LOL! You just have to play games where you can customize your character! My gal in Dragon Age: Origins was probably close to my age and had grey hair... actually very similar in appearance to your Doctor (I even had a similar haircut but with full bangs). I romanced Alistair, Leliana and Zev... who were all MUCH younger looking than myself. :)
Interesting thoughts though, and you're right that often an older and more interesting character is considered off limits for romantic options in games (Wynne in Dragon Age Origns was MUCH more interesting than Leliana).
Interesting thoughts though, and you're right that often an older and more interesting character is considered off limits for romantic options in games (Wynne in Dragon Age Origns was MUCH more interesting than Leliana).
Chakwas was a really interesting character, and romance or no, I would have loved to see them expand the dialogue opportunities between her and Shepard. Getting drunk with her was one of the coolest little moments in the game.
Nice post!
Nice post!
I felt she was one of the more intresting characters that was not given enough dialog, but romance? Not on in my playbook.
Excellent read!
I never really cared that much for Chakwas especially in the first one. She sounded like a Dr.Pulaski more than anything else to me.
But I really enjoyed this little bit in Mass Effect 2. It was good to see a come about on the relationship between Shepard and her.
One thing I did noticed however (Playing from a female shepard perspective) Is that when she/he says:" I'll get the glasses" my Shepard smiled which I thought brought so much more genuinity to the conversation. Like two old friends meeting after 15 years.
I largely prefered Kelly Chambers than any other female cast.
I never really cared that much for Chakwas especially in the first one. She sounded like a Dr.Pulaski more than anything else to me.
But I really enjoyed this little bit in Mass Effect 2. It was good to see a come about on the relationship between Shepard and her.
One thing I did noticed however (Playing from a female shepard perspective) Is that when she/he says:" I'll get the glasses" my Shepard smiled which I thought brought so much more genuinity to the conversation. Like two old friends meeting after 15 years.
I largely prefered Kelly Chambers than any other female cast.
As someone who appreciates the beauty of Helen Mirren and older women in general:
/high-to-the-mutha-fucking-five
/high-to-the-mutha-fucking-five
Pretty much just agreeing with what has been said before, but I also really loved the moment with her, and while I didn't really see any romantic connection going on, I was happy with that. A perfect friendship moment--and we don't get enough of that, honestly. With this big push for realistic romance in games, I have to wonder: what about realistic friendship? This scene nailed it for me in a way that other games never have.
*Partial Spoiler*
@Kraid Oh come on man the kinky Yeoman? It was her dancing right? Or was it her "feeding your fish?" ;P
@Kraid Oh come on man the kinky Yeoman? It was her dancing right? Or was it her "feeding your fish?" ;P
@NateT: Yo Dem Space Fishes needs feedan!! XD....Also, I didn't got the dance at the end because *F'ING SPOILERS* she got Collectored. But yeah I thought she was really interesting and peppy.
Pff. I romanced Jack, because she was surprisingly emotional.
...Wish I could have got into some three-way-relationship (Sexual or not) with Gabby and Ken in the Engineering deck. They stand to be my favourite new side-characters.
...Wish I could have got into some three-way-relationship (Sexual or not) with Gabby and Ken in the Engineering deck. They stand to be my favourite new side-characters.
Agreed, with everything. With Liara being an uninteresting love interest because of how easy it was to hook up with her, and especially agreed about Chakwas being pure sex on legs.
I think it's the accent. English (?) accents always get me.
I think it's the accent. English (?) accents always get me.
Agreed and well said. They did the same thing in DA: O like Elsa said...god forbid you have a romance with the older party members...!
I think it's a bit of a shame, really. I suppose there's a bit of a stigma surrounding getting with older characters in RPGs, I'd actually imagine even more than the presence of homosexual characters in these games. Especially since BioWare opened up so many romance trees (with it going down to Garrus and Thane, even), I found it a little disappointing that Chakwas wasn't really an option. One of the most memorable scenes in the game, I think, was drinking with her after you got the Serrice Ice Brandy.
However, I do not apologize for preferring Tali over all the other crew members, not because of any 'exoticism' attached to the concept of her and Liara (though for some reason I didn't really like Liara, and welcomed her change to the person she was in ME2 quite a bit) attached with them being an alien; but rather her personality and that adorable 'girl-in-a-bubble' kind of shyness and awkwardness... and now I sound like some creepy nerd. Ah well.
Great article, regardless.
However, I do not apologize for preferring Tali over all the other crew members, not because of any 'exoticism' attached to the concept of her and Liara (though for some reason I didn't really like Liara, and welcomed her change to the person she was in ME2 quite a bit) attached with them being an alien; but rather her personality and that adorable 'girl-in-a-bubble' kind of shyness and awkwardness... and now I sound like some creepy nerd. Ah well.
