I'll have to listen when I get home later.
I like the Summa links.
I'm only through half of it. I think a lot of the stuff he asks for when he says stupid ps3 fanboy stuff. That just made him sound retarded. So far the ps3 fanboy stuff they've been throwing at him are justified.
When I listen to the rest I'll see if my opinion changes.
All I do know is that next week BETTER be Street Fighter commentary. Fuckin A.
I thought this podcast was very informative. I hadn't had the robert summa experience before.
And now i feel violated.
Just like his previ...you know.
This is a weird post. I don't agree, mainly because he should have apologised and backed down instead of reeling of lines and lines of hypocritical bullshit. If he didn't keep making up bad excuses, the thing would have been over in 5 minutes. I did find it really uncomfortable but it was entirely down to Summa's personality rather than any slight against Anthony or Jim. In fact, I thought their conduct was fucking brilliant. I was really hoping that Summa would tough it out, but it just came across as incredibly insecure and petrified of being criticised.
To be honest, I wasn't really sure how much of a douchebag Summa was. I hadn't listened to any old Podtoid, and all the info about him I got through jokes told by Rev and Linde. But, having listened to that episode, I can say, with all conviction, that Summa is the biggest jackass I have ever heard on the internet. He's too stupid to be a troll, and it seems like his favorite past time is saying something, then make a point to say the exact opposite thing later on to either reinforce another bullshit point, or save himself some embarrassment, which is next to impossible.
I have seen the Summa that everyone talks about. And I want to pour gasoline on him and cut off his ear.
"The best analogy I can think of is it’s like when I saw science graduates arguing with fundamentalist (with no university education) about carbon dating and feeling great about it."
I know that was kind of meant to be a statement of how not-great the show was, but if whatever Summa's positions were ended up seeming that clearly incorrect, that actually kind of feels like a compliment.
@Pendleton
"I have seen the Summa that everyone talks about. And I want to pour gasoline on him and cut off his ear. "
I'm putting that in my profile quotes.
Well, at least Jim made a new BFF out of the whole deal.
@Anthony: I know that was kind of meant to be a statement of how not-great the show was, but if whatever Summa's positions were ended up seeming that clearly incorrect, that actually kind of feels like a compliment.
No you can totally take that as a compliment, His opinions were glaringly messed up. I guess i just get a bit uncomfortable when smart people point out the flaws of not-so smart people.
I felt rather similar, though in the end, no one came out clean; Summa is Summa, only now with a redemptive angle, Rev was his lovably angry self, but in vain the whole time and Jim barely spoke. It had some great moments but I had to pause it at times and come back to it later due to my discomfort with it.
WAIT. I lied, someone does come out of this looking good...Geraldo Beedog. His JOURNALISM was the envy of all on the podcast.
That shit was so awkward... I can't say I really enjoyed it, and I agree that it didn't do Rev any favors. Just kinda made him look like a bully.