I would LOVE to shit and chat about Bond for ages (I'm a mega fan, and can see you are as well :D), I just want to say "good blog".
And Connery is my clear cut favorite.
And I hate Roger Moore, because he beats women. Connery grabs them for seducing purposes, Roger Moore punches them. What a dickhole.
And Connery is my clear cut favorite.
And I hate Roger Moore, because he beats women. Connery grabs them for seducing purposes, Roger Moore punches them. What a dickhole.
@Magnalon;
Well, Connery is Bond, no doubt of that. He perfectly captures that fine line of being sort of likable and silly, and being a stone-cold killer. I hate Roger Moore, moreso for the punchable face than his penchant for knocking around women. Bond should be smug, yes, but not that smug. George Lazenby feels closest to the Bond from the books for me despite only being in one film, though that's probably because On Her Majesty's Secret Service is the most direct adaption from book-to-film of any of the Bond flicks.
Well, Connery is Bond, no doubt of that. He perfectly captures that fine line of being sort of likable and silly, and being a stone-cold killer. I hate Roger Moore, moreso for the punchable face than his penchant for knocking around women. Bond should be smug, yes, but not that smug. George Lazenby feels closest to the Bond from the books for me despite only being in one film, though that's probably because On Her Majesty's Secret Service is the most direct adaption from book-to-film of any of the Bond flicks.
I've always had a thing for the Timothy Dalton flims, I do hope that they follow at least some of the ideas that you've mentioned above.
@Suitcoat
I agree 100% in regards to Lazenby/On Her Majesty's Secret Service. People knock George for being a model-actor, but I loved that film more than any of Moore or Dalton's movies.
I agree 100% in regards to Lazenby/On Her Majesty's Secret Service. People knock George for being a model-actor, but I loved that film more than any of Moore or Dalton's movies.
Excellent blog!! I love all your suggestions!
I read most of the James Bond books when I was a kid (and I too tend to prefer Connery for some reason). Fun gadgets are a must in a James Bond game... Fleming also wrote Chitty Chitty Bang Bang - the man had a thing for weird and wondrous gadgets, I'm sure he would have loved new ones for a video game!
I read most of the James Bond books when I was a kid (and I too tend to prefer Connery for some reason). Fun gadgets are a must in a James Bond game... Fleming also wrote Chitty Chitty Bang Bang - the man had a thing for weird and wondrous gadgets, I'm sure he would have loved new ones for a video game!
I too am down for an in depth Bond discussion and have had something similar brewing in my head for some time now. The problem I see is that the Bond character as portrayed in the good films (i.e everything up to and including GoldenEye) has no role in the modern world. The recent films have been more James Bourne-d than James Bond. Keep it during the Cold War era.
@Isay Isay;
I think that you could get around some of the issues of putting Bond in a modern world by making the game deliberately timeless. Mix 60's era architecture and presentation with modern equipment and weaponry. Bend the design of the world to meet the needs of telling the story. Since Bond subscribes to comic book rules in terms of continuity and time passage (despite nearly forty years of service, Bond remains forever in his late thirties), you could sort of shrug it off and say, "yeah, he did all that, and yeah the guy in Casino Royale is the same guy that was in A View To A Kill. What of it?"
But Bond discussion! Let's kick these doors down.
@Magnalon;
There's about half of a good film if you put Dalton's catalog together in a blender. License to Kill is sort of interesting in that it people forget that it was the first stab at making Bond "gritty", waaay before Danial Craig came near the part.
I liked Pierce Brosnen, too. I thought he was a decent Bond, but got screwed over by being in terrible films. Goldeneye is great and stands with the best in the franchise, of course, and Renard from The World Is Not Enough was a pretty cool villain played by a great actor (and utterly wasted), but everything else about his run was pretty boring and forgettable. I mean, I literally cannot remember anything about Tomorrow Never Dies besides that giant drill/submarine thing. Wait, no. I remember that the bad guy was basically Rupert Murdoch. Yeah, TND sucked.
