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I Hate My Age Group.
TheDRMaster | 3:02 PM on 09.21.2009 47 comments


And here's why. Many of you do not know this, although I've made it a point in my other blogs, I am a young gamer. At the age of 15, I'm often grouped in with the "adolescent" crowd. The actual age, however, is not the problem. Call me an adolescent, that's not what bothers me. What bothers me is that I'm at the same level as these pricks Jim Sterling keeps ranting about. I'm here to state my case: Not all younger gamers are rude, immature idiots. There's a revolution happening, my fellow DToiders. A revolution of mature, polite, and considerate young'ins. And I'm a part of it.





I started gaming at the age of three. This was the time of Diddy Kong Racing and Rayman 2. I never got to enjoy the "true" classics, such as the original Final Fantasy or Megaman titles. Although I'm not particularly fond of these retro games, I'm humbled by the fact that they exist, and many gamers love them. My entry into gaming was successful and, well, awesome. My entry into online gaming, however, was not. At the age of 11 I picked up Counter Strike: Source and played it heavily. I wasn't the best at the game, but I could keep myself out of last place. My Counter Strike days did not last long after I got my microphone, though. When I plugged in and said a quick "Hey, guys, what's up?", the entire server was in an uproar. I honestly wanted to have a nice, civil conversation, but was shot down because my 11-year-old voice was high-pitched. Four years later, I play on the very same server I did that faithful day, and am a part of the flourishing community. So there's a little info on where I come from.

What angers me is that people my age get a bad rep. My "peers", if you will, are the ones flaming forums for no reason and calling you a "st00p1d faggot" on Xbox Live. It infuriates me to know that I'm categorized as one of these people. Being a younger gamer is no longer a blessing, being one of millions who share the same hobby. No, I'm now grouped together with these little shits who just learned the word "fuck" on Xbox Live.

So with this, I'm imploring you, Destructoid, to see younger gamers with a different perspective. I am NOT following the young gamer stereotype. I am a mature, responsible person, and I want to be on the same level as older gamers. Allow me to apologize for my peers, and let me assure you that I'm here to make a difference.



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Bulkmailer's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 15:44
Bulkmailer
GT: Bulkmailer
Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 16:00
Dan CiTi
I agree.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 16:04
EternalDeathSlayer
GT: Kobewan0824
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 16:05
EternalDeathSlayer
God I fail.

GT: Kobewan0869
HuttyLoca's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 16:07
HuttyLoca
Relax dude.

I wish I was 15 again.
Takeshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 16:09
Takeshi
Guess what? You write better blogs than many of the older people here. Good job.
Patters's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 16:09
Patters
Firstly a slight correction, withthe age you have said you are you couldn't have played rayman 2 at the age of 3, it came out in 1999. I do sort of feel that online gaming should have an age rating (say 16 years and above) just so that the horrible amount of profanities voiced by a minority of players can be hopefully reduced. One thing which irritates me is when a kid who s clearly below the age specified is playing a game, especially online.
Electro Lemon's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 16:10
Electro Lemon
LOL YOUR SO YUNG (i'm seventeen.)

GT: electro lemon
Sonic9jct's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 16:18
Sonic9jct
@Electro Lemon
I'm in the same boat as you, man, but I think it's worth saying that this two year difference is the difference between our first consoles being SNES/Genesis. Odd, but that's where the cutoff really starts.
Sonic9jct's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 16:19
Sonic9jct
@Electro Lemon
I'm in the same boat as you, man, but I think it's worth saying that this two year difference is the difference between our first consoles being SNES/Genesis or PS1/N64. Odd, but that's where the cutoff really starts.
Kyle MacGregor's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 16:21
Kyle MacGregor
Stereotypes are something that we cannot avoid or get past in our day and age. They will always follow us around, in the back of our minds, even if we try to surpress them. While, I might see you and not think of you in that poor light and won't think of you negatively, I have encountered others if not more "adolescents" that fit the stereotype to reinforce it and perpetuate it. No matter how well you act, they are going to be the ones that get all the attention at the end of the day. So while you might seperate yourself from that, I find it unlikely that you will start a revolution. Even if there are a hundred of you, one kid on his mic screaming obsenities whilst playing Halo can ruin all you have done.

People are always going to descriminate because of age. I know this too well, looking young for my age. I remember a friend of mine and I being asked to leave a college party a couple years back because people didn't want "highschoolers" around. I still get carded at game stores and movie theatres. Most recently, I was kicked out of a 21 and older hot tub at a beach club because I didn't have my ID on me and the staff didn't believe me. I think that you just have to deal with your age and what goes with it. People are always going to judge you for being a whippersnapper or an old coot and you can't do much about it.

