Man, that's rough. I could see why you're pissed. There's also an opportunity here, though.
Are your stores far apart or do you serve the same 20ish mile range? If you're far enough apart, it would be incredibly beneficial for both of you to partner and cross-promote each other. It sounds like you're both start-ups and could use the advertising, not to mention being able to refer each other business when someone is looking for something you don't have in stock.
If that's not of interest, you should seek legal advice. I'm in no position to suggest, but maybe start by tracking down both your business licenses to prove who started first and then file a complaint.
Also, hang in there. Your living conditions remind me of Dtoid year 2. Sold my house and my car to make ends meet -- Colette and I lived in a tiny 1 bedroom place where you could hear some guy coughing himself to death through thin walls. Year 3 has been waaaay better, luckily. Things will get better if you stick to it and bust your ass!
Are your stores far apart or do you serve the same 20ish mile range? If you're far enough apart, it would be incredibly beneficial for both of you to partner and cross-promote each other. It sounds like you're both start-ups and could use the advertising, not to mention being able to refer each other business when someone is looking for something you don't have in stock.
If that's not of interest, you should seek legal advice. I'm in no position to suggest, but maybe start by tracking down both your business licenses to prove who started first and then file a complaint.
Also, hang in there. Your living conditions remind me of Dtoid year 2. Sold my house and my car to make ends meet -- Colette and I lived in a tiny 1 bedroom place where you could hear some guy coughing himself to death through thin walls. Year 3 has been waaaay better, luckily. Things will get better if you stick to it and bust your ass!
I love your film list, a few I don't like - only a few - but very nice list.
Kudos as well for opening your own shop, I will have my own business one day too :)
Yeah sympathy vote gets it all the time but it will die down and then it will just be which one is better hopefully. And I'm not so sure about being nicey nice, it's business, smash them down ;)
Kudos as well for opening your own shop, I will have my own business one day too :)
Yeah sympathy vote gets it all the time but it will die down and then it will just be which one is better hopefully. And I'm not so sure about being nicey nice, it's business, smash them down ;)
Cross-promotion would be fine if we weren't interested in promoting ourselves as much as a store AND a name. Additionally, we're fundamentally different from them as a business in that we also offer a LAN center and PC repair, as well as host events and tournaments. It's not impossible to get along with and develop a relationship with competitive businesses, but I don't see cross-promotion happening. Also, we are pretty far apart. Respectively, we're both on opposite borders of our cities' limits.
Legally, we know that there are actions we can take, but we're just as concerned now with the association of our name with the other store, as well as public appearance of us swooping in to "demand" that they change their name so soon after they've gained local attention. We don't care to be the bad guy, in perception or practice. We just want to look out for ourselves.
Legally, we know that there are actions we can take, but we're just as concerned now with the association of our name with the other store, as well as public appearance of us swooping in to "demand" that they change their name so soon after they've gained local attention. We don't care to be the bad guy, in perception or practice. We just want to look out for ourselves.
So did you ever actually contact this guy about the name thing or have you not got around to it yet? I'd start there and see if he's willing to be reasonable and change the name on his own. If he's an asshat about it then by all means take the legal route, but maybe he'll be open to the idea of making a slight change (GAME ON to Game One) or something equally ridiculous and then everyone is happy.
I see what your saying but realistically how much bad publicity do you think this will get you? Obviously I don't know what like your city is in terms of local press nor the popularity of them with your target customer but I'm struggling with the possibility that it would drive your customers away if it was covered at all.
First things first, you have to talk to they guy as soon as, maybe it wouldn't even need to go as far as legal. But if it does then the sooner the better or you would be as well as changing your name if their popularity continues to grow. At the end of the day your a business and although I was joking when I said smash them down, you have to stand up for yourself and protect your own interests.
First things first, you have to talk to they guy as soon as, maybe it wouldn't even need to go as far as legal. But if it does then the sooner the better or you would be as well as changing your name if their popularity continues to grow. At the end of the day your a business and although I was joking when I said smash them down, you have to stand up for yourself and protect your own interests.
We haven't yet contacted him. We only learned about his business on Saturday and, between the three of us, it is INCREDIBLY difficult to find the time to get out "in the world". As mentioned, we thought we'd have a little time to think about the situation, investigate, and respond appropriately. At this point, it's clear that we can't really waste any time.
Oh, I hardly think the publicity is "bad". It's just that we've spent a lot of time and effort developing ourselves as a business and a name and I kinda' resent the hell out of the fact that they were handed a story based on nothing having to do with the merits of the business.
But I don't have anything against them personally, nor do I think they intended to slight us or anybody else by simply opening a store. The last thing I want to do is "steal" their attention for ourselves. We wanted to create our own name, not hijack the sympathy attention of another business.
Besides, we LIKE local, independent business.
But I don't have anything against them personally, nor do I think they intended to slight us or anybody else by simply opening a store. The last thing I want to do is "steal" their attention for ourselves. We wanted to create our own name, not hijack the sympathy attention of another business.
Besides, we LIKE local, independent business.
Nice to talk about another side of the industry for a bit.
I understand about liking the local business, I helped my mate when he was starting up a skate shop and he found it very beneficial running promo's through them and we made some good pretty mates too.
But...he didn't have anybody in the same industry nearby with the same name. Hopefully it will all end up amicable and an agreement can be reached without using the bastards that are solicitors. It will depend on the owner of the other shop though, it's all very well saying you like local business but the guy could be a total dick. As you said, you really can't waste any time in talking to him. Fuck I don't know what time it is there but arrange a meeting now!
