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It's likely that the game will be good, but I just don't see why they can't come up with their own damn name.
Preach on brudda, this is exactly how I feel as well. People are just getting their pubes in a knot over this for no reason. A game based exactly on Dante's Inferno would be boring. You would walk, talk to Virgil, and look at the damned... that's it.
Front page-ify needed.
Front page-ify needed.
I agree with you that the importnt thing is to realize that this isn't a direct retelling, really just inspired by.
Um definitely no front page for this.
Jim wrote an article saying the exact same thing 3 days ago.
Hence my first comment.
Jim wrote an article saying the exact same thing 3 days ago.
Hence my first comment.
@sickNasty
LOL, seriously? One guy writes an article about something and no one else can write an article about the same thing? Give me a break, dude. I certainly don't expect this to get front-paged, for that very reason; but I sure as hell can write about my own damn opinion, if I want to.
LOL, seriously? One guy writes an article about something and no one else can write an article about the same thing? Give me a break, dude. I certainly don't expect this to get front-paged, for that very reason; but I sure as hell can write about my own damn opinion, if I want to.
I don't mind that they did it, but looking at the game so far it does seem like something of a missed opportunity considering the source material. Sure, it might be a very fun game, but it doesn't look like it's going to be an -interesting- one.
Ok maybe I went about it in a dick way, but my original point still stands.
Yeah I know people can have the same opinion. But really this article brought nothing new to the discussion that Jim didn't already touch on. It's like you just reworded every point he made, right down to the God of War reference.
You might as well have written a blog post that just said "I agree with Jim's article"
Yeah I know people can have the same opinion. But really this article brought nothing new to the discussion that Jim didn't already touch on. It's like you just reworded every point he made, right down to the God of War reference.
You might as well have written a blog post that just said "I agree with Jim's article"
Because I absolutely love The Divine Comedy, I've always been on of those ppl who were up in arms EA turning it into some non-related hack & slash game. But after seeing the trailer, it looks like a really fun game to me.
The thing the "bothers" me is that they don't call it God of War instead of "Whatever Myth Kratos Was In" and change so many fundamental things from the source material. Even though they made Frodo into a 20 year old and raped Glorfindel in the LOTR movies, those changes didn't impact the theme of the movie or the main storyline thaaat much.
When you call a game Dante's Inferno, change the passive observer viewpoint of the main character into an active brute one, change Dante into some generic badass and turn Beatrice into his fiance... That is quite some loose adaptation.
Imagine if they made a Diary of Anne Frank game and turned her into a stealthy jewish spy who has to use acrobatics to traverse rooftops and backstab Nazis? That would actually be pretty sweet, unless they called it Anne Frank's Rooftop Diary.
There is a lot you can do with something like Inferno. You can make it a thought provoking adventure and/or hit the themes of the poem by using whatever character you want to follow in Alighieri's footsteps. But taking Dante and turning him into something that was so opposite of who he was is something different. As a character, he also never took part or was able to overcome the horror he saw in Inferno. Now he is just being turned into some guy who rapes all hell spawn that resides there.
I would've preferred it if they would've just called the game Inferno and turned the main character into someone else than Dante. Maybe someone who was just following him or guarding him while he took his journey or something.
Either way, ppl will get over it when they have games to play instead of being bored online, and if the game is good: ppl will enjoy it. I'll give the game a try regardless of source material rape. That doesn't mean I won't facepalm whenever they announce some "adaptation" of some part of the book though :)
The thing the "bothers" me is that they don't call it God of War instead of "Whatever Myth Kratos Was In" and change so many fundamental things from the source material. Even though they made Frodo into a 20 year old and raped Glorfindel in the LOTR movies, those changes didn't impact the theme of the movie or the main storyline thaaat much.
When you call a game Dante's Inferno, change the passive observer viewpoint of the main character into an active brute one, change Dante into some generic badass and turn Beatrice into his fiance... That is quite some loose adaptation.
Imagine if they made a Diary of Anne Frank game and turned her into a stealthy jewish spy who has to use acrobatics to traverse rooftops and backstab Nazis? That would actually be pretty sweet, unless they called it Anne Frank's Rooftop Diary.
There is a lot you can do with something like Inferno. You can make it a thought provoking adventure and/or hit the themes of the poem by using whatever character you want to follow in Alighieri's footsteps. But taking Dante and turning him into something that was so opposite of who he was is something different. As a character, he also never took part or was able to overcome the horror he saw in Inferno. Now he is just being turned into some guy who rapes all hell spawn that resides there.
I would've preferred it if they would've just called the game Inferno and turned the main character into someone else than Dante. Maybe someone who was just following him or guarding him while he took his journey or something.
Either way, ppl will get over it when they have games to play instead of being bored online, and if the game is good: ppl will enjoy it. I'll give the game a try regardless of source material rape. That doesn't mean I won't facepalm whenever they announce some "adaptation" of some part of the book though :)
To be perfectly honest, I don't think this will make anyone read Inferno. People keep trying to make the point that it will "raise awareness" of the epic poem and that people might go out and try reading it.
When was the last time a game inspired you to do research of any nature? For me it was Bioshock, and that was just reading up on the complete plot based off of the audio diaries.