On a separate note, I find it incredibly odd that Diddy Kong Racing is something you played as a small child. For me those titles were from the late NES and early SNES era. However, people a few years older than me might find it odd that A Link to the Past was my first Zelda.
Lurfadur's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 16:24
Lurfadur
I played the original Counter-Strike when I was about 13 years old. Online gaming has changed a lot since then, most notably in-game mic support, and I honestly don't know if that is a good or bad thing. I know that if I had a mic and tried to use it at that age I would have also been yelled at and been called a n00b even though I was usually halfway up on the scoreboard (it's easy to beat stoners even at that age).

I disagree with slapping on an age limit for online gaming that would be separate from what the ESRB has on the front. The older generation needs to realize that kids nowadays are not always voice spamming noobs who team kill for the fun of it. And younger gamers need to be more mature about how they handle themselves online and be respectful of others. But this is unlikely to happen because the internet is backwards-vile.
ZServ's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 16:26
ZServ
GT: ZServ
Technophile's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 16:28
Technophile
As the opposite end of the spectrum (I'm 32), it's usually my age group that gives you the hardest time. Can't say it's unfounded, but if you continue to be a normal person, I don't see why you would get any grief at least not after the original volley.

Some kids are all right, just like some adults are all right. The rest are a bunch of idiots. :D
sstryker20's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 16:32
sstryker20
You sir, are more mature than about 95% of people on the internet. Why can't people be mature like you I'll never know.
bluexy's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 16:42
bluexy
69 (LOL)

Ya ok.
MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 16:46
MrSadistic
is this GT awareness day or something
Jesus H Christ's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 16:49
Jesus H Christ
I felt like this when I was your age. Protip: that feeling never goes away, because humanity of all ages will continue to suck.

Pessimism!
blehman's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 16:52
blehman
I hate your age group too.
TheDRMaster's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 17:06
TheDRMaster
@bluexy

Yeah it was a lame joke. xD

@Patters

I didn't get Rayman 2 when I was 3, but it was one of the games I grew up with and love.
Knivy's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 17:12
Knivy
Well, it's not like we could love your age group, that would probably be illegal :P.
Wexx's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 17:14
Wexx
Unfortunately, you'll get that until you "grow-up". The only thing you can do is just hope that people give you a chance and don't go by their first impression of you.
Or you can just come here and keep posting awesome Cblogs, that gets my attention.
Also: lol Counter-Strike ;)
Tyler Jones's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 17:35
Tyler Jones
Good to have you here.
AngelsDontBurn's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 17:35
AngelsDontBurn
I'm a decade older than you. Blows my mind.
theredpepperofdoom's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 17:40
theredpepperofdoom
You and me both, DRMaster. I'm usually scared of writing a cblog on Destructoid just because I am the young age of 15. Stupid Halo-playing kids and their microphones, they ruin everything in life.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 17:53
Jonathan Holmes
Here's the thing, if you don't want people to discriminate against people your age, maybe you ought to avoid doing it yourself.

Just sayin'.

Otherwise, good shootin', Tex.
Topher Cantler's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 18:04
Topher Cantler
Blehman beat me to it.

Nonetheless, welcome. You've already accepted one of life's great truths, which is that teenagers are stupid. People don't usually find that out until they aren't one anymore, so that makes you wise beyond your years in my book. I wouldn't worry about it. Trust me, you'll be old before you know it.
ace of knaves's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 18:07
ace of knaves
Yeah, I'm sixteen and I'm pretty much in the same boat. Although whenever people talk about stupid teenagers I can generally agree without being bothered that much by the stereotype because I take pride in my blatant superiority.
Clockwork-Zombie's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 18:17
Clockwork-Zombie
Being someone who is also 15 I always seem to find this problem when playing online which is why I have rarely used voice chat in the past. Part of why I have always liked the internet is how it has let become a part of a community like Dtoid without being immediately put into the idiotic 12 year old Halo player stereotype. I have been around Dtoid for over two years but have never really said anything about my age as to avoid this problem.
Also on a side note, my introduction to gaming was when I was 2 or 3 and on the NES and GameBoy which were my older brother's. I was introduced to the N64 later in it's lifespan and only acquired a SNES about a year and a half ago.
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 18:46
Elsa
Actually I've gamed with many younger gamers (including some 15 year olds) and you're quite right that many of them are mature teamplayers who are polite and a lot of fun to game with.
I also know what you mean about the prejudice... I'm female, but I have a lower voice and am sometimes mistaken for a "15 year old boy"... and yes, the comments were derogatory (and I'm actually 47... I can barely even remember being 15! LOL!).

