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If you love it, Change it: Shinobi
Shin Oni | 7:26 PM on 05.13.2008 10 comments




Being an avid Shinobi lover back on the Genesis (I played 2 and up...missed out on 1.) I couldn't get enough of it. A lone ninja (Joe Musashi) going off on an adventure that....I can't quite remember. No matter, it expanded pass the Genesis to what I believe was either Sega CD or that 32X crap. Neither I had. It really didn't make it's appearance again until the PS2 version which I remember Sega hyping up more than enough with the "SHINOBI'S BAK!!" commercial. Got it for christmas, fell in love with it. But most people will tell you to get Ninja Gaiden over Shinobi. I personally say get both and shut up. But what can be improved in the Shinobi series. Man where to start.


Don't that guy look familiar? No? Hiros anyone?

PROBLEMS
the Biggest problem of all Shinobi games that me, my friends, and my sister joke about is....SHINOBI CANT SWIM! In real life, you can't be a damn ninja and not have some type of swimming abilities. I could understand in the original 3 on the Genesis and only to an extent. But when the PS2 version hit, I figure, "Shinobi should be able to swim on" *Drowns in water.* ".....". This sceneario is common. Especially on one of the many stages in the PS2 version where the stage is pretty much..covered in water. Granted it takes the fun out of the game if such a stage is implemented, but it just means a need for a better stage would arise if Shinobi could swim.

Granted, this problem I wouldn't complain about as it adds to the hardness of this game, but there have been times where I wish you had some type of halfway point. Yea. You know what i'm talking about. Especially on those long ass stages where you'll be near the end and BAM. Fall in a hole, drown, or killed...only to start allllllllllllllllllllllll the way at eht beginning of the stage. Such things can and WILL discourage people to stop playing for the rest of the day (or at least for a few hours.) You start at the beginning of a fight if you die at a boss, but no save point for actual stages? Come on sega.

Speaking of dying, the PS2 Shinobi (which i'll just call Shinobi from here on out.) well...feels too easy when there's infinite lives. I guess Sega figure if you die too many times and too far in a stage, you'll be too pissed off to play that many times. Not really me. Back on the original Shinobi, there were halfway points, certain amount of lives, stuff that'd make you risk your ninja ass to get. At least with lives, you can have a halfway point and when lives are gone, THEN you send us back to the beginning of the stage.

Now i'm sure most of you (or I hope) skipped the last Shinobi incarnation, Nightshade. Which was somewhat a sequal to Shinobi but only by the sword. The game itself was a rather letdown compared to the first one and the controls changed alittle (which..kinda didn't help.) I tried to like the game, but it just felt clunky, the story was boring, and without the "Tate" system introduced in Shinobi, the game was well...it felt dull. No need to go around looking for enemies or actually TRYING to build the sword's killing spree to prevent it from eating away from your health. Which leads me to...

The Tate system. When I first played it, I loved this system. It made you not sit around all willy nilly like looking around and that you had to keep moving if you didn't want the sword to eat away at your health. Not only that, once you unlocked Hotsuma's brother, Moritsune (I think that's right.) playing through the game with him made the sword eat away quicker. Then Joe Musashi, for old school memories, made players have infinite shuruikens (which were stronger used with Joe.) and the sword was secondary (not eating sword either.) I loved it and if we were talking a new Shinobi, lets throw it back in Sega.

granted i'm sure there's more to add for this series alone, I overall think it's already decent...just needs alittle work. But what do you guys think of the Shinobi Series as a whole? what else could be added and taken away?



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Animated Trigger's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/13/2008 20:48
Animated Trigger
The PS2 version was one of the first two games I got with my PS2 and I loved it...up until I kept dying in the fourth level. Over. And over. And over again, until I just gave up and traded it back in begrudgingly. Shinobi 3 is on my Wii, gifted by a friend, but its difficulty is beating my ass too. Nice write-up, sir.
Dynamic Sheep's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/13/2008 20:51
Dynamic Sheep
Needs more pizza loving, teenage-turtle ninjas. And Spider-Man... definitely Spider-Man
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/13/2008 21:14
Shin Oni
Turtles screaming "MY TOE MY TOE!!" and men in spider costumes swinging across the screen would really help out.
Cowboy TTop's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/13/2008 21:27
Cowboy TTop
I still think the Shinobi series has a lot of potential, and in the wake of Ninja Gaiden success, Sega should perhaps outsource it to get the series up to scratch again. Both PS2 games should have done much better, but for some reason ended up like the Tenchu series, losing its edge that made it great.

Maybe the should put the team that created Viking: Battle for Asgard onto it. Whatever they do, they clearly need help, as Shinobi hasn't honestly been good since the 16bit days of Shinobi 3.
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/13/2008 21:32
Shin Oni
I agree at least half on that. As I enjoyed Shinobi even with the silly water deaths and restarts from point 0, I still enjoyed it. It's not like I wouldn't play it, but as you stated, it has potential, just needs to head back to the roots. I wouldn't even mind a 2.5d Shinobi if it had to go that far. side scroll with 3d graphics and backgrounds if it were to go that far.
RJG's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/13/2008 23:02
RJG
I was just thinking about doing this post. I re-discovered Shadow Dancer the other day. I still haven't beaten it. That game is bloody awesome. I really wish they still made games like that.
cjpkiller's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/14/2008 00:49
cjpkiller
I loved the ps2 shinobi, I am currently stuck on the last boss... as he is a bitch, I have been stuck on him for about two years now, at one point I just stopped playing it.

however the sequel was total shit, I bought it, played it for five minutes, and returned it in the same day.

not only was the main character some bitch, but the whole game felt horrible.

I could be down for another shinobi though... the old ones were great, the first ps2 one was great...
and I think its quite excellent that he couldnt swim, and it makes sense because the man has like 9000 knives on him... knives are heavy.
animateria's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/14/2008 02:22
animateria
They need to have the RED SCARF!

Would be an obvious statement.

But if they stylize it even more, with effects like Okami or the SF4 trailers. That would be awesome.

I think that Shinobi has the potential to look very artsy. The final enemy deaths can look even more bad ass for instance.
Shin Oni's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/14/2008 21:56
Shin Oni
I loved the scarf. I've run around 1 too many times in circles in the first one just....fooling with the scarf.

then the 2nd one tried it and well...it didn't do so well.
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