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I am not a member of the The Escapist Forums. On a scale of one to retarded they fall somewhere between Paris Hilton and Donald Trump (wheras Destructoid is merely between Steve Jobs and Peter Molyneux), which is a bit lower than most gamer forums dip. That said, when they ran a poll of the best post-2000 kids' cartoons, I was disturbed when Invader Zim overwhelmingly topped it.
What's worse is that this is not a phenomenon unique to the Escapist. Oh, no, go onto DeviantArt, Myspace, and any given site that markets to the subcultures of generation Y, and you will find an overwhelming amount of support for that brave little cartoon, canceled after only two seasons. "They just didn't understand Invader Zim," complains the pudgy goth girl with the superfluous nose piercing, "it was too edgy for kids so they canceled it." Meanwhile, the gamer guy in the headphones that I take the bus with notes that, "Jhonen Vasquez was a really subversive artist, and the corporation"-he emphasizes 'corporation' to establish how much he hates Nickelodeon-"put him down for expressing himself." The "Edgy" crowd leans toward referencing the "Dark Harvest" episode, wherein Zim harvests organs from the children in his class, whereas the "art and expression" crowd tends to draw comparisons between Zim and Vasquez's indie comics work, most notably Johnny the Homicidal Maniac.
Let me get this out of the way, first. I love Invader Zim. I own all of the DvDs. I've got some Zim merchandise hanging around somewhere. I can give you quotes from basically all of the episodes. However, somewhere along the line my generation got it into their heads that Invader Zim was the end-all, be-all of cartoons, and set Jhonen Vasquez up to be some kind of martyr figure, and this is both ignorant and a complete and total fallacy. This is not up for discussion. And as someone who has spent his entire life studying animation, I take this very, very personally. First and foremost, it was canceled because it was needlessly expensive and time-consuming. Was this the corporation's (hiss) fault? Hardly. Jhonen Vasquez, as an artist mostly experienced in the two-dimensional, comic image, was not properly trained in rendering his characters in a 3-D environment. Now, though Invader Zim is a two-dimensional cartoon in the strictest sense, every cartoon needs to be able to properly render its character in three dimensions to facilitate smooth actions. Very basic smooth actions. Like, you know, running, or turning around. Vasquez didn't have the proper experience in this sort of thing, so a lot of the character animation process was basically him dictating back and forth between designers and animators, unable to do enough of the work himself. This, in turn, made the series completely unnecessarily difficult to produce, because they couldn't go directly from the concept art to the show; they had to turn Vasquez's concept art into workable, usable art, and THEN work that into the show. Basically, Nick either had to cut out the creator or sacrifice the show, and they chose the latter. Even now the animations look jerky and crude in comparison to a lot of the other works of the time.
Secondly, it was canceled because if you take an indie artist and put him in a mainstream studio and force him to do mainstream things, he becomes a combative asshole. I have it from a good source (in this case, a former head animator from the show, who also taught me quite a lot more of what I know about the industry) that Vasquez regularly butted heads with his studio "superiors" because they were exercising too much control over what was, in essence, his brainchild. Now, I know that this is moving Vasquez closer to martyr territory again, but that's just the problem. In the animation industry-in TV in general-you have to deal with the studio keeping your show appealing to all. That involves editing it. That involves changing it. If you go into a studio setting, you have to be cooperative and accept the changes. That didn't happen with Invader Zim. Instead, Vasquez told off the people who were filling his paycheck, which is moronic. You may idolize the guy for being "anti-authority," but if you had to hire some too-cool for school douchebag to work under your management, you'd probably fire him after the umpteenth, "no, you may be my boss but I'm not doing things your way," too. So please, people. Invader Zim was not the best cartoon ever. It was a decent cartoon with a troubled man heading it, that most of you have romanticized in retrospect because of its comparatively dark humor and quick cancellation. If you're looking for excellence in cartoons, here's what I'd much sooner turn you on to:
Samurai Jack, a stunning and utterly beautiful experiment in animation and its capacity to amaze, ran for four full seasons and an Emmy, and yet I never hear anyone mentioning it these days. This is a shame, because it was groundbreaking exactly where a show like Invader Zim was not.
