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Fighting a losing battle
Solivagant | 4:08 PM on 10.28.2008 19 comments


It amazes me that at a time when so many great games are being released there are still so many paying attention to Bethesda's new title.

It also amazes me that nobody recognizes their marketing ploy. They've been pulling every single trick in the book since those first exclusive magazine scans:

-The first thing they announced was Liam Neeson's voice acting. Completely relevant to the fans of the original!

-Then came the teaser trailer, a knock-off of Fallout 1's intro, which I actually liked, and confirmed Ron Perlman as the Narrator. Too bad it also heavily hinted at the decision to go first person and ignore the previous gameplay.

-After that, the exclusive magazine scans, revealing Lucas Simms, that awful reused model from Oblivion, the bald and completely different muties, the first person/third person perspectives and the idiotic as hell portable nuclear launcher.

-Then, lots of other magazine screenshots later, they started inviting "game journalists" to their company. No, not the fans, those fan sites were never contacted. That makes me sad, specially since Todd Howard has been answering in interviews that they pay attention to the fans and that the fans aren't really that evil, as if there were some kind of interplay between the fans and the devs (besides the official Beth forums).

-Then these journalists were showered with cakes, and bobble heads. And big events. And they flew the journalists over and paid all the expenses.

-Then the first gameplay videos. Showing the poor animation, the way VATS truly worked (like a GOD button in an FPS), and Todd's awful voice.

-Recently, there were/are all the release events at the game shops, and then there were that army of Brotherhood of Steel in real scale, the special edition of the game with the crappy pipboy, the dreaded bobble-head, etc.

What does all of this amount to? Bethesda have been buttering up game journalists and reviewers since before any gameplay footage went public. They've been pulling for that "GOTY" award since the beginning of the year, and people are all eating it up. I've only see one article complaining about the way they gift the gaming sites and shower them with crap.

Am I the only one that sees what they are doing here?

I'm fighting a losing battle. Blackcats just got Fallout 3 for PC, and the Xbox version has been there for two weeks. I already know how the game ends, a poor twist ending that I won't spoil for the sods that decided to plunk their dollars in this game.

Hard to believe there are people buying Fallout 3 when there's so many quality gamesbeing released, from Dead Space to Little Big Planet to Fable 2 to Red Alert 3 to Far Cry 2 to Witcher's Enhanced Edition and so many other great games that are barely worth a mention on this site because everyone's a console fanboy and the only retro they believe in is the 8bit kind of retro.

Cue the fanboys.



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viralhunter's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 17:10
viralhunter
I've only played a bit of the original, and I definitely know where you're coming from. For me, Fallout 3 lacks the character and charm of the original, things are just rather bland this time around. IDK, I might take a spin through it but it doesn't interest me that much ATM.
DaedHead8's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 17:31
DaedHead8
As someone who has actually played a bit of fallout 3 (and quite a bit of the originals) I can say that it is a fantastic game. I fail to see how Bethesda's marketing has made this a bad game?
Primo's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 17:34
Primo
Don't get me wrong, I still want to play Fallout 3, but it's pretty low on my priority list. I will be getting LBP, Resistance 2, and Dead Space before that. Oh, and Fifa 09.. I'm going to be really poor for a while.
Skribble's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 17:46
Skribble
So they marketed the game before any gameplay was released?

Welcome to the world of video games.
JamnOnTheOne's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 17:55
JamnOnTheOne
"No, not the fans, those fan sites were never contacted."

Fans of Fallout titles are like real nutty Star Wars fans...Crazed individuals. I wouldn't want those fans critiquing a game that's going down a completely different direction that the originals.
elpoopacabra's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 18:48
elpoopacabra
"as if there were some kind of interplay between the fans and the devs"

interplay pun intended? :p

i only recently played the original 2 fallouts (this summer, actually), and quickly became a rabid fan. i share many people's fear of the way the game has been taken, though i am also still willing to give their artistic license the benefit of the doubt. still.... i can't help but be excited for this game.

i shamelessly ordered the special edition, so by the end of this week i should be making sweet love to my pipboy (the bubble head can watch)
Skribble's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/28/2008 19:41
Skribble
Also, I don't see how the VATS system is unfair. You build up your accuracy and strength by leveling up and getting better weapons/equipment/etc. You won't always hit the target, but if you do you are treated to a nice gory animation.

