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Stuck in the Past: The PS3 and its Lack of Time Machine.
SneakerElph | 1:47 AM on 08.20.2009 10 comments


So the PS3 Slim was just recently announced with much fanfare. Two of the main reasons someone wouldn’t want to buy a PS3 have been remedied. Number one, the cost of the machine has gone down. This is important because the PS3 is only now reaching the price point that Microsoft and Nintendo have sat at for three or four years. Secondly, it’s slimmer. It’s not much smaller, but it is welcome, for sure.

Now let me tell you the reason I still won’t be buying a PS3: Backward compatibility. I’ve seen blog postings about how “who plays old games anymore?” and things like that. I play old games. They’re often better than the new ones. I know there’s a few great PS3 exclusives, and I’d love to take advantage of that. Those who bought launch 20GB and 60GB consoles were treated to full backwards compatibility, and the later 40GB model was also compatible, at least partially. So it was there, and Sony decided to take it out.

Comparing the big three consoles (as fanboys often do) shows us that the Wii has full GameCube compatibility. This is mainly because it’s just a higher clocked version, but the point still stands. It’s there. The Xbox 360 has a level of BC, and Microsoft hasn’t taken it out to reduce costs.

Let’s be frank here, the PS3 is arguably the most powerful console of this generation. The PS2 is the least powerful console of the previous generation, Dreamcast excluded. How is it that a less powerful system (Xbox 360) can emulate the most powerful system of the previous generation, but the latest version of the most powerful console can’t emulate in software its older brother’s vastly inferior hardware? Something here doesn’t fit.

The argument of “who plays old games anymore?” doesn’t fly. Obviously the people who are complaining about it do. There’s a gigantic library of PS2 games, both old and new, that newcomers to Sony’s brand would love to play. The Persona series is a great example of games that were produced in the PS3’s lifespan that many PS3 players won’t be able to play, because they bought new hardware instead of old hardware. They shouldn’t be punished like that, mostly because the Persona series rocks and nobody should be unable to play it.

Playing games on PS2 vs. the PS3 has certain disadvantages: Lower resolution and wired controllers. The maximum resolution offered on the PS2 was 480p. Not even all games supported it. On the PS3, games can be upscaled to 720p or 1080p. This doesn’t make the textures or anything look better, but definitely gets rid of a lot of the jaggies that a PS2 game being played on an HDTV is often plagued by.

The bottom line is, the PS3 used to have BC. The Wii and Xbox 360 have it, and in order to be competitive, Sony needs to step up on that level. We know the system is powerful enough to do it, so they need to do it. Right now, BC is the main reason I’m not getting a slim PS3. Now, when the choice between buying the new hardware comes down to whether or not it can play the old hardware’s games, what does that say about Sony’s current software lineup? It’s not substantially different enough from the backward compatible Xbox 360. Microsoft has this checkmark checked, and Sony doesn’t. Guess who gets my cash?



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Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2009 02:26
Dan CiTi
Well, upscaling doesn't usually look good because all it is really just stretching the image to much higher resolution than intended then putting some smoothing effect. Anyway, I'm pretty sure Sony is working on some kind of 360-like software compatibility system. There was some copyright article on Siliconera not too long ago.
nakedstud's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2009 02:46
nakedstud
how about you buy a used ps2 for 20 bucks and call it a day. i have a 40 gb ps3 hooked up to my lcd and an old fatty ps2 hooked up to an old tube tv because ps2 games look blurry as hell when they are played on lcd tv's. another reason i use a ps2 to play ps2 games is because ps2 games are often scratched and dirty. why would i risk playing them on a $400 system and fuck up the lens?
SneakerElph's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2009 02:51
SneakerElph
I'm not saying I'll never get a PS3. I'm saying at the current price point, it's not worth it to me unless it has PS2 compatibility.

@Nakedstud

Not everybody has multiple TVs, or even room for multiple consoles. Some TV's are really hard to get to the back of. The point is, the PS3 should play PS2 games, simply because it has the capability, and because the competition has it.

If the PS3 didn't offer DVD movie Playback then all of you would definitely have your panties in a twist. "But i have a library of DVDs! I still watch my old DVDs!"
Loogibot's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2009 06:14
Loogibot
Within a year of having released the Ps3, Sony realized they were not making as much money a they had predicted. The cost of production of PS3 units was far higher than the cost of sale, meaning they were losing money and profit. To counter this, Sony got rid of BC because the PS2 was still turning a profit. Basically, if you want to see BC on PS3's anytime soon, people would have to stop purchasing PS2's all together.

But lets not blame Sony for everything, lets look at the publishers making games for the PS2. PS2 games are the only ones from last gen still being sold and produced along side current gen. Nobody is making Gamecube and original Xbox games on a large and relevant scale. But developers and publishers like Activision and Atlus still support the PS2, especially due to its incredibly high popularity and its easy to make games for it.

Sony will implement the function to the PS3 in the future. It's inevitable and like you said, the competition has it. But quite frankly, its not that much of a big deal. Even without BC, its still a very powerful system with tons of great games available. Maybe at the higher price point it was, you could have defended you point with more ground. But its much less expensive, and not having compatibility with PS2 is more justified.
squirrelyg's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2009 08:12
squirrelyg
As brainderailment said fully BC PS3s aren't that hard to find. I just bought a 20 GIG brand new from a local K-mart. So with a little more effort on your part, and a little less complaining about a business made by sony, you could easily find a ps3 at your price point. Also from what I understand the BC on the 360 is somewhat of a , and most of the games suffer from framrate issues or are unplayable (If I'm wrong here I apologize, just what I've heard).

The bottom line is Sony has now made 2 price cuts, and if you still want to miss out on a library of amazing games instead of getting a used ps2 ( or even a new one for that matter the price isn't that much these days) then that's your decision.
PappaDukes's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2009 10:01
PappaDukes
I am playing KH II and GoW II everyday on my 80 gig PS3. Gotta love BC.
DaedHead8's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2009 10:53
DaedHead8
I'm playing Dirge of Cerebrus, Disgaea: Hour of Darkness, Devil May Cry and Metal Gear Solid 3 on my PS3 right now and I feel bad for all PS3 owners who don't have that ability. It was a good move for Sony to take out BC when they did, it helped them make some profit on the PS3 for once. But now that dev costs are down, it's a dick move not to put BC back in.
The Pat Man's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2009 11:11
The Pat Man
I'm pretty sure the reasoning behind that is so you can buy games on the inevitable PS2 store on PSN. If memory serves correct, there was an article within the couple of months or so mentioning Sony patenting new PS2 emulation software for the PS3. So what it comes down to is either two things.

1. They're going to be awesome and give us free BC in some upcoming PS3 update and just keeping hush hush about it so they'll get endless praise when it does happen.

2. They're going to use this new patented software to make a PS2 download store on PSN.

Option 1. would be amazing. But option 2. is most likely what's going to happen since there is more money in it for them. But just like with the PSPgo, there will be people who already own the games up in arms. Either way, you'll be able to play PS2 games on your PS3 eventually. There are too many people complaining about this for them not to ignore the issue. Word of mouth is perhaps the best form of advertisment after all.
Tha_Meat's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/20/2009 11:43
Tha_Meat
That you for your blog, buy a PS3 that doesn't have BC (the fattys), throw it up in the air as high as you can and stand directly underneath it!
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