Quantcast
Destructoid - Shin Oni's Community Blog




About Me


Alias: Shin Oni
Age: 22


My Facebook?:Facebook
My Myspace?:Myspace









Systems Owned:
PS2
PS1
Wii
Xbox 360
Dreamcast
Snes
Nes
Nintendo DS
Nintendo DS Lite
Sony PSP

Currently Playing:
Borderlands
Tales of Eternia
BlazBlue
Tekken 6
Phantasy Star Online: Blue Burst
Dungeon Fighter Online
Gamer Profile
3DS friend code:
Steam: Shin0ni
Battle:
PSN:
Mii: Shin Oni
Gamertag: Shin Oni
Following (85)
13thDragon
AlucardX24
Andrex
Ashley Davis
BahamutZero
BlindsideDork
Bob Muir
Brian Szabelski
Butmac
Caitlin Cooke
casualweaponry
Cataract
ceark
Chad Concelmo
CheapyD
Colette Bennett
Cowzilla3
Cutie Honey
Dale North
Danmartigan
Dao2-SKP
de BLOO
Diverse
DtoidBaltimoreDC
dTunes
EternalDeathSlayer
Everyday Legend
Evil Cheese
Excremento
FAILCAST
free touch
Funktastic
Gen Eric Gui
geoffuws
GrayFox
grrlaction
GuitarAtomik
Hitogoroshi
Ichigo Style
Idsanty
Jim Sterling
keener
kwaselow
Kyttie
MatCD
MATTFOO
michiyoyoshiku
MissHinasaki
mistic
MrSadistic
NadjaRiot
naia-the-gamer
Nick Chester
nilcam
nintendoll
OhJAM
Pacman
ParaParaKing
pinksage
Pixelated Lilac
Podsumaki
power-glove
Procyon
Puppy Licks
RAB
riomccarthy
Riser Glen
Rockvillian
s0lesurviv0r
Sadie G
SakuChan
Senisan
Shin Oni
Snaileb
SonicTHP
Spectral
superflossy
TewDee
Togail
Topher Cantler
tsunamikitsune
Variable Gear
Vixen
Y0j1mb0
youkilledmyguy
Reasons why No More Heroes won't be a Killer 7 flop.
Shin Oni | 1:55 AM on 01.22.2008 27 comments


Something I thought up of after seeing NMH hits Tomorrow (well shipped tomorrow...really Wed for most of us.) Just a few reasons why NMH won't end up being just a Killer 8.

1. It's on the Wii. that enough says alot.
2. Already has some buzz going on with the majority of us gamers that know of it.
3. Brawl isn't out. Meaning people will need things to play until march. This is why NMH has another saving grace.
4. It won't be looked at as a "kiddy" game to the people who seem to think Wii only has "kiddy games".


The only downfalls here would probably be the first reason I gave. It's on the Wii as that a plus for people who have it, it's a minus for those who don't have it. Plus seeing Brawl was pushed back, it gives people so much time to fill the void of that nonsense of a game to be released. I really hate pulling out the "kiddy game" card but for these idiots out here claiming there's not a good game or non kiddy looking game on the wii, they can shut up just alittle more now. But i'm sure someone's gonna make this look kiddy because "it's all cartonny" or some BS nonsense like so.

so are we prepared? You best be.



Is this post awesome? Vote it up!

0



Post a comment! You can also post a photo below:

Comment with Facebook





Click connect and comment instantly!

Comment with Dtoid





New? SIGN UP - it takes 5 seconds

26 comments | showing # 1 to 26
prev next

MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 02:08
MrSadistic
I still think No More Heroes will be one of those games that is generally overlooked by the general public, but will gain a cult following.
Lazlow's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 02:15
Lazlow
I would love to see it sell well but I can't see it happening. The worst thing is there are lesser quality games out there that will sell more.
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 02:15
Shin Oni
I somewhat think that myself. But I have a small disagreement inside of me saying otherwise.
njsykora's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 02:17
njsykora
It will be seen as a kiddy game, it has more colours than red, blue, grey and brown.
liqideos's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 02:39
liqideos
Also, Ubisoft publishing this will have something to do with it. Killer 7 had everything going wrong for it. It was a part of the doomed Capcom 5 (aside from RE4), which were all practically commercial flops.

