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Loving Dr. Chakwas and The Reluctance of Creating Age Difference Relationships
Stevil | 1:04 PM on 02.08.2010 20 comments




Sometimes it hurts to be a bit blunt, but I find the whole ‘Tali/Liara’ obsession in Mass Effect fans a tad unnerving. Sure, I ended up in a relationship with Tali in the sequel, but I found it to be an honest character progression rather than anything to do with the exoticism of alien beings. With the humans like Miranda and Jack, I felt very little in the way for their romantic intentions. Miranda was someone who didn’t thaw out after all was said and done, while Jack reminded me of too many wild girls from high school who put out for anybody, then eventually dumped their problems on me.

But as Shepard did the wild thing with his old friend, I couldn’t help but think my heart lied with someone else.

There’s a great scene in Mass Effect 2 between Shepard and his good friend Dr. Chakwas, where they get totally wasted; reminiscing about old times and her real reasons for joining Cerberus, despite her loyalty to the Alliance. It mostly serves to expand on the enigmatic doctor and how jaded her romanticism of space-faring life has become. If she’s going to die on this suicide mission, it’s going to be because she followed a great hero like Shepard. Now that might sound a bit crazy, but since he’s already saved humanity once, she’s making a safe bet. Then it kind of hits me that the reasons she gives are not that much different from Tali’s admiration of the Commander.



Well, I guess one thing is apparently obvious to you now...

I think Dr. Chakwas is a total babe.

She’s like the Helen Mirren of space. Only she’s even more posh and she wasn’t in a film where Malcolm McDowell did some lewd acts with his arm and someone’s bum (see: Caligula). Despite being in only a handful of scenes in each game, I guess she’s made a real impact on me; so much so, that I actually noticed her new hairdo in Mass Effect 2 straight away.

See?!

That means I care about women's things!



Anyway, Carolyn Seymour does a great job of filling out Dr. Chakwas’ past with daydreaming sighs and cynical inflections. The good doctor comes across as woman whose life of adventure has gone by too quickly and now she melancholically looks back at the naive, almost oblivious, girl she once was with a fire reignited by Shepard’s heroics. I’ve always found the delivery note perfect in both games and it’s a shame that once you’ve had a few scenes with her, she doesn’t really do much for the rest of the game.

In the original Mass Effect, I found Ashley Williams and Dr. Chakwas more interesting than Tali and Liara. Probably because they both appealed to my attraction for ‘the hard to get’ type and ‘the older woman’ (yeah, I know...I’m a pervert...big whoop). Actually to be fair, I also found Tali interesting, but for slow burning reasons that were expanded on in the sequel.

I never cared for Liara, with all that swooning and the way the game made you take advantage of the ‘weaker girl’. It didn’t matter if she was an alien or not; she was just plain easy, safe and bit boring. She appealed to the geeks. I like that BioWare turned her into a cold manipulative character for Mass Effect 2 though, since it shook that group of gamers out of their over-protective complacency. Still, despite the short screen time, Dr. Chakwas (anagram for ‘hacksaw’ apparently, fact fans) was more memorable than the others. After that boozing and puppy dog eyes scene in the sequel, I felt somewhat frustrated when all BioWare allowed me to do with her was to just repeat old conversations until The Suicide Mission was activated.



Now, I’m not really going to run to the top of a car park with a megaphone, screaming injustice over a fictional character and accuse BioWare of being ageist, but if it’s pretty obvious that the character really likes Shepard – a protagonist who is mostly an extension of your personal choices – then why aren’t they allowed to ‘get it on’, so to speak?

Then I came to a realisation that you don’t really see age difference relationships in games.

So, the question remains - Why not?

Sexual relationships with exotic creatures (human or alien) are fine apparently, but I can’t remember a game where there’s a ten or twenty year old age gap relationship which involves the player. You know, ones where you're not an immortal character or an older man with a younger woman.