Spongebob Squarepants, which is decidedly mainstream (hiss!) and still running today, is popular among children and adults for a very good reason. It's silly, it's entertaining, and it's honestly endearing. I would even go so far as to say that it's better than most of the cartoons that I grew up with in the 90s, such as Johnny Bravo or The Powerpuff Girls.
If you're going to complain about a cartoon canceled after two seasons, complain about Megas XLR, the stellar parody of the giant-robo genre. Though I wouldn't say that it has the lasting appeal of Spongebob or the artistic merit of Jack, it took everything we anime fans held dear and thrashed it a new one to a punk rock soundtrack. It made me grow hair on my chest with its fight scenes, and the subtle, referential humor (and big, bombastic humor) always kept me laughing. So please, people. Stop humming the "doom song" as you browse Hot Topic. In Biblical terms, all you're doing is worshipping a golden calf.
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Plus Megas was just getting an epic and consistent plot dammit. It definitely could've been adapted for a theatrical outing at some point.
Anyway, I love Invader Zim. I actually have a large painting of GIR made by my talented cousin hanging above my bed. I don't, however, idolize it. It was a great show, very freaking funny.
Also, I listened to all the commentaries from the DVDs, and it's obvious that the show was not what the creator wanted to do. If you compare the early episodes such as "Dark Harvest" (since you mentioned it) to later episodes in the series, he wanted the show to be much darker. I think he was excited at first at the fact that he was going to be making a show, but then later found out that kids television is not the place to be edgy. The tragedy of Zim is not that "The Man" shut a brilliant artist down for being too confrontational with modern society, as many fans would like to believe. The tragedy is in the fact that a show so different and creative, relying on comedy not often used in kids TV, was cut short due to low ratings and large budgets. Because, in the end, that's what really kills a show, not artistic statements. It's all about the Benjamins, every time. If Nick had a show in which racially stereotypical characters shot feces at each other in an odd visualization of the conflict between the cultures of different races, Nick couldn't care less as long as it was making money.
Indeed, if I chose to revive a show, Megas XLR would win. It's nice to know other people enjoy it as well.
If you like cartoons, go watch Flapjack, as it is awesome.
That all being said though, I fucking love Megas XLR and I'm still pissed at Cartoon Network for killing that off! Hell, they even ignored the gigantic DVD petition list, those assholes. COME ON CARTOON NETWORK, WE! DIG! GIANT ROBOTS! That channel can't do much of anything right anymore...well, aside from Flapjack (Which I hear is about to get cancelled too, unfortunately) and the previews I saw for some other new cartoon airing during the Looney Tunes marathon on New Year's day. Oh, what I wouldn't give for a grand animated renaissance...
Now Megas XLR was ahead of it's time. I think if it came out now it'd be a lot more successful. That's not saying it was bad before though, shit XLR was fucking awesome.
Also, videogames
They were paying him though, yeah. Still they had to have put up for him as long as they did because what he made was good. Interesting to hear that financial reasons were part of why the show was canceled.
It's still a decent show. I'm not going to not like something just because it's popular.
You should read some of John K.'s blog (he created Ren and Stimpy), he's a complete jerk. Half the time in his blog, he gripes about other companies work, or trashes other cartoons/animated films, and how animation is so far away from children.
And this was coming from a guy who has done hardly anything for kids. Sorry, Ren and Stimpy hit a VERY fine line between adult and kids, when it wasn't censored.
I think this is where "artists" (even in the game industry), need to come to terms with how they can become a success. I don't mean sacrifice everything you love about your creation, but keeping in mind the audience, or POTENTIAL audience, is a necessity.
Also, Venture Bros. is currently the best cartoon on TV.
Also, also, Megas XLR BEYOTCH!
Also, also, also, it's great to see I'm not the only one who remembers Samurai Jack. The use of only color without outlines was genius.