Obviously you are not a fan of Fallout 3, but it is what it is, so instead of complaining about something you don't like, how about letting the people who do like it enjoy it. People have differing tastes, and personally, I think the game looks amazing.
robotbebop's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/29/2008 00:37
robotbebop
For the record, Bethesda had a pretty sweet booth at PAX for Fallout 3, if you could get into it. Because it was so stuffed with _fans_ and not journalists.

God forbid a video game company should invite real journalists to their events or offices - people who can actually write two words without spitting all over their keyboards, people with actual exposure media that the fans will actually read/view, be it IGN, 1UP, Shacknew, etc.

Silly people, silly developers and their beds of cash. If only they knew how stupid they were being.
hood_954's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/29/2008 01:26
hood_954
"Oh, and Fifa 09"
Facepalm.

what did you expect them to do. Completely develop the game and not tell anyone they were actually making a new fallout? Of course they pulled out all the stops on promoting the product. its been how long since the last one. that's just the way the industry works. countless publishers, developers and franchises have had this much hype and coverage. its not anything new. this is just the whole diablo fiasco all over again
frozenbabylon's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/29/2008 02:30
frozenbabylon
and so many other great games that are barely worth a mention on this site because everyone's a console fanboy and the only retro they believe in is the 8bit kind of retro.

Wait. So you come to this site to rant about how marketing works, then you turn around and bash the site and it's community in the last lines of your blog for being fanboys?

What the hell is this shit?
Solivagant's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/29/2008 04:02
Solivagant
@frozenbabylon

Its me bashing your megaman avatar, friend.
Alasdair Duncan's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/29/2008 04:34
Alasdair Duncan
I'm sorry, but is there an irony in baiting fanboys when you display the traits of one yourself?
nukka jdav's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/29/2008 10:19
nukka jdav
Yeah its a great game.


ARGUMENT OVER.
MechaMonkey's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/29/2008 12:01
MechaMonkey
Question: Have you played it? Or are you basing your entire opinion of a game on a couple teaser trailers and a marketing plan?

Play it (not just listen to someone else who's played it) and then try this again. Personally, I played it all last night alongside a friend who was a huge fan of the originals, and both he and I loved it.
Demtor's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/29/2008 13:52
Demtor
Haha, I enjoyed reading the post and the replies. Entertainment right here.
Solivagant's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/30/2008 18:16
Solivagant
2MechaMonkey
I haven't played it, I get more kicks out of pissing you lot off. The dialogue's better than the game, at least.
awkwardmongoose's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/30/2008 23:44
awkwardmongoose
I fucking hate you. I'm feeding the fire but you are truly an epic douche. I don't even think that because I happen to enjoy Fallout 3 (19 hours in) you could be dissing Yaris and it would still make you nothing more than a retarded, inbred troll.

Good day. I'm going back to enjoying the game.
Yuriy Tkachenko's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/23/2009 16:15
Yuriy Tkachenko
Fallout 3 definitely, definitely is missing the Fallout 1 ... ..all that that made Fallout what it is, but it stays a fact that Bathesda came out with a playable sequel to the original. No one else was able to do come out with a playable sequel, so respect there. Now, open-mided, ...Bathesda looks like they tried to stick to the origins, in my opinion they are much closer to the original rpg than the tactical BoS, ... in graphics too. The major miss in Bathesda's is that maybe they didn't watch Mad Max enough to make this work - just my perceptions. [Played through all pc commercial releases of the fallout games) - so yea, a little open-minded. They do fill the Fallout gap, ...& the mods can fill the rest :D
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