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A note on improper handling of the female gender in the gaming world
ShadokatRegn | 3:55 PM on 02.03.2008 80 comments


The idea of backward-compatibility with video games is fantastic--in theory. When in reality you pick up a game you remember loving absolutely to death, and go "wow, that was really blah." Then on the other hand, you get a feeling of nostalgia and remember the good old days--it's a double edged sword.

Somewhat recently, I picked up Off World Interceptor Extreme (from back when adding "extreme" to the end of a game title actually made it seem better) which I had played when I was about 9-10 years old at the neighbors house on the old brick Playstation. Now, after looking for this game for ages, I played it, and it got that blah feeling along with the fantastic feeling of accomplishment.



Now to the point. Game force went mostly out of business about 5-10 years ago, leaving only a few locations left in major cities. Game Force was always notorious for having very obscure things, for instance, I saw a Super Nintendo controller still in the box, so to nostalgic gamers this place has become a hard to find friend.

However, to female gamers, not so much.

My story begins with the guy behind the counter, who was under the impression that because I was a girl, I didn't know what I was doing. First I wandered around the store, looking at game cube, xbox, play station 1, and dream cast stuff--and he stops me and says "You do know these are all different systems, right?"

I just stared at him.

Then I found my game, Off World—and as I'm getting ready to pay he goes "You know this isn't Odd World right, no cute little green guys?" at which point my head goes through a million nasty, rude comebacks, but my mouth just says "excuse me?" in a really frustrated voice. Of course, after a few minutes I can't resist, and I proceed to explain to him exactly how rude it is to assume I have no idea what I'm doing simply because I'm in a skirt. (Also, the manager I complained to looked like Uncle Rico from Napoleon Dynamite.)

I got the game half-price.

Anyone can complain about gamestop, or any other game store for that matter – but it really comes down to the employees, and what level of ignorance the company is prepared to tolerate.

Gamestop has a wonderful feedback system on their receipts – so have a voice, complain about bad service, and there is usually actually something done about it. Sexual harassment is definitely up there on the “will crack skulls” list, but there are any other number of reasons a store can be audited by the district manager (you just have to phrase things well.) I've seen it happen.

Also, I'm still O.K. with Cocks. Seriously.



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Tragic Hero's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 16:09
Tragic Hero
Well thats a relief that you're still ok with cocks.

Hell I usually agree with steriotypes but that Uncle Rico just seemed like a douche.
demonelite's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 16:10
demonelite
lol, I dont think some people will ever accept that girls play games, I call those people virgins.
ShadokatRegn's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 16:11
ShadokatRegn
Which stereotypes are you referring to? and the Uncle Rico guy was the manager, not the dumb kid that was being a condescending dick.
Neonie's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 16:15
Neonie
"Then I found my game, Off World—and as I'm getting ready to pay he goes "You know this isn't Odd World right, no cute little green guys?"

People like that need to be kicked in the balls.
Tragic Hero's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 16:16
Tragic Hero
Its just really rare that girls play games and where that actually means the same thing when it comes to guys playing games.

Like this one girl I dated said she played Tekken and was awesome at it. I thought "great, someone I can play competatively against". I start to play and she picks Christie (typical girl pick) and then I just own her with Paul Pheonix.

Its just rare to find actual gamers that are girls
ShadokatRegn's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 16:18
ShadokatRegn
Well, I'd say my taste in games, and the fact that I'm not half bad at most of them, makes me a gamer in general. But to be blatantly ridiculous is just - ridiculous.
MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 16:18
MrSadistic
Yeah I'm also relieved that you're still squared with the cocks.

I remember playing that game and thought it was horrible. Shame on you Crystal Dynamics. Also, you should have kneed that douche in the nuts for acting like.. well.. a douche. Also, I remember some shit, which I can't remember, went down at an EB Games and they gave me store credit in return.
Tragic Hero's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 16:20
Tragic Hero
@ShadowkatRegn

Just general ones. You're an exception of course but most girls I meet (like stated in last post) say they are gamers but they end up sucking at them or only like the "popular" games.
ShadokatRegn's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 16:20
ShadokatRegn
@ mrSadistic

Nice icon change, and if it is a serious enough offense, you can usually get a lot of free shit out of morons - Without even showing any Boob.
ShadokatRegn's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 16:21
ShadokatRegn
@ Tragic

Yea, I wasn't offended. most of the time I just let it slide, but this guy was especially bad. Almost every time I go into a game store where they don't know me, they immediately ask me what age I'm buying for - like I have kids and need to buy shit for them.
power-glove's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 16:22
power-glove
You know what's funny about that story is that, if he thought that you knew nothing about games, then why would he mention Oddworld. The Oddworld franchise was really a favorite of the hardcore audience rather than a big mainstream franchise.
MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 16:22
MrSadistic
Thanks, and I think at GameStop they give you 3 free games with each boob flash.