I'm a pretty big animation guy myself, we should grab a drink sometime and watch a Pixar flick.
I like the show, yeah, but I don't worship the animators' eraser shavings or anything.
THIS is my favorite cartoon as of late:
Phineas and Ferb
/golfer's clap.
All I really wanted to contribute was this:
Your generation needs to get over... random as a form of comedy. It's just not comedy.
That's pretty much it.
I've been trying to agree with this but I think random has a place. Just shouldn't be the spotlight of the humor.
I'm looking at you Family Guy.
"Invader Zim to me always had the taint of "mainstream counterculture" all the fans i ran into were hot topic shopping douchebags. One of the best cartoons of last decade was Courage the Cowardly Dog. As a kid, i could always count of Courage to overcome hiw fears and get shit done. Not to mention it had "Kats" one of the coolest villians of any cartoon. Courage FTW!"
This.
Spongebob? Early episodes were good. After like Season 3 or so, the show got really shitty and stuff they did was just horrible.
While I understand both sides of the "invader zim" situation, I don't blame Vasquez for leaving. I understand he didn't want Nick to screw with his child and he's not really wrong for it. It's just a simple "GTFO then if you can't work with the team" deal. No one's really wrong here. It's simple business.
Zim's good, but I didn't think it was "THE CARTOON OF ALL TIME TO BE PRAISED" that people make it.
And ya, I agree, Spongebob is kind of amazing. It recently celebrated it's 10 year birthday!
@Khazar222: No, Cartoon Network was too cheap to market Megas DvDs. You can get Megas off of Itunes, however.
@Jim Sterling and ScanCase: I do not personally enjoy Spongebob as much as Megas or Jack, but that's merely because it's not my "style," so to speak. I still consider it to be a real milestone in the history of TV cartoons, similar to a lower-age-group "Simpsons" in its scope, standard of quality, and marketability.
@Sonic9jct: I agree, Spongebob was considerably better for the first few seasons. However, how are we to know that Zim, Megas, or even Jack wouldn't have faced the same decline, when none of the three made it over four seasons (and only one even made it to three)?
@Grimspoon and Xzyliac: I personally hold random to be a very cheap form of comedy. I laugh at it, but I don't feel intellectually stimulated by it, so it's hard for me to maintain entertainment when I'm confronted with purely random media.
@Wry Guy: The series was going to take a much more idealistic and 'heroic,' if you will, direction, while also gaining a more streamlined plot. The "Resisty" would become a legitimate force for good and start to topple the Irken Empire, and the Tallest would be revealed as actually being the shortest, but just wearing robot suits, and thus dethroned.
@WanderingPixel: The Venture Bros. is my favorite show on TV, but it has no place in an article about kid's cartoons.
@Clarke: Your loss.
You can argue Spongebob is worse, but spongebob isn't championed as this indie underground whatever like Zim was.
Also, could Inavder Zim become the next Nightmare Before Xmas in terms of marketing? They will put Jack Skellington's face on literally anything and sell it nowadays. I mean, the only thing I haven't seen yet is a Jack Skellington baby coffin (but I gots hope). I already have seen way too many Invader Zim arm bands, t-shirts, etc for my liking.
Actually witnessing people get down on their knees and worship the cartoon and the Hot Topic merchandise (yep, seen it done) is insane.
Also...Courage rocked. Whenever I see it on, I flip to the channel so me and my son can watch it. Too bad it was canceled.
The symptoms appear to have faded, but that could just be because I avoid hives of those who would do that sort of thing anymore.
... though I do miss "Tripping the Rift" and am sad it got canceled... though I guess it was never a kid's cartoon and it's unlikely to evoke childhood memories for anyone!LOL!
I was about 10 when I first watched that show and I was hooked from the beginning. People think that kids that age can't appreciate that kind of show but me and my sister were even younger than that when we watched Zim.
Plot-wise, at least three episodes left me in tears. Namely, episode X "Jack and the Lava Monster," XIX "Jack Remembers the Past," and XLIV "The Princess and the Bounty Hunters."