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I love Jade Empire IN SPACE!
Seth338 | 5:13 AM on 01.27.2008 6 comments


Ah Mass Effect, i do love this game. But Jade empire is better for one feature.


No not punching Zombies heads off.

Forgive me for never playing KOTOR, i tend to avoid star wars themed games. But Jade Empire, that was my bread and butter. You know all those reviews who say "There was this this and this wrong with it, but if you like X genre you will love it". I am that guy.

I am a completionist, not in the mass effect achievement way but in the real way. I completed (On most accurate count) Jade Empire 27 times. The reason was all those alternate endings.

Spoilers.

Jade Empire had 3 main endings:

Good

Evil

And stupid...

Stupid always ended the same way so this is the last we talk of it. Here is where it gets good. Each if your followers had their own ending, just a little bit in text but i loved it. And it is the one thing Mass Effect really misses out on. Depending on your interactions with your party their personality can change between good an evil. And that alters how they react to your final choices as either enemies, allies, slaves or dead people. So that is two to three custom endings for each character.

Then there were the relationships, which were a million times better than Mass Effect because there was no pandering heavily advertised sex scene, just a kiss and fade to black. These were

If you are a man:
Dawn Star
Silk Fox

If you are a woman:
Sky

There was also

If you are a woman:
Silk Fox (Yes Jade Empire had lesbian sex all that time ago!)

If you are a man:
Silk Fox and Dawn Star (Hawt threesome action)
Sky - Yes Jade empire had buttsex action as well. Mass Effect had no male Commander Shepard Sir on Kaiden action did it.



This is the main reason i find the stuff about OMG lesbian sex in Mass Effect - internet explodes - really really stupid. Jade empire had threesomes, lesbians and hawt man on man back in 2005.

But that is beside the point, that is another 7 endings there (Trust me, interactions ect)

And then there is alignment, depending on if they are good or evil, or you are and if you are in a relationship with them there are now up to 4 endings for some characters.

Good
Evil
Good and in a relationship
Evil and in a relationship
Good and in a threesome
One Evil and one good in a threesome when you are evil
One evil, one good you are good
Both evil and you good (Hardest one ever to do, you have to talk like a bad ass but pet kittens when they aren't looking)
Both good and you good.

And you get the idea by now.

Then at least two of your allies have secret pasts, if you unlock these it changes all their endings. So there we have another bunch of them.

27 times i completed this game, and i think i got everything. But the thing is i discovered something new on the 24th time. You were always discovering things you missed in this game. Much like Mass Effect where there are entire missions that i didn't find until my third play through.

Anyway, the endings are one of the reasons that i loved Jade Empire, and the one thing Mass Effect sorely needed. a quick bit at the end about each partner you know:

Kaiden
Good: Served on as a marine, eventually got his own ship. Retired with wife/you depending on ending.
Evil: Helped lead the new specters that quickly stomped humanities superiority over the traverse.

Modify if you dated him

Wrex
Good:Went back to his people with his family armor and helped to foster peace among a small band of the Krogan.
Good 2: Unable to return his family's armor he continued his life as a mercenary.
Evil: Proving the worth of the Krogan to the new human empire, wrex's actions led to the Krogan being used by humanity as a race of soldiers.
Dead:...

Tali:
Good: Returned to the Migrant fleet with the data on the Geth, eventually gets the Quarian embassy restored to the citadel and stands as ambassador.
Evil: Returned from to the Migrant fleet with news of what happened to the council and the coming of the reapers. The migrant fleet has not been seen since.

And you get the idea, people like me would have done everything to see every permutation.

But that doesn't change the awesomeness of Mass Effect, still a good game. I even liked the Mako segments if you can believe it.

It just could have been so much better with this single awesome feature.

But it is a fairly new game, and i am late to the party. Someone else has probably talked about Mass Effect recently, this post was about Jade Empire...



To make things more interesting for those who read this insanely long post, put your own predictions for good/evil/relationship endings for some Mass Effect character in the reply section.