Even if a gamer did try to pick up the book, how many of them would actually get farther than 5 pages? It's not an easy read by any stretch of the imagination. And once people realize that Dante doesn't kick the crap out of Death or smash peoples' faces in with a cross, they'll lose interest pretty quickly.
Don't get me wrong, the world's not going to end or anything if this game comes out. It's just disappointing to see what could have been a GREAT game dumbed down to what will probably be an ok action game.
As for the Kratos argument...Kratos is probably one of the least significant gods in Greek mythology. He appears in only one Greek play, for maybe about 15 lines. Changing his character has no deep impact upon the literature.
Also, I think Dane Cook movies are shit. But more to the point, those weren't, at any point, meant to be serious, while Inferno was.
I expect more from the video game industry than some half-assed attempt to turn an epic poem into a cash cow.
When was the last time a game inspired you to do research of any nature? For me it was Bioshock, and that was just reading up on the complete plot based off of the audio diaries.
Even if a gamer did try to pick up the book, how many of them would actually get farther than 5 pages? It's not an easy read by any stretch of the imagination. And once people realize that Dante doesn't kick the crap out of Death or smash peoples' faces in with a cross, they'll lose interest pretty quickly.
Don't get me wrong, the world's not going to end or anything if this game comes out. It's just disappointing to see what could have been a GREAT game dumbed down to what will probably be an ok action game.
As for the Kratos argument...Kratos is probably one of the least significant gods in Greek mythology. He appears in only one Greek play, for maybe about 15 lines. Changing his character has no deep impact upon the literature.
Also, I think Dane Cook movies are shit. But more to the point, those weren't, at any point, meant to be serious, while Inferno was.
I expect more from the video game industry than some half-assed attempt to turn an epic poem into a cash cow.
@sickNasty
What business is it of yours, what I write on my own blog? I didn't try to copy Jim. I briefly read his article, probably not even all the way through, and I don't really remember anything about it, other than agreeing with it wholeheartedly. I have a terrible memory. I mean, give me a fucking break, man. Why do you have to bring me down? Either add to the conversation, say something clever, or fuck off. I'm sorry, I don't mean to be rude, but that's what it boils down to, and I really don't need petty, unnecessary whining right now, anyway. I get enough of that from the anti-Dante's Inferno people. ;)
What business is it of yours, what I write on my own blog? I didn't try to copy Jim. I briefly read his article, probably not even all the way through, and I don't really remember anything about it, other than agreeing with it wholeheartedly. I have a terrible memory. I mean, give me a fucking break, man. Why do you have to bring me down? Either add to the conversation, say something clever, or fuck off. I'm sorry, I don't mean to be rude, but that's what it boils down to, and I really don't need petty, unnecessary whining right now, anyway. I get enough of that from the anti-Dante's Inferno people. ;)
@Nintendoll
I think you're being far too cynical about gamers. I'm not referring to Xbox Live morons, here. And even then, you'd be surprised. Even the Halo trilogy has inspired people to do their research into the series' various references, and I know that for a fact. People are curious creatures. While it will only be a relatively small percentage of gamers who take an interest in the game's source material, they are out there. If this can inspire me to take an interest, I know that it will inspire others. I'm not the only thoughtful gamer out there. Our Destructoid community should be evidence enough.
re: Kratos. I'm aware of that, but my general points still stand. Sometimes things must be changed, in order to make a smooth transition between mediums.
Dane Cook is shit. It's an analogy; it's not perfect. Work with me, woman. FFS. :)
I expect more from the video game industry than some half-assed attempt to turn an epic poem into a cash cow.
Really? LOL. But seriously, I greatly doubt it originated this way. The person who came up with the idea probably just saw an opportunity to make an interesting game. I would feel the same way. I love the idea of navigating the nine levels of hell in a game. I would jump at the chance to help design such a game. I'm sure EA wants money first and foremost, but how about turning the cynicism down a notch? I really don't think it's as bad as you make it.
No matter how you paint it, it will always be needless fussing to me. It's just a poem and it's just a game. In the great, grand scheme of things, who cares, you know?
I think you're being far too cynical about gamers. I'm not referring to Xbox Live morons, here. And even then, you'd be surprised. Even the Halo trilogy has inspired people to do their research into the series' various references, and I know that for a fact. People are curious creatures. While it will only be a relatively small percentage of gamers who take an interest in the game's source material, they are out there. If this can inspire me to take an interest, I know that it will inspire others. I'm not the only thoughtful gamer out there. Our Destructoid community should be evidence enough.
re: Kratos. I'm aware of that, but my general points still stand. Sometimes things must be changed, in order to make a smooth transition between mediums.
Dane Cook is shit. It's an analogy; it's not perfect. Work with me, woman. FFS. :)
I expect more from the video game industry than some half-assed attempt to turn an epic poem into a cash cow.
Really? LOL. But seriously, I greatly doubt it originated this way. The person who came up with the idea probably just saw an opportunity to make an interesting game. I would feel the same way. I love the idea of navigating the nine levels of hell in a game. I would jump at the chance to help design such a game. I'm sure EA wants money first and foremost, but how about turning the cynicism down a notch? I really don't think it's as bad as you make it.
No matter how you paint it, it will always be needless fussing to me. It's just a poem and it's just a game. In the great, grand scheme of things, who cares, you know?