Now it’s easy to say, ‘oh yeah, what about Liara from Mass Effect? She’s like four hundred years old’ and to that I would say, ‘she’s made to look seventeen or nineteen and she’s pretty immature and inexperienced when it comes her personality.’ Then I’d probably show a graph comparing human and dog years, talking about scales or something...and that would be pretty sad for everyone involved.

Either way, you only have to look at comments made by people on Gametrailers and Gamespot to theorise why there may be a subconscious reluctance on a developer’s part to engage in these kind of subjects (ones that aren’t even taboo to say the least).

If it’s completely common in real life, then why isn’t it apparent in videogames?

I don’t really have an answer for that. Personally, I believe it has something to do with disinterested younger gamers making up the majority of the market share and most videogames’ concerns with empowering a male audience; tasking them with saving weaker female characters and so forth.

Anyway, I would go off to ponder the answer in more depth, but instead I’m just going to stalk Dr. Chakwas on the SSV Normandy for a few hours, while hypocritically calling Liara-philes ‘a bunch of weirdos’.



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Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 13:38
Elsa
LOL! You just have to play games where you can customize your character! My gal in Dragon Age: Origins was probably close to my age and had grey hair... actually very similar in appearance to your Doctor (I even had a similar haircut but with full bangs). I romanced Alistair, Leliana and Zev... who were all MUCH younger looking than myself. :)

Interesting thoughts though, and you're right that often an older and more interesting character is considered off limits for romantic options in games (Wynne in Dragon Age Origns was MUCH more interesting than Leliana).
Sean Carey's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 13:47
Sean Carey
Chakwas was a really interesting character, and romance or no, I would have loved to see them expand the dialogue opportunities between her and Shepard. Getting drunk with her was one of the coolest little moments in the game.

Nice post!
NateT's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 14:02
NateT
I felt she was one of the more intresting characters that was not given enough dialog, but romance? Not on in my playbook.
Kraid's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 14:02
Kraid
Excellent read!

I never really cared that much for Chakwas especially in the first one. She sounded like a Dr.Pulaski more than anything else to me.

But I really enjoyed this little bit in Mass Effect 2. It was good to see a come about on the relationship between Shepard and her.

One thing I did noticed however (Playing from a female shepard perspective) Is that when she/he says:" I'll get the glasses" my Shepard smiled which I thought brought so much more genuinity to the conversation. Like two old friends meeting after 15 years.

I largely prefered Kelly Chambers than any other female cast.
JamnOnTheOne's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 14:29
JamnOnTheOne
You could say that shepard had the reach, but she lack the flexibility>?
Occams electric toothbrush's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 14:58
Occams electric toothbrush
As someone who appreciates the beauty of Helen Mirren and older women in general:

/high-to-the-mutha-fucking-five
Andrew Kauz's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 15:19
Andrew Kauz
Pretty much just agreeing with what has been said before, but I also really loved the moment with her, and while I didn't really see any romantic connection going on, I was happy with that. A perfect friendship moment--and we don't get enough of that, honestly. With this big push for realistic romance in games, I have to wonder: what about realistic friendship? This scene nailed it for me in a way that other games never have.
NateT's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 15:58
NateT
*Partial Spoiler*

@Kraid Oh come on man the kinky Yeoman? It was her dancing right? Or was it her "feeding your fish?" ;P
Kraid's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 16:02
Kraid
@NateT: Yo Dem Space Fishes needs feedan!! XD....Also, I didn't got the dance at the end because *F'ING SPOILERS* she got Collectored. But yeah I thought she was really interesting and peppy.
Havoc Fang's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 16:04
Havoc Fang
Pff. I romanced Jack, because she was surprisingly emotional.

...Wish I could have got into some three-way-relationship (Sexual or not) with Gabby and Ken in the Engineering deck. They stand to be my favourite new side-characters.
Perfidious Sinn's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 16:32
Perfidious Sinn
Agreed, with everything. With Liara being an uninteresting love interest because of how easy it was to hook up with her, and especially agreed about Chakwas being pure sex on legs.