I tried it myself, but it didn't work so much.
ShadokatRegn's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 16:25
ShadokatRegn
@ Power-glove

Oddworld for the PS1 was advertised on TV a lot way back when - I wouldn't be surprised if some stupid people did end up getting that particular game, but know nothing about the rest.

I, for one, LOVE the oddworld series. Though its dark humor enough I can't see a lot of girls playing it, so I was pretty stumped in general.

But hey, I was just quoting.
ShadokatRegn's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 16:27
ShadokatRegn
@ MrSadistic

So is that per boob, or for the pair? ;)
TMX-RockMan's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 16:29
TMX-RockMan
Yah I really hate customer service at the gamestores like well Gamestop. I went to reserve a copy of DMC4 and the guy was giving me a bad time about not reserving the limited edition of it, I really didn't mind he was trying to get me to reserve it but it was the attitude he gave me. He really embarassed me by just being a jackass in front of my friend, I still have the reciept, maybe I will call it =] Women should be treated the same. If they don't know what they want they will ask, otherwise leave us gamers alone...we know what we want.
Robert Janelle's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 16:29
Robert Janelle
Sadly, this doesn't just exist in the world of video games...try wearing a skirt when you go out to buy a car.

Years ago, someone I knew told me a story about his mother. The household was just adjusting to the death of his father. She went out to get herself a new car, found the one she liked and was going to go home and think on it...until the salesman said something to the effect of "Come back with the guy with the check book" Uh...WTF?!? That abbreviation is really the only response I can think of to a statement like that and I'm male...
MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 16:30
MrSadistic
By my calculations it's per boob. If the guy is REALLY lonely then you can bump up the amount of games up to 4, maybe 5.
Tragic Hero's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 16:30
Tragic Hero
You know I heard of this deal too. I think if you show both you get 7 games!
TMX-RockMan's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 16:30
TMX-RockMan
@Shadokat

If you show the pair you'll probably get a free console and an extra controller!
MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 16:35
MrSadistic
If you show the woman goods down there, I think you become CEO of the company.
BS3 Owner's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 16:35
BS3 Owner
Kick him in the balls & get a free game!
If it were that easy...

But the boob flash is that easy!
ShadokatRegn's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 16:37
ShadokatRegn
@ Robert

Oh no, I know the deal. Car repair places try to rip me off every time I go in. I had one guy tell me I NEEDED power steering fluid in my car with no power steering, he then couldn't show me where the reservoir was.

I also paint Warhammer figures, and get it in new Games Workshops I go to (or even my regular one, if they get a new guy)

It happens in so many places...this was just the specific example that fit the community. I work retail, and am treated poorly by older men simply because they're used to treating working woman poorly.
ceark's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 16:38
ceark
game force has retro shit? I must go find one of these places -_-
ShadokatRegn's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 16:38
ShadokatRegn
@ MrSadistic and everyone else that jumped in on the boob bandwagon:

Brilliant! I'm set in my gaming career for life!
ShadokatRegn's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 16:39
ShadokatRegn
@Ceark

Gameforce is also going extinct. I think the few left are individually owned. I know of 2 in the entire state of Colorado...
Hamza CTZ Aziz's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 16:47
Hamza CTZ Aziz
I like vaginas!
CaffeinePowered's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 16:47
CaffeinePowered
There was a little local shop like that by me, shame it went out of business the year I moved down to school, I would much rather make purchases there than have to go to GS/GameKrazy for niche titles
ShadokatRegn's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 16:52
ShadokatRegn
@CTZ