And let's not forget that a good solid portion of the Wii owners out there won't play it unless it has 35 watered down minigames comprising the core gameplay.
liqideos's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 02:39
liqideos
Also, Ubisoft publishing this will have something to do with it. Killer 7 had everything going wrong for it. It was a part of the doomed Capcom 5 (aside from RE4), which were all practically commercial flops.

And let's not forget that a good solid portion of the Wii owners out there won't play it unless it has 35 watered down minigames comprising the core gameplay.
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 02:46
Jim Sterling
Suda should cut his losses and release it on the 360. I wouldn't be surprised if he did.
Variable Gear's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 03:14
Variable Gear
@ liqideos:

Could you explain what you meant by this:

"Also, Ubisoft publishing this will have something to do with it."

I think that Ubisoft has done a horrible job promoting the game. They have done nothing at all for it. They just pushed the release date forward, printed 100,000 copies, and have sent it to die. I will buy it, but I don't know how many other people will. If you a serious gamer who also owns a Wii, you fucking better support this game!
liqideos's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 03:26
liqideos
Ubisoft typically has a good track record with their titles as of late. I can't necessarily hold it against them that this title is VERY niche. The people that will buy this game are the same type of gamers that bought Killer 7.

Not every game can be a megaton hit.

And yes, 360 version PLEASE.
liqideos's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 03:27
liqideos
Ubisoft typically has a good track record with their titles as of late. I can't necessarily hold it against them that this title is VERY niche. The people that will buy this game are the same type of gamers that bought Killer 7.

Not every game can be a megaton hit.

And yes, 360 version PLEASE.
Ichigo Style's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 03:55
Ichigo Style
I'm not so sure it's entirely up to that...
Suda 51 left a bad taste in some gamers mouths, not because of him, but rather the way that Capcom presented his other "cult game", killer7. Capcom largely totted this game around as "some kind of bad ass game where you shoot stuff, or some shit like that! Man, you've got guns and you go around blowing shit up!". I recall working at Gamestop and people being absolutely furious that they were mislead about the game. I don't think this was any of Suda's fault, but people see both of these as his games, I'm hoping it does well, I'm sure looking forward to it.
liqideos's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 04:07
liqideos
Misleading? Would you care to explain the plot in a way that wouldn't blow most peoples minds then? It's a very offensive game when you break it down.
liqideos's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 04:14
liqideos
Misleading? Would you care to explain the plot in a way that wouldn't blow most peoples minds then? It's a very offensive game when you break it down.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 04:56
EternalDeathSlayer
Jim Sterling has the right idea, although honestly it would hurt to see the game on another system.

As for it not being a flop, I'd have to say I disagree. Well, somewhat. I could see this managing 200,000 copies, maybe 250k. But that's being optimistic. A more reality-based figure is probably 100k to 150k. Not quite a flop, but damn close.

The truly hardcore will buy it but that's probably it.

I know I'm picking it up because it's awesome and because we need to support these games or we won't contine to get them in the future. Speak with your wallets people.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 06:44
Jonathan Holmes
Jim is right. NMH would probably sell better on the 360, but not much better. It has the same thing going against it on both platforms.

What do you think the average meathead think when he walks into a video game store and looks at the games for the console he owns, be it the 360 or the Wii, and he sees No More Heroes?

He thinks "I've never heard of this before. Looks stupid." and buys Halo 3 or Mario Galaxy instead.

Actually, No More Heroes would probably sell best on the PS3. It's ownership is the most likely to read video game blogs on a daily basis, and the system has no competition on it other than Drake's Fortune.
Rockvillian's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 07:47
Rockvillian
@holmes

It's sad when we can all agree that the average person wouldn't choose a Wii game with an f'n LIGHT SABER on the front of the box.

And, too bad there's not a demographic that picks up smaller development titles like NMH in the same way that the other group unhesitatingly picks up Carnival Games.

Wait there is a group like that: us*!


*only catch is we're WAY smaller than the Imagine Babiez "userbase"
MissHinasaki's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 08:09
MissHinasaki
Cult following ensues.....NOW!