Great article, regardless.
Thanks for all the great comments, everyone! Too many to reply to this time but I'll sum it up:
I actually don't mind that there's no romance going on with Chakwas; the whole article is merely personal preference after all. I love it that Shepard gets to build these mutal friendships throughout the series too; it makes the character more realistic and it gives a face to the people he's fighting for.
As for the Tali/Liara thing, the whole blog was inspired by some of the more obsessive comments on Gamespot forums and Anthony Burch saying, as a joke, how Liara's change was 'scary' to him in a recent article; so I wouldn't take it personally. Tali is a well written character in general and her relationship with Shepard works both ways - as a friend or as a lover, it's just a shame that gets overlooked for the whole 'show us her face' nonsense going on.
@Elsa: I'm too narcissistical when it comes to character creation. Everyone must look like a handsome, badass version of me! It's like OCD or something!
@Kraid - Yeah, Chakwas does have that Dr. Pulaski thing going on and for a useless bit of trivia, her voice actress has been on Star Trek a few times. Also, I forgot to mention Kelly, but that's because I never really gave her anything more than the odd 'office flirt'. Still, I made sure I left no one behind. I owed her that much at least.
@Occams: Give me some skin, bro!
I actually don't mind that there's no romance going on with Chakwas; the whole article is merely personal preference after all. I love it that Shepard gets to build these mutal friendships throughout the series too; it makes the character more realistic and it gives a face to the people he's fighting for.
As for the Tali/Liara thing, the whole blog was inspired by some of the more obsessive comments on Gamespot forums and Anthony Burch saying, as a joke, how Liara's change was 'scary' to him in a recent article; so I wouldn't take it personally. Tali is a well written character in general and her relationship with Shepard works both ways - as a friend or as a lover, it's just a shame that gets overlooked for the whole 'show us her face' nonsense going on.
@Elsa: I'm too narcissistical when it comes to character creation. Everyone must look like a handsome, badass version of me! It's like OCD or something!
@Kraid - Yeah, Chakwas does have that Dr. Pulaski thing going on and for a useless bit of trivia, her voice actress has been on Star Trek a few times. Also, I forgot to mention Kelly, but that's because I never really gave her anything more than the odd 'office flirt'. Still, I made sure I left no one behind. I owed her that much at least.
@Occams: Give me some skin, bro!
I was disappointed about the lack of a romantic option with her, although I see the point to having a rare friendship with no option for romance in such a game. It's just that none of the characters that were options in ME2 really distinguished themselves from the rest for me. Dr. Chakwas was one of the few characters that actually interested me. She is focused on her work without being a stereotypical "ruthless bitch", she's compassionate without being weak, etc. And though my Shepard was young, he has the kind of experience in life by now that just choosing the "hottest chick" seemed silly. I ultimately chose Tali just out of curiosity.
And @ Stevil- It's not nonsense! What's wrong with wanting to see Tali's face? That's just human nature, my friend. Cover something up, and everyone will want to see it. Well...most of the time, anyway.
And @ Stevil- It's not nonsense! What's wrong with wanting to see Tali's face? That's just human nature, my friend. Cover something up, and everyone will want to see it. Well...most of the time, anyway.
Some good points!
I wouldn't have minded it being an option, although it'd be one I'm less inclined to take. I think it says something about BioWare's current approach to romance options when half of the non-romancable squad mates are the ones you're interested in (Chakwas in this example, Wynne as the Dragon Age example and so forth, I've heard Joker banded about for FemSheps). I did feel Chakwas was a much better character in ME2, even though I didn't interact with her much in either game.
As for why I think it's not an option? Same reason so few games have Male/Male relationships. It's not as taboo, I agree, but it's not something you always come across. I'd say Dr C looks about 55ish with Shep being... is it 29? It's a fairly big jump I suppose, and for that reason the developers/writers may not even consider it as an option.
I wouldn't have minded it being an option, although it'd be one I'm less inclined to take. I think it says something about BioWare's current approach to romance options when half of the non-romancable squad mates are the ones you're interested in (Chakwas in this example, Wynne as the Dragon Age example and so forth, I've heard Joker banded about for FemSheps). I did feel Chakwas was a much better character in ME2, even though I didn't interact with her much in either game.
As for why I think it's not an option? Same reason so few games have Male/Male relationships. It's not as taboo, I agree, but it's not something you always come across. I'd say Dr C looks about 55ish with Shep being... is it 29? It's a fairly big jump I suppose, and for that reason the developers/writers may not even consider it as an option.

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