With Internet rumors running amuck these days, screens of Sony’s upcoming trophy system have appeared, along with details regarding the system and firmware 2.4. One of Microsoft’s proverbial feathers in the cap has been the Achievement system and cumulative Gamerscore. For almost 3yrs, 360 owners have enjoyed the lil pat on the back developers had given by using the system and rewarding gamers for the obvious…playing. If the rumors are true, Sony’s trophy system sounds like it’s finally catching up in terms of features and may actually have a more robust scoring/accomplishment/achievement system. Instead of a simple total score “I have more points than you” setup, PS3 owners will have 4 types of trophies (Bronze, Silver, Gold and Platinum) to try and unlock.
Upon unlocking an undisclosed number of trophies, that cumulative total will then increase your “gamer card” a level. The more levels you gain, the more trophies you must unlock. Each trophy will be worth a certain number of points and each game will only contain a certain number of each trophy. Gamers will also be able to compare “scores” with other PSN users, although specifics were not disclosed. If these rumors/leaks turn out to be true, has Sony innovated on a scoring system that 360 owners have enjoyed and praised or merely half heartedly copied an existing setup? Now that Sony has prepared the PS3 to take the 360 head on with its services and features, is it too late to matter? With an ever increasing library of games, more 360 “exclusives” making their appearance on the platform, more titles with PS3 lead SKU, HOME and the competition’s lineup’s looking rather “meh”, what can Microsoft do to counter this? Should they even care?
MS, won't care seeing as thier system of achievements is already estabilshed, maybe next gen they will revamp it.
MS really can't do anything to counter this, it's up to the games to do that, but by the way in which MS is implementing possible motion control and that stoooooopid avatar system, akin to Mii's, it seems as they will likely shoot theselves in the foot, the average consumer is confused enough this gen.
Sony IS building brigdes to combat the competition, this 'trophy' system does have it's advantages, but don't expect it to really make an impact on us, I for one could give less of a shit about this, I play my ps3 for the games, not to be a fucking achievement whore. This is merely a bonus, and the ps3 has yet to fully show it's potential.
The 360 on the other hand, at the moment, is leading the way.
I hope it replicates what the achievement point system has done, for me, on the 360.
I now play games more than once because there...fuck it. I like achievement points. I think they bring something awesome to games, and I hope Sony can do the same.
Uh oh.... "1up the 360".... those are fighting words. lol
Personally I could less about achievements or trophies. MS has done a good job of establishing their achievement and gamerscore system. Lots of people enjoy it and that is great for them. There are probably PS3 owners who want the system,so it is good that Sony is trying to provide it for them. Whether it is Sony, MS or Nintendo, if they can give their customers what they want that is great.
I think Sony said all of Sony's games and 80% of third party stuff will be supporting the trophies.
That could have been a rumor though, so don't quote me on that.
Y'know what? That is an intriguing question, I got some old ps3 games recently, I wonder if the devs will release a patch in order to enable this, I hope not, there really is nothing worst than sitting through endless patch install screens, I have over 20 ps3 games, I hope to god sony somehow activates the system of trophies with the corresponding game(s), WITHOUT, the need for further patches.
I think games this year will support them, but last year I am not so sure about
games that already tracked mini achievements will have no problem if the devs want. ie medals in Uncharted, trophies in Pain. Doesn't matter; the score doesn't get you anything special so I don't care if it backlogs or not.
It's just nice to get a reward for doing random stuff and/or fully exploring a game etc
I really don't think so. Achievements have already solidified itself in Xbox 360, and while it's nice to see the PS3 following suit, it just won't be the same or have the same effect.
Achievements are great. The only way to make the achievement system better, would be to let those achievements also be able to be cashed in online, so we can get free arcade points to spend on more games.
If MS did this, I know I'd always choose my 360 for games.
If they want to "1up" the XBOX360 Sony needs to make the achievements have some type of meaning. Have a special achievement store with items such as games, wallpapers, and HOME accesories that can only be purchased with achievement points.
as much as I couldn't care less about these stupid point systems, I hope that this is a huge success for Sony. If people like it, people will buy more games and therefore developers will begin pumping out more and more games and maybe if we are lucky we will get some good ones. and some better DLC PLEASE!
I think you are giving a little to much credit to Sony on a few points. The only multiplatform game I can remember being lead platform was Burnout Paradise, I'm sure I'm missing a few but even then I'm guessing no more than 10 non exclusive games were PS3 lead platform this last year.
Home is another application I think will cease to be interesting to the average gamer after a couple weeks of playing around in it. The integration with games they announced a few months back does sound cool but everything else seems like Myspace the game.
Calling Msoft's lineup being meh seems a little harsh since Sony doesn't have much left for this year. Sony has blown their load for the year with MGS4. Sure LBP will come out and I'll buy it but I'm still not sure if there will be enough creative people to make good levels to keep it going after a few months. I'm sure Resistance 2 will do great but I've still got a sour taste in my mouth from how boring and over-hyped the first game was. Microsoft on the other hand has Too Human, Left 4 Dead, Fable 2, Gears of War 2, and Banjo Kazooie all coming out this year and possibly Alan Wake (if only) and Halo Wars as well. It's a murderers row of lineups.
M$ shouldn't really care, as their system is really good for what it is. The Gamerscore is kinda cool, though I confess I don't usually go for acquiring extra points. I think the Trophy idea is really cool, and if HOME ends up being a viable program, inviting friends "over" to look at your "trophy room" could be be a lot of fun. We'll see. As a new PS3 owner, MGS4 Bundle FTW!, I'm looking forward to seeing what they can do with it.