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odintal's Destructoid Blog
i can understand where you're coming from but don't agree. with more games planned in the mass effect series leaving those character's stories unfinished leaves room for future storylines.
GuitarAtomik's Destructoid Blog
What Odintal said. There's at least two more games planned (+ a book) so they couldn't really explain the rest of their story since you'll probably be playing the rest of their story.
Seth338's Destructoid Blog
Well that's just me painfully ill-informed. That does explain the lack of closure then.

I hate it when games with multiple endings have sequels though. It makes the events and choices of the previous games pointless.
Redzie's Destructoid Blog
Why cant they re-release this game up-res'ed for the 360 with all the new content for the PC version? It's because Microsoft hates money thats why. Also, Sarcasm.
MechaMonkey's Destructoid Blog
Spoiler warning please? I haven't gotten through Mass Effect yet, so you blindsided me with that stuff.
Seth338's Destructoid Blog
It says "Spoilers" right before i say anything spoilery.

So i did.

Sorry anyway.


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Turner, Seth Turner. Second year psychology major and all around awesome individual. Like morality games and RPG's but throw a decent story at me and i'll shut up as well. Raised on original street fighter and metroid, moved from Sonic to Mario and then from Golden Eye, Starfox and Toshingdon to FFVIII. From then on, well everything.

Don't like Halo. Do like Team Fortress. Only sports game i've played is some olympics game with fish on the Sega Megadrive. Not an FPS fan as a rule of thumb, like Half Life games regardless.

Play as many internet flash games as i play console and PC games.

Screw having a now playing list it gets out of date too fast.
Looking forward to:
Fable 2
GTA IV
Saints Row 2
Penny Arcade Adventures: On the Rain Slick Precipice of Darkness
And probably about other games that grab my eye

Best Games Ever

The Roman Numeral RPG's
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy VI
Breath Of Fire III
Vandal Hearts II

How about a little ULTRAviolence (Anything broadly defined as shooter)
Bioshock
GTA 2
Loaded
Metal Gear Solid
Tekken 3

I am the commander, you do as I SAY (Tactical games)
Command and Conquer
C&C Red Alert 2 (And Yuri's Revenge)
C&C Tiberian Sun (And Firestorm)
C&C Generals (And Zero Hour)
Civilisation 2
Sim City 2000
Hogs Of War
Worms
Age Of Mythology
Age Of Mythology: The Titans (An expansion but stands well as it's own game)
Master of Olympus - Zeus
Master of Atlantis - Poseidon

I can't decide whether you should live or die (Morality games)
Jade Empire
Mass Effect
Fable

The Classics
ESWAT: Cyber Police
Tojam and Earl
Goldeneye

Where the hell do i catagorise you!?(Misc)
The Sims 2
Portal

TOP 4
It was hard to do a top ten so i did the massive list above and weeded out the best, since i like doing those each will have a quote... some are very limited in script though...
Jade Empire
See my blog post on the subject.
Kang: "Next time, I'm placing explosives around them, explosives shaped like bananas. Stops thieves, monkeys, and monkey thieves all in one!"

Gao the lesser:"I have heard better threats from children."
Player: "You've been threatened by children?"

Master Li: "I recall your earliest lessons. You fell from 1000 feet during the walk of death, which, alone, was odd enough at your age, but you made short work of the walk of maiming and the walk of intense discomfort and tore your head clean off. I comforted you, well, your head, saying that you could just walk if off, because, you know, the cut was clean and then you would punch a mountain. In space!"

Age Of Mythology
Great RTS, a quirky series of mythical beasts and heroes at your disposal as well as some all consuming god powers when you want to shake stuff up. Stands out from the others based on how long i spent playing skirmishes, which i think comes close to the two year mark.
Nothing to quote :(

Breath Of Fire III:
Best RPG i have ever played, every character had a quiqe fighting style and personality, there was plenty to discover and maxing yourself out was a relativly easy task. So long as you don't give up from boredom during the desert your fine.
Ballio and Sunder:"No one has seen us in this form and lived to tell about it!" (Imagine as an anime fan this being the first time i heard that line?"
"A D-D-D-Dragon!"

Metal Gear Solid
One of the first and best story driven games i had ever played, great characters, interesting setting and gameplay and the greatest mullet imaginable.
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