I think it's the accent. English (?) accents always get me.
beverlynoelle's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 21:37
beverlynoelle
Agreed and well said. They did the same thing in DA: O like Elsa said...god forbid you have a romance with the older party members...!
RIMoonlight's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2010 23:01
RIMoonlight
I think it's a bit of a shame, really. I suppose there's a bit of a stigma surrounding getting with older characters in RPGs, I'd actually imagine even more than the presence of homosexual characters in these games. Especially since BioWare opened up so many romance trees (with it going down to Garrus and Thane, even), I found it a little disappointing that Chakwas wasn't really an option. One of the most memorable scenes in the game, I think, was drinking with her after you got the Serrice Ice Brandy.

However, I do not apologize for preferring Tali over all the other crew members, not because of any 'exoticism' attached to the concept of her and Liara (though for some reason I didn't really like Liara, and welcomed her change to the person she was in ME2 quite a bit) attached with them being an alien; but rather her personality and that adorable 'girl-in-a-bubble' kind of shyness and awkwardness... and now I sound like some creepy nerd. Ah well.

Great article, regardless.
Stevil's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2010 06:44
Stevil
Thanks for all the great comments, everyone! Too many to reply to this time but I'll sum it up:

I actually don't mind that there's no romance going on with Chakwas; the whole article is merely personal preference after all. I love it that Shepard gets to build these mutal friendships throughout the series too; it makes the character more realistic and it gives a face to the people he's fighting for.

As for the Tali/Liara thing, the whole blog was inspired by some of the more obsessive comments on Gamespot forums and Anthony Burch saying, as a joke, how Liara's change was 'scary' to him in a recent article; so I wouldn't take it personally. Tali is a well written character in general and her relationship with Shepard works both ways - as a friend or as a lover, it's just a shame that gets overlooked for the whole 'show us her face' nonsense going on.

@Elsa: I'm too narcissistical when it comes to character creation. Everyone must look like a handsome, badass version of me! It's like OCD or something!

@Kraid - Yeah, Chakwas does have that Dr. Pulaski thing going on and for a useless bit of trivia, her voice actress has been on Star Trek a few times. Also, I forgot to mention Kelly, but that's because I never really gave her anything more than the odd 'office flirt'. Still, I made sure I left no one behind. I owed her that much at least.

@Occams: Give me some skin, bro!
akathatoneguy's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2010 13:22
akathatoneguy
I was disappointed about the lack of a romantic option with her, although I see the point to having a rare friendship with no option for romance in such a game. It's just that none of the characters that were options in ME2 really distinguished themselves from the rest for me. Dr. Chakwas was one of the few characters that actually interested me. She is focused on her work without being a stereotypical "ruthless bitch", she's compassionate without being weak, etc. And though my Shepard was young, he has the kind of experience in life by now that just choosing the "hottest chick" seemed silly. I ultimately chose Tali just out of curiosity.

And @ Stevil- It's not nonsense! What's wrong with wanting to see Tali's face? That's just human nature, my friend. Cover something up, and everyone will want to see it. Well...most of the time, anyway.
coldalarm's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/09/2010 20:42
coldalarm
Some good points!
I wouldn't have minded it being an option, although it'd be one I'm less inclined to take. I think it says something about BioWare's current approach to romance options when half of the non-romancable squad mates are the ones you're interested in (Chakwas in this example, Wynne as the Dragon Age example and so forth, I've heard Joker banded about for FemSheps). I did feel Chakwas was a much better character in ME2, even though I didn't interact with her much in either game.
As for why I think it's not an option? Same reason so few games have Male/Male relationships. It's not as taboo, I agree, but it's not something you always come across. I'd say Dr C looks about 55ish with Shep being... is it 29? It's a fairly big jump I suppose, and for that reason the developers/writers may not even consider it as an option.
Robert's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/13/2010 23:56
Robert
Interesting. I'd imagine in real life that interracial dating is more common than dating someone with a different of 10 years in age. But how would I know?

Either way, Dr. Chakwas should have a look at you.
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