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My Response to Boycotting Used Games
The Johnggernaut | 4:00 AM on 10.29.2007 15 comments


Gameboi wrote an article on comments by Free Radical's David Braben about how the purchasing of used games hurts the industry as a whole.

My response:

Bullshit.

Has downloaded music hurt the music industry? Well, some would say yes, but it hasn't hurt it enough to shut it down or prevent crappy music from coming out in droves...

You want to know what's hurting the industry? 99% of games licensed after movies. Batman Begins? Catwoman? Fantastic Four? Please. I think that developers and publishers must take more responsibility for the products they produce. If every game had the quality of games such as the Half-Life series or Psychonauts, then I could understand why it is hurting an industry worthy of attention here.

The way I see it, gamers have always been buying second hand games. just not from a store. I had plenty of friends in the NES and SNES days that would trade games and/or sell each other games for less.

What is the real problem? Low quality games. They are lucky to be sold at all and to be perfectly honest, being able to trade in games is part of the reason questionable games are purchased at all! If you have a way to back out, through trading back in, albeit for less than half the paid price, some consumers are willing to take the risk. If this option did not exist, people would simply rent games.

Also, right now, you can purchase a used game from Gamestop and return it within 7 days for an exchange and again turn that game back in for another exchange, no questions asked. I have friends that do this on the regular until they hit a game they want ot keep.

Does anyone else feel that the purchasing of used games is not the bane of the industry it's being made out to be? Do you purchase new games over used if you know it's worth it?



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soul3150's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/29/2007 05:55
soul3150
It's not.

It's the bullshit said by a guy who simply thinks that if people aren't buying the game fresh that it automatically equates to losing cash.

This is crap.

To go back to the music industry as an example, of all the music I have downloaded, the makers never lost a cent. Why? Cause I was too fucking poor to buy their stuff anyway. They lost NO money because there was never going to be a sale. They said the same about taping records and that was a whole big load too.

The only albums I have bought have been purchased because I liked the stuff I downloaded and felt honour-bound to give those guys some recompense for the fun their art had given me.

The exact same is true for games. The second hand trade allows games like Psychonauts to spread well after the regular retail has stopped, and, like an underground musician, the people who are exposed to it will pay attention when a game is made by the same team/person/etc. Games like Psychonauts, Beyond Good and Evil et al didn't fail because of any kind of second hand trade, but their names will live forever because of it.

Fuck him, share games, spread art.
HawtPawkitHero's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/29/2007 05:57
HawtPawkitHero
Finally someone with common sense.
The Johnggernaut's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/29/2007 06:09
The Johnggernaut
Fuckin' A!
JACK of No Trades's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/29/2007 06:49
JACK of No Trades
True True!
bhive01's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/29/2007 07:19
bhive01
I usually purchase my games new. I've only purchased used games for dead systems, since you can't get them in the regular store anymore. Mostly, I prefer to stay out of the GS/EB stores cause I just can't understand the we buy your game for 15$ and sell it for 5$ less than a new copy crap. So, I do my best to not support them at all.
soul3150's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/29/2007 07:27
soul3150
If any action should be taken it should be to take EB GS out of the equation.

Go back to gamer on gamer trade, honest barter, no filthy agentry in the middle.

A co-op of games, honest value exchange, fuck their markup.
The Johnggernaut's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/29/2007 07:42
The Johnggernaut
I agree completely. But the terrible truth to this is that people will continue to support this system by using it and it will never go away. Although... if there were people waiting on the sidewalk outside the E B Games who offered to pay maybe $5 more than EB offered for any games they wanted, one could 'fight the man.'
Brandon Undead's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/29/2007 07:51
Brandon Undead
If so many games didn't suck so bad, people wouldn't trade them in so religiously. That being said, game trading at retail outlets is a rip-off, and you're a sucker if you're doing it.
Artadius's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/29/2007 08:16
Artadius
It's only a rip off if you're SELLING the games to the retailer... not if you're buying (and making sure the packaging/disc is in quality shape before you walk out the door).
Brandon Undead's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/29/2007 09:15
Brandon Undead
A $5 discount on a used game is a rip in my eyes.
Variable Gear's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/29/2007 10:01
Variable Gear
If TimeSplitters: Future Perfect didn't suck so bad, I would have bought it new.
thebigghurt's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/29/2007 11:08
thebigghurt
if it werent for used games my money would not be spent on new games. maybe the dumbshits who started these posts would realize that most people buy used games so they can have more money for new games they need. And if they think renting games is bad maybe they should ask the movie industry how it survives rentals cuz I dont see or here them bitchin. And one more thing if games continue this 6-10 hour trend(conan,heavenly sword,)$60 price people will just stop buying games new or used and rent them. I for one wont spend $60+ on a game that I can beat in one night with no replay value.
vexed alex's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/29/2007 11:09
vexed alex
I'm poor. There are a lot of things I have to worry about. Buying a new game at $60 is not a spur of the moment purchase. I have to think about it, and if I can get that same game for $50, I'm happy. That's how much game used to cost. I still remember, publishers.

However, I hardly buy a used game because when I know something good is coming out, I pre-order or buy it day one. Other games that I don't know much about, I buy used. If it's shit, I return it and go for another. It is the fact that there are so many shitty games out there. Like, what the fuck is Ford Racing or that new ass looking Shrek game?
itemforty's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/29/2007 11:28
itemforty
I have a terrible friend (aka 'a fuck') who habitually buys games, and then trades in those games for other games. I am always telling him, "hey, you fuck, stop doing that" but he just rolls over on his fins and blows more water out of his blow hole (read: literally).
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