As for the publicity sometimes in business it's about luck, not for him personally of course, I don't mean to be macabre. You can't dwell on how he got a story from non-business related means, it happened. To my mind it wouldn't be 'stealing' their attention it would be protecting your name.
Course it's up to you, I'm just some random bloke sitting at his computer giving you an opinion!
Hope it works out well for you
I understand about liking the local business, I helped my mate when he was starting up a skate shop and he found it very beneficial running promo's through them and we made some good pretty mates too.
But...he didn't have anybody in the same industry nearby with the same name. Hopefully it will all end up amicable and an agreement can be reached without using the bastards that are solicitors. It will depend on the owner of the other shop though, it's all very well saying you like local business but the guy could be a total dick. As you said, you really can't waste any time in talking to him. Fuck I don't know what time it is there but arrange a meeting now!
As for the publicity sometimes in business it's about luck, not for him personally of course, I don't mean to be macabre. You can't dwell on how he got a story from non-business related means, it happened. To my mind it wouldn't be 'stealing' their attention it would be protecting your name.
Course it's up to you, I'm just some random bloke sitting at his computer giving you an opinion!
Hope it works out well for you
That is quite a pickle you got yourself into. But there is really nothing anyone can tell you until you talk to the guy. If anything, hope that the guy is a douche because it is hard to screw over good people if that's what it comes down to ;)
If the guy is a total dick and doesn't want to work with us, then we'll just have to crush him with our awesomeness.
Re: Publicity - Yeah, I think you're right. I mean, I AM going to dwell on this for a while, but I'm not going to let it affect how I handle the situation.
Re: Publicity - Yeah, I think you're right. I mean, I AM going to dwell on this for a while, but I'm not going to let it affect how I handle the situation.
Lol and quite right too, allowing blog users to make/influence business decisions would be like one of that fucked up reality show ideas :)
Oh god they are probably making it now!
Oh god they are probably making it now!
@Niero
"Colette and I lived in a tiny 1 bedroom place where you could hear some guy coughing himself to death through thin walls."
He must have been smoking a lot of weed or something. Or just dying I suppose.
"Colette and I lived in a tiny 1 bedroom place where you could hear some guy coughing himself to death through thin walls."
He must have been smoking a lot of weed or something. Or just dying I suppose.
@Sentry
Sorry to hear that you are in the middle of an identity crisis with Game On... Best of luck to working things out between the two of you.
Sorry to hear that you are in the middle of an identity crisis with Game On... Best of luck to working things out between the two of you.
Niero - At this point, it most definitely seems like we'll be befriending the other store and helping one another out as much as possible. He (Elijah) has been very reasonable thus far, and we're even considering helping him to foot some of the bill in his name change.
I'm thrilled that it didn't have to come to anything more than that.
As for your old arrangement, I love hearing about stuff like that! Yes, indeed it's hard, but I have EVERY intention of sticking it out. We built this situation from the ground up and I committed myself to it. To complain or back out now simply because it's tough to go so long without a wage, or because my ego is somewhat bruised due to the dynamics of the relationship, would be grossly irresponsible. This store WILL succeed, and I have even loftier, far more unreasonable plans for the future. Believe you me, I am busting my ass.
Honestly, I kinda' envy you your history, but also find it promising. Dtoid has most certainly arrived and I am in LOVE with this community. So much so that I really hope to start writing more and better that I might feel more a part of it.
Thank you for looking into this. It means a great deal to me.
(Also, to EVERYBODY, I told Brian and Anna of your support and your advice, and we are all extremely grateful for it. Thank you kindly.)
I'm thrilled that it didn't have to come to anything more than that.
As for your old arrangement, I love hearing about stuff like that! Yes, indeed it's hard, but I have EVERY intention of sticking it out. We built this situation from the ground up and I committed myself to it. To complain or back out now simply because it's tough to go so long without a wage, or because my ego is somewhat bruised due to the dynamics of the relationship, would be grossly irresponsible. This store WILL succeed, and I have even loftier, far more unreasonable plans for the future. Believe you me, I am busting my ass.
Honestly, I kinda' envy you your history, but also find it promising. Dtoid has most certainly arrived and I am in LOVE with this community. So much so that I really hope to start writing more and better that I might feel more a part of it.
Thank you for looking into this. It means a great deal to me.
(Also, to EVERYBODY, I told Brian and Anna of your support and your advice, and we are all extremely grateful for it. Thank you kindly.)
That's really unfortunate and sounds TOO coincidental.
I'd take Niero's advice, he said what I was going to :) saves me the effort :)
I'd take Niero's advice, he said what I was going to :) saves me the effort :)
Zippy - I'm not sure whether or not you would still maintain that it seems "TOO coincidental" but I never thought that the similarity was intentional and, having spoken to the guy, I'm absolutely certain he didn't mean to "infringe" in any way.
@ Sentry glad you guys are likely gonna work something out. I figured he'd be reasonable about it since he probably wants to make a name for his business just as much as you do for yours and not the same name.
@ Zippyduda, I can't imagine the guy would do it on purpose. What could he hope to gain by using the same name? I know I would never open a store with the same name as another close by, especially not a local place that wasn't much more established then I was.
@ Zippyduda, I can't imagine the guy would do it on purpose. What could he hope to gain by using the same name? I know I would never open a store with the same name as another close by, especially not a local place that wasn't much more established then I was.
I gotta say, if I were gonna brainstorm names for a gaming store, Game On would probably come up eventually, so I wouldn't think the similarities were intentional either. I'm glad it looks like things will be resolved reasonably though.

surf dtoid with 

Rising (10+)
People you follow

send message
follow
followers