I think that you could get around some of the issues of putting Bond in a modern world by making the game deliberately timeless. Mix 60's era architecture and presentation with modern equipment and weaponry. Bend the design of the world to meet the needs of telling the story. Since Bond subscribes to comic book rules in terms of continuity and time passage (despite nearly forty years of service, Bond remains forever in his late thirties), you could sort of shrug it off and say, "yeah, he did all that, and yeah the guy in Casino Royale is the same guy that was in A View To A Kill. What of it?"
But Bond discussion! Let's kick these doors down.
@Magnalon;
There's about half of a good film if you put Dalton's catalog together in a blender. License to Kill is sort of interesting in that it people forget that it was the first stab at making Bond "gritty", waaay before Danial Craig came near the part.
I liked Pierce Brosnen, too. I thought he was a decent Bond, but got screwed over by being in terrible films. Goldeneye is great and stands with the best in the franchise, of course, and Renard from The World Is Not Enough was a pretty cool villain played by a great actor (and utterly wasted), but everything else about his run was pretty boring and forgettable. I mean, I literally cannot remember anything about Tomorrow Never Dies besides that giant drill/submarine thing. Wait, no. I remember that the bad guy was basically Rupert Murdoch. Yeah, TND sucked.
Brilliant, brilliant post. I wish I had more constructive things to say but I will say this:
I nominate Eliza Dushku for the part of Bond girl. Both on the screen and behind the mic. She did it for WET, she'll do it for Bond.
Think about it.
I nominate Eliza Dushku for the part of Bond girl. Both on the screen and behind the mic. She did it for WET, she'll do it for Bond.
Think about it.
Bond games definitely need more gadgets! And not only more gadgets, but more freedom with which to use them. In most Bond games (or any adventure game, for that matter), it's very obvious which gadgets you're supposed to use, and when. Give us the chance to creatively solve missions with more puzzles.
Also, yes, yes, and yes to the being able to gain an advantage through dialogue and manipulation.
Also, SUITCOAT!
Also, yes, yes, and yes to the being able to gain an advantage through dialogue and manipulation.
Also, SUITCOAT!
@Suitcoat
I just figured the "James Bond" was just another rank in the military (Dread Pirate Robert style) and Dalton gets bonus points for his role in Hot Fuzz
I just figured the "James Bond" was just another rank in the military (Dread Pirate Robert style) and Dalton gets bonus points for his role in Hot Fuzz
@ Rogue Trooper
shame dalton was a little too weedy, but "license to kill" is probably my favorite bond movie.
i really hope they make more good bond games. while i really enjoyed "goldeneye" and "everything or nothing" i've never really felt like they captured bond right. too much action, not enough cool. i want to walk calmly into the super-villain's HQ knowing full well my disguise isn't fooling anyone, then take out all the guards and escape with the microfilm, not just run in blasting every time.
unfortunately, the bond movies are moving more toward being typical action movies, so i suppose any new bond games will only follow that trend.
shame dalton was a little too weedy, but "license to kill" is probably my favorite bond movie.
i really hope they make more good bond games. while i really enjoyed "goldeneye" and "everything or nothing" i've never really felt like they captured bond right. too much action, not enough cool. i want to walk calmly into the super-villain's HQ knowing full well my disguise isn't fooling anyone, then take out all the guards and escape with the microfilm, not just run in blasting every time.
unfortunately, the bond movies are moving more toward being typical action movies, so i suppose any new bond games will only follow that trend.
@Isay Isay;
That's actually a really hilarious idea. If only for the mental picture of them bringing the George Lazenby Bond into the head office after his first mission, and telling him that it "just wasn't working out", and that his desk was expected to be cleaned out by the end of the day.
Also, yes, any man who takes architecture through the chin is to be commended on some level.
That's actually a really hilarious idea. If only for the mental picture of them bringing the George Lazenby Bond into the head office after his first mission, and telling him that it "just wasn't working out", and that his desk was expected to be cleaned out by the end of the day.
Also, yes, any man who takes architecture through the chin is to be commended on some level.
You forgot #7: Don't let Bobby Kotick get anywhere within 5 miles of it.
@DanGale
Someone else who likes Brosnan? /Internet High5
@DanGale
Someone else who likes Brosnan? /Internet High5
I think one thing that made me think less of the Roger Moore Bond films was they were usually the 'ultra silly' Bond. Like Space Battle, killing a guy by inflating him like a Navy Raft and such and such.
