I don't really care what she said to Dice... my main concern would be why would they want a feminist viewpoint on their games when they have so few female gamers? Why aren't they doing simple surveys among female gamers to see what they want in a game - it's really not all that hard to do seeing as how most xbox/PS3 gamers identify their gender on their profile and allow for 3rd party contact.
Feminist does not equal "majority female viewpoint". If they want to create a game that might be critically acclaimed among the feminist press, then yes, I can see them hiring Ms. Sarkeesian. If they want to tap into that massive market of female gamers playing social games, then no, this will likely not do anything to attract a large female demographic and in fact it may well do the opposite.
... my other concern would be that she just got over $100,000 from her backers for her opinions on a bunch of video games she went out and bought. Is her first responsibility not to producing these videos instead of trotting around speaking to developers.
Meh... I just don't understand why everyone is making such a huge deal out of her. Even other feminists don't agree with her viewpoints on many of her previous works. I'm really not sure what developers hope to gain through having her give talks - aside from bad press from one fanatical side and good press from the other fanatics... and tired resignation from those in the middle who are a bit tired of the controversy she seems to constantly evoke.
... and while she might be a gamer, I tend to agree with you that she's not a GAMER. There's a difference between someone who plays the occasional game and those gamers that play most every night and haunt game related websites. For one thing, a gamer wouldn't have needed to buy 300 games ... they would already own them or would ask for donation copies of the few games they hadn't played that might be needed for a specific web series. Still, she might be quite reflective of that average gamer that plays iOS games and the occasional console game. Most of us that hang out on sites like Dtoid are probably the minority in the gaming world... even with our ravenous consumption of games.
Feminist does not equal "majority female viewpoint". If they want to create a game that might be critically acclaimed among the feminist press, then yes, I can see them hiring Ms. Sarkeesian. If they want to tap into that massive market of female gamers playing social games, then no, this will likely not do anything to attract a large female demographic and in fact it may well do the opposite.
... my other concern would be that she just got over $100,000 from her backers for her opinions on a bunch of video games she went out and bought. Is her first responsibility not to producing these videos instead of trotting around speaking to developers.
Meh... I just don't understand why everyone is making such a huge deal out of her. Even other feminists don't agree with her viewpoints on many of her previous works. I'm really not sure what developers hope to gain through having her give talks - aside from bad press from one fanatical side and good press from the other fanatics... and tired resignation from those in the middle who are a bit tired of the controversy she seems to constantly evoke.
... and while she might be a gamer, I tend to agree with you that she's not a GAMER. There's a difference between someone who plays the occasional game and those gamers that play most every night and haunt game related websites. For one thing, a gamer wouldn't have needed to buy 300 games ... they would already own them or would ask for donation copies of the few games they hadn't played that might be needed for a specific web series. Still, she might be quite reflective of that average gamer that plays iOS games and the occasional console game. Most of us that hang out on sites like Dtoid are probably the minority in the gaming world... even with our ravenous consumption of games.
@Elsa
Don't worry to much on the dice thing, its largely being viewed as another desperation tactic from EA.
The control thing really irks me, because she says it so sure of herself, women have trouble with the controls, I sure as fuck don't, I didn't with Mirror's and I sure as hell never had trouble with any game unless it wasn't obtuse. That's really my main beef with this woman, she speaks like she speaks for all of us.
Don't worry to much on the dice thing, its largely being viewed as another desperation tactic from EA.
The control thing really irks me, because she says it so sure of herself, women have trouble with the controls, I sure as fuck don't, I didn't with Mirror's and I sure as hell never had trouble with any game unless it wasn't obtuse. That's really my main beef with this woman, she speaks like she speaks for all of us.
@Nanbu... then I think the whole thing will backfire badly on EA.
I don't actually understand why Ms. Sarkeesian would give her critics such potent ammunition by giving talks to developers before her web series is produced. From the rumour mill, she apparently gave this talk in Sweden... and I doubt she flew herself over and paid all her expenses for the sake of a 2 hour or so presentation. If EA paid for her to go and be essentially a consultant, then this cannot help but color her opinions of any EA games she might critique in her web series.
... it would be the equivalent of Jim getting a free trip to Sweden and then giving Battlefield 3 a review score of 9.
Even if she's harsh towards EA games in her videos, there will still be lingering doubts about her impartiality. It seems very odd of her to create this potential conflict of interest.
I don't actually understand why Ms. Sarkeesian would give her critics such potent ammunition by giving talks to developers before her web series is produced. From the rumour mill, she apparently gave this talk in Sweden... and I doubt she flew herself over and paid all her expenses for the sake of a 2 hour or so presentation. If EA paid for her to go and be essentially a consultant, then this cannot help but color her opinions of any EA games she might critique in her web series.
... it would be the equivalent of Jim getting a free trip to Sweden and then giving Battlefield 3 a review score of 9.
Even if she's harsh towards EA games in her videos, there will still be lingering doubts about her impartiality. It seems very odd of her to create this potential conflict of interest.
WTF, where did my comment go? ANDY! I ain't re-typing that. I'll sum it up like this: the controls comment, seems demeaning to me.
Man, if Mirror's Edge 2 sucks, or the controls aren't PERFECT, everyone is going to blame her for it.
I actually like the first one enough that I'd have been content with more of the same.
Also, the whole comment on the controls being to hard for women seems so self defeating.
I actually like the first one enough that I'd have been content with more of the same.
Also, the whole comment on the controls being to hard for women seems so self defeating.
Ooooooh, Phil's gonna get banned!!!
Also, Mirror's Edge had difficult controls? Mother of God, don't let her have any input on anything remotely related to gameplay.
Also, Mirror's Edge had difficult controls? Mother of God, don't let her have any input on anything remotely related to gameplay.
@Kyosuke Nanbu
Exactly. She just seems like a pompous, narcissistic ass, and an under-informed one, at that.
Exactly. She just seems like a pompous, narcissistic ass, and an under-informed one, at that.
@Phil I agree you didn't say anything bad and it is weird.......... maybe the phantom of the cblogs is at it again ?
.. the site has been odd lately. I keep losing comments when the site goes "over capacity" (that wonderful Mike Turvey drawing... that I love, but am getting tired of seeing). The more recent odd thing is that all my open tabs sometimes seem to revert to the main page... rather than the article or blog I had open.
Not sure if they are making changes to the site or whether it's just very stressed... but yeah, I tend to use the quicknote Firefox app to type all my longer comments and then just copy/paste to the blog or article. I have to admit that often I've lost a long comment (actually on your racism blog Phil) and just never got around to re-typing it out or remembering what I've said. :(
Not sure if they are making changes to the site or whether it's just very stressed... but yeah, I tend to use the quicknote Firefox app to type all my longer comments and then just copy/paste to the blog or article. I have to admit that often I've lost a long comment (actually on your racism blog Phil) and just never got around to re-typing it out or remembering what I've said. :(
@Elsa well Jim Sterling has hinted about some new site upgrades happening / planned to happen in the not too distant future so it could be the starts of that causing problems.

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