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I'm gonna go with a "probably not"
I'm pretty certain, those rumors are false, but if I'm wrong this does sound pretty nice.
I don't think Achievements are an important factor in what console you choose though, so Microsoft shouldn't care much about this.
It's just the same pointless reward system with a different name as far as I'm concerned.
MS, won't care seeing as thier system of achievements is already estabilshed, maybe next gen they will revamp it.
MS really can't do anything to counter this, it's up to the games to do that, but by the way in which MS is implementing possible motion control and that stoooooopid avatar system, akin to Mii's, it seems as they will likely shoot theselves in the foot, the average consumer is confused enough this gen.
Sony IS building brigdes to combat the competition, this 'trophy' system does have it's advantages, but don't expect it to really make an impact on us, I for one could give less of a shit about this, I play my ps3 for the games, not to be a fucking achievement whore. This is merely a bonus, and the ps3 has yet to fully show it's potential.
The 360 on the other hand, at the moment, is leading the way.
I hope it replicates what the achievement point system has done, for me, on the 360.
I now play games more than once because there...fuck it. I like achievement points. I think they bring something awesome to games, and I hope Sony can do the same.
/talking about cheevos every again
Uh oh.... "1up the 360".... those are fighting words. lol
Personally I could less about achievements or trophies. MS has done a good job of establishing their achievement and gamerscore system. Lots of people enjoy it and that is great for them. There are probably PS3 owners who want the system,so it is good that Sony is trying to provide it for them. Whether it is Sony, MS or Nintendo, if they can give their customers what they want that is great.
I think Sony said all of Sony's games and 80% of third party stuff will be supporting the trophies.
That could have been a rumor though, so don't quote me on that.
@THE WRATH
Y'know what? That is an intriguing question, I got some old ps3 games recently, I wonder if the devs will release a patch in order to enable this, I hope not, there really is nothing worst than sitting through endless patch install screens, I have over 20 ps3 games, I hope to god sony somehow activates the system of trophies with the corresponding game(s), WITHOUT, the need for further patches.
I think games this year will support them, but last year I am not so sure about
games that already tracked mini achievements will have no problem if the devs want. ie medals in Uncharted, trophies in Pain. Doesn't matter; the score doesn't get you anything special so I don't care if it backlogs or not.
It's just nice to get a reward for doing random stuff and/or fully exploring a game etc
Once the 3D trophies come out with Home(not this 2D stuff with 2.4), yes. It is possible.
I really don't think so. Achievements have already solidified itself in Xbox 360, and while it's nice to see the PS3 following suit, it just won't be the same or have the same effect.
Achievements are great. The only way to make the achievement system better, would be to let those achievements also be able to be cashed in online, so we can get free arcade points to spend on more games.
If MS did this, I know I'd always choose my 360 for games.
If they want to "1up" the XBOX360 Sony needs to make the achievements have some type of meaning. Have a special achievement store with items such as games, wallpapers, and HOME accesories that can only be purchased with achievement points.
If Sony did this I would be HOOKED !!!
I WANT VALIDATION FOR MY GAMING PROWESS!!!
as much as I couldn't care less about these stupid point systems, I hope that this is a huge success for Sony. If people like it, people will buy more games and therefore developers will begin pumping out more and more games and maybe if we are lucky we will get some good ones. and some better DLC PLEASE!
I think you are giving a little to much credit to Sony on a few points. The only multiplatform game I can remember being lead platform was Burnout Paradise, I'm sure I'm missing a few but even then I'm guessing no more than 10 non exclusive games were PS3 lead platform this last year.
Home is another application I think will cease to be interesting to the average gamer after a couple weeks of playing around in it. The integration with games they announced a few months back does sound cool but everything else seems like Myspace the game.
Calling Msoft's lineup being meh seems a little harsh since Sony doesn't have much left for this year. Sony has blown their load for the year with MGS4. Sure LBP will come out and I'll buy it but I'm still not sure if there will be enough creative people to make good levels to keep it going after a few months. I'm sure Resistance 2 will do great but I've still got a sour taste in my mouth from how boring and over-hyped the first game was. Microsoft on the other hand has Too Human, Left 4 Dead, Fable 2, Gears of War 2, and Banjo Kazooie all coming out this year and possibly Alan Wake (if only) and Halo Wars as well. It's a murderers row of lineups.
M$ shouldn't really care, as their system is really good for what it is. The Gamerscore is kinda cool, though I confess I don't usually go for acquiring extra points. I think the Trophy idea is really cool, and if HOME ends up being a viable program, inviting friends "over" to look at your "trophy room" could be be a lot of fun. We'll see. As a new PS3 owner, MGS4 Bundle FTW!, I'm looking forward to seeing what they can do with it.
no
Honestly dont care about this...
unless it proves I can shoot down the UT3 Jesus...
PROTIP: Microsoft doesn't care; they're already 75% done with the new "Xbox".
left 4 dead is NOT a 360 game.
Achievements/Trophies are all the same..nothing. I play games to play games. Now bring on in game XMB Sony.
Left 4 Dead not a 360 game? It is now, as that's where all the sales will largely be, with PC cuts backing it up.
And as with Bioshock, it'll be the 360 version that gets the press more.
"It's opinion. Too Human, Banjo, Fable and Halo Wars do nothing for me. Socom, R2, Infamous, LBP and Motorstorm do."
I second that.
WRATH:
Surely you know the reason why I want in game XMB is to organize Friday Night Fights better as well as gaming get togethers with your friends, Hmmm?