This is the only game that has made me, I hate to say it, want to buy a Wii. I'm just not into Nintendo's overly interactive (waggle) shenanigans that they've been pulling lately. I'm not going to say "kiddie games," but it is pretty sad how games have been degraded to waggling a white block around and calling it controls. It just leaves you wanting something. And hopefully No More Heroes can at least fill the void for Wii owners. But since there seemingly new demographic is casual gamers, it is less likely that an already labeled "cult classic" game will make it big on that platform. True, it would be nice if Suda 51 came to the dark side (360), especially since he would be more appreciated there, but you have to admit that even the mere charging of a beam katana (which you just know was meant to be suggestive) will bring you some joy in the Wii system that those other games just don't offer to more mature audiences.

My guess is that it won't fly as high as we would like it, but I don't want to call it a flop. But god dammit, it just might be able to muster enough strength to pull a new audience to the Wii.

Can it be No More Heroes Day yet?
MissHinasaki's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 08:19
MissHinasaki
Also, we should have a little faith.

I mean, look at all the people here who are like, "I'm gonna buy this good damn game no matter what and I'm gonna force my friends to buy it, too!" I know I'm being naive, but just maybe the hardcore people like us can make it pull through. And them maybe the Wii might change a little. After all, actions speak loader than words and if a shit ton of people take interest in a M rated Wii game, it could pull the demographics a little bit more towards us. Unfortunately, I don't think No More Heroes will be able to be that game.
Lightthrower's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 08:20
Lightthrower
NMH sold horribly in Japan, so i don't see it sell very well here.
Hitogoroshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 08:21
Hitogoroshi
Sounds like pretty good reasoning.

I'll most likely pick this up.
Bluefusion's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 08:43
Bluefusion
@MissHinasaki: But we all said the same thing about Zack and Wiki. I went out and bought it, and many of us did the same, to show support. On top of that, IGN practically put up banners telling people to buy this game. And I think they have much more of a casual viewer base than this site does.

But when I bought it at TRU about two months after its release, the guy said this was the first copy he's sold other than the one he bought himself. ><
Tubatic's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 08:57
Tubatic
Sales numbers in Japan won't necessarily translate to failure here. I forget what, but there are a couple games that tank in Japan that sold well in the US (GTA3?)

Truth to tell though, I don't think it's going to sell amazingly big here. There really has been no major exposure or major advertising for it. Granted, I don't watch alot of TV, but, has anyone seen a TV commercial or bus add for this game?

I'm buying it.
mistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 09:36
mistic
I'll surely be getting this game :-) then I can finally blow the dust of my Wii...
Rockvillian's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 09:45
Rockvillian
They might not hear our shouts, but they can definitely see our money.
Aziel13's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 10:21
Aziel13
and thats why I pick it up today at 11a.m as soon as the Man/Woman in brown arrives
MissHinasaki's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/22/2008 12:45
MissHinasaki
I might just buy this game and I don't even own a Wii.

I had a friend who did that with Halo 3. Just bought the game and took it to a friends house. >_>

@Bluefusion
Yes. But Zak & Wiki ended up being a little more childish than expected. Sorry. I was unimpressed.

@Tubatic
Very true. Failure in Japan does not mean failure in the US. Didn't they even say that the demographics for the Wii are even more skewed in Japan? Isn't WiiPlay or Wiisports or something like that currently the top selling Wii game in Japan? It's an entirely different market.
prev next

Comment with Facebook





Click connect and comment instantly!

Comment with Dtoid





New? SIGN UP - it takes 5 seconds

Comments policy

Destructoid is an open discussion community. You don't need to "audition" to post a comment - just speak your mind. We respect differing opinions on the site, so have at it. Be smart, funny, insightful, clueless, or cute -- but back it up with substance. Keep your cool, keep it fun. We only ask that you act respectfully and above all: don't be a troll and ruin it for everyone else. Don't bring down gamers or we'll, you know, gently shoot you in the face and stuff you into a flaming mailbox. Each comment is your opportuntity to make this community awesomer. Is that even a word?

Avoiding the banhammer only requires common sense: spamming, trolling, racism, NSFW stuff, and other forms of sucking will not be tolerated. If anyone is griefing please report abuse. Be good. Don't suck!