I agree with you on Casino Royale, a good reboot but the ideal Bond films have always been a little less believable than that but not so unbelievable that we have to say "INVISIBLE CAR?! ROBOT SHOCK SUIT?! INVISIBLE CAR?! DREAM MACHINE?! INVISIBLE FREAKING CAR?!"
Just settling on a death-ray, capsule eating orbiter, and hidden volcano base is the way to go.
And let's not forget Niel Connery! Oh wait maybe we should.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_Connery
I agree with you on Casino Royale, a good reboot but the ideal Bond films have always been a little less believable than that but not so unbelievable that we have to say "INVISIBLE CAR?! ROBOT SHOCK SUIT?! INVISIBLE CAR?! DREAM MACHINE?! INVISIBLE FREAKING CAR?!"
Just settling on a death-ray, capsule eating orbiter, and hidden volcano base is the way to go.
And let's not forget Niel Connery! Oh wait maybe we should.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_Connery
Let us not forget the lack of Q (RIP) in the last few movies. Yeah, the gadgets are fun, but the interaction between Bond and Q were downright hilarious at times.
Oh and puns, delicious delicious puns
Oh and puns, delicious delicious puns
@Isay ISay;
Yes on both accounts. I'd be down for John Cleese coming back to reprise his role as Q/R. As for the puns, hell, you should fail the mission if you don't activate them after defeating a boss.
@Yehat;
Right. I wouldn't want to see a game filled with the more absurd elements that showed up in the Bond films (particularly in the Moore era), but I wouldn't mind nods to them (the return of the Moonraker laser, for example).
@ Kraid;

Yes on both accounts. I'd be down for John Cleese coming back to reprise his role as Q/R. As for the puns, hell, you should fail the mission if you don't activate them after defeating a boss.
@Yehat;
Right. I wouldn't want to see a game filled with the more absurd elements that showed up in the Bond films (particularly in the Moore era), but I wouldn't mind nods to them (the return of the Moonraker laser, for example).
@ Kraid;

"And of course, sitting at the top of all of it, should be the faceless Blofeld and his damn white cat."
This. A million times this.
Of course, I don't expect the game to be any good, but who knows.
This. A million times this.
Of course, I don't expect the game to be any good, but who knows.
I feel bad, I had to look up what movies Jaws was in, of all people. Bond wouldn't be happy with me.
i agree with this so much its not even funny.
also
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also
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6CoNUE5Zho[/ur]
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6CoNUE5Zho
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6CoNUE5Zho
I've always maintained that Everything or Nothing is the best Bond game, hands down. It just nailed everything perfectly. For some reason, EA ditched that and went with Rogue Agent for their next title. And we all saw how that turned out...
@Phoenix Gamma;
Actually, between EON and Rogue Agent, EA released an adaption of From Russia With Love. It was pretty cool, and built on the EON engine. It even featured Sean Connery reprising his role as Bond, which was pretty awesome unto itself. Unfortunately, it was a bit too easy, had some technical issues, and the story was kind of hacked up (SPECTRE became 'Octopus' due to ownership rights issues). Also, Connery's graveled, old-man voice didn't quite match up with his youthful game model.
Still, for all of it's faults, the game made up with it with an amazing last mission that took place in a SPECTRE SECRET BASE IN A FRICKIN' LIVE VOLCANO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNJ_HHXRxHk
Actually, between EON and Rogue Agent, EA released an adaption of From Russia With Love. It was pretty cool, and built on the EON engine. It even featured Sean Connery reprising his role as Bond, which was pretty awesome unto itself. Unfortunately, it was a bit too easy, had some technical issues, and the story was kind of hacked up (SPECTRE became 'Octopus' due to ownership rights issues). Also, Connery's graveled, old-man voice didn't quite match up with his youthful game model.
Still, for all of it's faults, the game made up with it with an amazing last mission that took place in a SPECTRE SECRET BASE IN A FRICKIN' LIVE VOLCANO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNJ_HHXRxHk

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