Well, do you handle them properly?
MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 16:55
MrSadistic
ProTip: Always take proper care and handling of vaginas.
Sadie G's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 17:28
Sadie G
The only stupid question I ever got asked was if I wanted to pre-order Pokemon and I'm about as girly as you can get. Then again I've been going to the same store for a few years now so I think they know better unless it's a new employee.
Also, boys are kind of dumb at how they approach girls and I see your picture up there so maybe that was his way of flirting?
MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 17:31
MrSadistic
@Sadie

I always act stupid. That is my advantage.

peanut butter shoes
ShadokatRegn's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 17:31
ShadokatRegn
@ Sadie

I've had some failed flirting. its usually in the form of trying to one-up me on everything ("oh yea, well I got that achievement a long time ago") sort of bullshit. This wasn't even close. He was a kid, and a condescending one at that.

Though, I do see your point, he could have just been slightly more retarded than your average bear. In this case, I doubt it, though.

p.s. thanks for the compliment ;)
ShadokatRegn's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 17:32
ShadokatRegn
@ Sadistic

I WANT PEANUT BUTTER SHOES!
MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 17:34
MrSadistic
One-uping you? But... but.. I want to impress girls!!! :(

-flexes-
Sadie G's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 17:37
Sadie G
@ShadokatRegn
Well you know gamer boys, it's like a shock to the system to see a pretty girl who actually knows a thing or two. Also, kudos to you for complaining AND getting half off! More girls should take a stand and not just take it from some dummy.
MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 17:39
MrSadistic
Ow, my pride.
Sadie G's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 17:40
Sadie G
@MrSadistic
If you're having a bad day, you should watch that video of yours LOL :)
MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 17:43
MrSadistic
Hey listen, I don't need that video when I can just enjoy looking at my junk during any time of day.

I mean.. uh not that I do that like some weirdo or anything.
ShadokatRegn's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 17:44
ShadokatRegn
Uh. Right.

Silly gamers. Actually, silly boys.
MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 17:47
MrSadistic
WHAT!

More like silly girls with their high voices, and emotions. Yuk.
shipero's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 17:49
shipero
@MrSadistic

That right bro, you tell those dumb broads who's boss. *strokes beard*
ShadokatRegn's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 17:49
ShadokatRegn
Silly emotions.
MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 17:51
MrSadistic
Yeah I sure did tell those crazy gals off!!

-flexes, drinks a beer, and high fives everyone-
ShadokatRegn's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 17:53
ShadokatRegn
XD this is going to strange new places. I'm not sure I want to stick around for the ride.

We'll just call all the retards that work at game stores and know nothing about woman asexual, and the rest of us are all awesome.
ceark's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 17:56
ceark
@shadowkat
yeah I looked it just now. there was one next to my favorite comic book store and I was like "what? there's one next to my favorite comic book store? how come I never noticed... oh. shitmonkey."

oh well.
ShadokatRegn's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 17:59
ShadokatRegn
@ Ceark

the one I went to was literally a post office. The guy who owned it, also ran the local post office - so if you ever wanted to hold up that particular Game Force it became a much heftier crime attached to a federal building.

They're stealthy.
The GHost's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 18:22
The GHost
'Tis a sad state of affairs. I play TF2 quite regularly and my favorite server (themachine.org) had this great team with a super awesome girl gamer on it, one of the best soldiers I've ever played with/against and the first female to ever win in a Gamespot tournament (mother of 2 to boot). But people were always giving her shit about her gender, making remarks about how she always got heals from the medics, crap like that, and it eventually escalated to the point where she quit the clan and stopped playing on the server altogether :(. Blows me away why some people don't realize that PEOPLE play games, race and gender don't change how good you can be or how much you can know. GAWD! Sorry about the wall of text, but this happened recently and really pissed me off. RAWR!
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 18:22
pedrovay2003
The same thing happened to my friend, Amelia. She's huge into Devil May Cry, and she picked up the first two in the series. But while she was getting rung up at EB Games, she was actually asked if she'd rather have a "nicer, happier game." 8|
ShadokatRegn's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 18:29
ShadokatRegn
But nothing is nicer than DMC!! Seriously, there are puppies, and flowers, and ladybugs around every door!

Stupid people. Tell her to report him. EB games has the same feedback system as Gamestop (they're the same company) and his name should be on the receipt.
TMX-RockMan's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/03/2008 18:30
TMX-RockMan
But Devil May Cry is a happy game!
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