People's actions tend to speak louder than their words... however I should also note that for some reason younger male gamers can be annoyingly persistent in their quest to get a female gamer on their buddy list (even if she's 47...so it must be some sort of status thing) and I've never had this situation with an older person (probably because older people are reluctant to beg, whereas young guys don't seem to mind begging for some reason!). It's kind of cute, but I still don't add them but feel bad about it. There are some factors that are just age-related, so while you may get lumped in with the "kids" it's just up to you to prove you're different.
(and again, being a female gamer I too often get lumped into the "grrl gamer" category... and I'm just a gamer, not a "grrl" gamer).

... if that makes sense at all...
lwelyk's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 18:48
lwelyk
I didn't like my agegroup when I was 15 either. I don't like my current agegroup of 18 much either. Maybe the problem is with me...
Nicojay2's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 19:07
Nicojay2
There are kids that learnt the word "fuck" on Xbox live? You see, in my day we learnt that kind of language at school. Kids these days and their technological learningings.
Usedtabe's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 20:24
Usedtabe
I play regularly with a 15 yr old. He's the best teammate ever, and handles all the jabs we throw at him in stride.
Gyrael's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 20:41
Gyrael
Who doesn't?
adultswim810's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 20:46
adultswim810
Hola senor. Im 15 aswell. we should be friends. Also no one ever flamed me for my voice, it is terrifyingly deep.
zgerhard's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 20:56
zgerhard
what's gt mean
garison's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 21:48
garison
I'm 17. I agree with your blog.

=D
ChronosWing's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 22:57
ChronosWing
@zgerhand

Get off the bandwagon. Ask your mommy for a 360 for Christmas.

@DRMaster

GT:ChronosWing

I don't mind playing with 15 year olds as long as they aren't illegitimate fuck heads. Just read zgerhand's comment.
ChronosWing's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 22:59
ChronosWing
I redact my last comment about zgerhand, I mistook him for another 360 bashing ps3 fanboy on here. Sorry bro.
Fogo's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 23:40
Fogo
It's hard to do that when I constantly encounter people that are younger than me who are being pricks on my xbox360. It's usually around that age group that does this to me constantly. I'll understand that some of you guys are not all jackholes, but most of the ones I run into are.
Chocobo Knight's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 23:53
Chocobo Knight
If I was 15 again, I wish there had been something like Destructoid to find a place to fit in with other like-minded gamers. When I was 15 back in 1995, there were a handful of local BBS, AOL chat (*shudder*) and eventually the rise of MUD-type games. While a few good people could be found, there wasn't too much sense of community. I didn't have any true geeky RL friends till I was about to graduate from high school, so I can understand feeling like a fish out of water for a long time. On top of that, I was often met with disbelief simply for being a gamer that happened to be female. It was annoying. It was aggravating. I put up with it and I still have to in my current life. I'm with Elsa; I'm just here to game, damnit.

I've been mistaken for a young man once or twice during the few rare times I dug out my headset when playing some MP game on Xbox Live. I usually have fun with it though, because my retorts are usually something they aren't expecting.

Enough rambling on my part, the community here is friendly to those that seek this kind of camaraderie. The troublesome ones are hounded after and usually leave the site either by their own will, shape up or result in bannage. You can't help that you're 15, but you can show the maturity that your words already seem to have.

Honestly, age has no meaning between friends. :)
MellowBunny's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 00:20
MellowBunny
I never want to be 15 again! It still surpries me at times that I'm 20 years old and in 10 years I'll be 30.

I look back at teenagers today and I always think to myself, "was I really that dumb?".

Overall I agree with you.
Char Aznable's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 09:57
Char Aznable
If I may completely ignore the topic at hand, how the hell are you going to pick "SaveTheCatgirls" for your gamertag and NOT get that Felicia gamer picture?
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 10:38
Holyetheline
I'm 23 and I don't hate.
Wintersocks's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 10:43
Wintersocks
I do. I play on Garry's Mod a lot, and the twelve year olds are very often skilled admins, and completely outclass me when it comes to building. Oh and if you hear a high pitched "hello" on an online shooter. If it calls you a faggot, then you can start dissing him (or not if you have some decency left in you)
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