I really laughed hard at this, although it makes me sad how all this violent videogame issue is perceived nowadays by people in office. Their final point about football was great and really hit the nail on the head.

And WHY is this show NOT in Europe !? :-D

And Jack is a fucking fish murderer as far as I can tell lol

Great video, I've enjoyed Penn & Teller's Bullshit for quite some time and was really interested when I heard they were doing one on Video Game Violence. I also agree the final point about football hit the nail on the head, and that last bit with the kid put a lump in my throat, not gonna lie.

Brilliant. Captures what gamers have been trying to say to the likes of Jack and Hilary for years I think. Normal people can tell the difference between reality and a game. And games don't induce violent behavior and transform us into killing machines, Harrisson's experience (especially the final scene) proves that. Hopefully some people will be convinced after seeing this.

The ending really wrapped things up spectacularly. Great episode, and thanks for uploading! :D

Thanks for sharing suff, this was a really great ep.

On this episode Penn says "Video games are not an isolating experience." Play Final Fantasy or Suikoden, retreat away from society. Grinding levels and exploring fantasy worlds isn't exactly a social thing. Go to a game store, even gamestop, and talk about games. You'll try to one up you're knowledge of games against anyone in there. I've seen it happen in a lot of places, and it's always the most hilariously geeky thing. Same with comic books and movies, get two dudes who want to be the very best like no one was before and they'll go at it. I've seen it online here. You folks calls it a flame war, I calls it a kaiser blade. It's all the same really.

Play old school games, not "retro" games, and not hang out on forums or chatrooms for fear of seeming dorky, even though you've a stack of comic books and several dvds and VHS films that start with "star." Gaming has changed so much in the last few years, it isn't what it used to be. Late nights alone are now filled with competitions online. I don't know how I feel about that. And even then, whenever I mention games I'm playing people look at me like I'm an asshole for playing Shin Megami Tensei instead of something they've heard of. Not the least bit awkward feeling at all. You don't make friends playing a random Nintendo game that isn't on a "virtual console," but on your computer. Especially niche strategy games, translated into english games from Japan, or just strange and unusual games like Mister Mosquito. How that game ever got made, I'll never know.

Any sort of violence or yelling with crying breakdown can't be good. What if this kid suddenly starts listening to KMFDM and Rammstein, two bands two kids that a youth minister once said to a group of kids "changed the world." My brother was going to be in a church play so I showed up to watch him rehearse. I'm not a church going type. There was a long talk about school shootings. How and why they got on that subject before a play about Jesus I'll never know, but that was what the discussion was about. I sat quietly, thinking "Maybe it's not a good idea to tell kids that two guys who killed people changed the world." If you're watching their videos and reading their journal entires, which like everything else are just right over here, that's probably not a good thing, is it? To be interested in the macabre and darker side of things. Like knowing which mass murderer had two pints of ice cream for his last meal or a quick google search to find pictures of Chris Farley lying dead or any other murder photographs.

Yet here we are once again talking about video game violence. A useless and utterly pointless topic to someone who wants to play games full of samurai warriors and games where Ninja's fight helicopters. It comes up so often that I'm sick of it. I don't want to hear it. The issues facing video games should be as follows:

*Shitty games being released at full price. Licensed games being the worst. I know I sure love Ducktales, but some characters like Batman who should be pretty easy not to mess up are constantly done poorly.
*Japanese games not getting released here, like Earth Defense Force 1 & 2. It really makes me mad to see something that actually looks amazing not make it here.
*Blogs and their nonsense. You know, stealing content and the people who comment on the most insanely juvenile and utterly pointless writings that take little thought or originality. The sort of jokey "ha ha, we're a news site but its mostly opinions." Followed by a poor sexual joke of some kind. They always do that.
*And tits.

I think it's bullshit that they only briefly mentioned that other games exist, playing Wii Tennis in one brief segment. It's as if shooting was all you could do in a game. Conan's latest game was particularly violent and had tits. Big tits at that. Much like God of War, a more popular game that more people have played. It doesn't seem to attract attention for some reason, it's as if fantastical violence was completely acceptable but shooting people? That's bullshit. I'm sure a future episode would talk about a certain Warcraft game everyone seems to play.

One last thing

Everyone has to play a few games: Super Columbine Massacre RPG and JFK reloaded. A quick google search should find either. Manhunt you'll have to buy or look around online for. Postal 2 is available with an expansion and bug fixes cheaply.

I think I got a little concerned at this episode.

That is the most foul mouthed educational show ever.

@Cuba Gooding JR: Guns are terrifying in real life. The noise, the force of the recoil... in fact, it looked like the recoil made the gun hit him in the cheek. He did look like his cheek was feeling wrong at the very least after he shot the gun.

@Randombullseye: I think the main reason they focused on violent videogames is because it was the focus of this episode. They aren't denying that nonviolent videogames exist, it's just that they weren't relevant. And they focused on the more realistic shooters because that's what everyone is focusing on. The episode isn't meant to be a defense of videogames as a whole, just as a counterpoint to the violent games are harmful to children argument that seems to pop up constantly.

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Thanks for the link !

Thanks Suff.